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Draft of Trump's Executive Order declaring an 'election emergency' has become public via Democracy Docket

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Obviously this is only a draft, but it has red flags everywhere.

5 things to know as Trump's 'national emergency' plan emerges to seize control of voting

The liberal media platform Democracy Docket has obtained the 17-page draft emergency executive order that President Donald Trump's allies have presented to him to seize control of voting infrastructure and election policies, under the guise of a national emergency.

The order, first reported on Thursday, uses as justification for the seizure a claim that China interfered in the 2020 presidential election.

1. Voting machines will be banned — even those that print a paper ballot.
2. Ballot drop boxes for mail-in voters will be prohibited.
3. Voters will be required to notarize mail-in ballots before turning them in.
4. Everyone currently registered to vote will have to register again for the 2026 elections.
5. The executive order claims to supersede virtually every major federal law on voting rights.
 

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The Supreme Court has already established that Trump's self-named "emergencies" are invalid, and that his executive actions based on "emergencies" are unconstitutional.

Given that has primary focus is his own self-interest, perhaps it would be more likely to call them "memergencies." Designed to protect him--to the detriment of the country.
 
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Obviously this is only a draft, but it has red flags everywhere.

5 things to know as Trump's 'national emergency' plan emerges to seize control of voting

The liberal media platform Democracy Docket has obtained the 17-page draft emergency executive order that President Donald Trump's allies have presented to him to seize control of voting infrastructure and election policies, under the guise of a national emergency.

The order, first reported on Thursday, uses as justification for the seizure a claim that China interfered in the 2020 presidential election.

1. Voting machines will be banned — even those that print a paper ballot.
2. Ballot drop boxes for mail-in voters will be prohibited.
3. Voters will be required to notarize mail-in ballots before turning them in.
4. Everyone currently registered to vote will have to register again for the 2026 elections.
5. The executive order claims to supersede virtually every major federal law on voting rights.
The president has abosolutely *ZERO* of the powers to require those items. He's not the boss of the states. Congress has not given him these powers. And I'm not sure if even Congress could force all of these by statute.
 
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Interesting.

A check of Democracy Docket turns up that it was founded by Marc Ellis. And who is Marc Ellis? A Democratic election and voting rights attorney. That in itself doesn't mean anything. That Democracy Docket supports "reformed" signature matching on mail-in ballots and community ballot collection. The latter sounds a lot like ballot drop boxes. Really, they seem to support mail-in ballots. Here I am biased because absentee ballots was what a former classmate was monkeying with and which got him convicted of election fraud. Supposedly they have a high factual reliability.

Now they are the source of a proposed executive order dated April 15, 2025. That begs the question of how they got their hands on it. Leaks from a new administration? Before any new staff is disgruntled? Ehh... my skept-o-meter is twitching.

As Hans pointed out, the POTUS has no authority over state elections. Really, nothing in the US Constitution states that there must be a Federal election for electors. States could appoint them, as was done in the very first elections. Congress can either accept or reject submitted votes by state electors. And what's extra fun is that something called the Electoral Count Act of 2022 limits the reasons congress can refuse to accept the elector's votes.

Added together, I give the supposed proposed EO low confidence.
 
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Your concern is noted.
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Now attack with 400D6 with 200 rending against 300 2 up saves and do 2 wounds.
2 wounds total? Your dice luck is better than mine.
 
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A check of Democracy Docket turns up that it was founded by Marc Ellis. And who is Marc Ellis? A Democratic election and voting rights attorney.
So? The last time I looked at it, it was nothing more than the index of election legal cases Ellis and his firm were involved with. I haven't looked since the last election litigation season (20240.
 
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The president has abosolutely *ZERO* of the powers to require those items. He's not the boss of the states. Congress has not given him these powers. And I'm not sure if even Congress could force all of these by statute.
Wartime presidents have superpowers, supposedly. It would have gone better had the administration got them to attack us first - this "preemptive strike" business was shady with regards to Iraq. Will anybody buy it this time around?
 
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this "preemptive strike" business was shady with regards to Iraq. Will anybody buy it this time around?
They have dispensed with wasting time on trying to see it as they have the power to do what they like public support or no.
 
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Wartime presidents have superpowers, supposedly. It would have gone better had the administration got them to attack us first - this "preemptive strike" business was shady with regards to Iraq. Will anybody buy it this time around?
No. Shady was the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. And as one Abraham Lincoln discovered, presidential powers in wartime are a bit more limited than people think.
 
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Yes.
Shady was the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
Yes, that was also shady. That was also a bit before I was aware of such things while the Iraq preemptive strike was well within my time and memory.
And as one Abraham Lincoln discovered, presidential powers in wartime are a bit more limited than people think.
Hopefully this will be so.
 
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Yes, that was also shady. That was also a bit before I was aware of such things while the Iraq preemptive strike was well within my time and memory.
Iraq wasn’t preemptive. Saddam kicked things off by invading Kuwait, and after that all shook out, started to go back on the agreement that ended it. Clinton tried to drum up support based on the violations, and there was a mix of “never again” and, from the GOP side, “wag the dog” accusations. Then came 9/11 and Saddam wasn’t bright enough to pretend to side with the US on this one and tried to play tough. Public opinion changed, there was claims of WMD, and the rest is history.

I think it was the author Niven who once said you don’t stand beside someone throwing things at an armed man. Had Saddam called the 9/11 attacks reprehensible and made the proper noises, I doubt we would have gone back in. Instead, he sided with those who did us harm and seemed to have WMD he could give them so they could do more harm, and Bush was able to get support that Clinton couldn’t.

Then we went back in and there didn’t seem to be WMD to be found. Except now and then troops would come across things like Mustard gas and we were told “These aren’t the WMD you’re looking for.” Seriously. We’d be told they were left-overs from Saddam’s action against the Kurds. And some Coalition troops seem to have been exposed to something noxious. Maybe it was more left-overs or maybe something else.
 
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...more details...and the man behind the alleged draft order:

“Under the Constitution, it’s the legislatures and states that really control how a state conducts its elections, and the president doesn’t have any power to do that,” said Peter Ticktin, a Florida lawyer who is advocating for the draft executive order. Ticktin attended the New York Military Academy with Trump and was part of his legal team that filed an unsuccessful 2022 lawsuit accusing Democrats of conspiring to damage him with allegations that his 2016 campaign colluded with Russia.

“But here we have a situation where the president is aware that there are foreign interests that are interfering in our election processes,” Ticktin went on. “That causes a national emergency where the president has to be able to deal with it.”

The emergency would empower the president to ban mail ballots and voting machines as the vectors of foreign interference, Ticktin argued.

 
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Meh.
Even if an Executive Order is clearly afoul of Constitutional constraints upon the powers under Article 2, the EO can be consulted as if a “wish list” to the Congress (which does have the power under Article 1 to do what the President wishes), you know, like it’s the only way he can “communicate” his wishes.

It’s a convoluted way to try to get Congress to do its job, but maybe that’s necessary now?
 
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Obviously this is only a draft, but it has red flags everywhere.

5 things to know as Trump's 'national emergency' plan emerges to seize control of voting

The liberal media platform Democracy Docket has obtained the 17-page draft emergency executive order that President Donald Trump's allies have presented to him to seize control of voting infrastructure and election policies, under the guise of a national emergency.

The order, first reported on Thursday, uses as justification for the seizure a claim that China interfered in the 2020 presidential election.

1. Voting machines will be banned — even those that print a paper ballot.
2. Ballot drop boxes for mail-in voters will be prohibited.
3. Voters will be required to notarize mail-in ballots before turning them in.
4. Everyone currently registered to vote will have to register again for the 2026 elections.
5. The executive order claims to supersede virtually every major federal law on voting rights.
I didnt want to make a new thread for this, but I thought you'd like this. There is a Trump tracker for all the actions he takes.


Video with general jnfo:

 
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