Trump Proposes Annual Federal Retirement Contribution of Up to $1,000 — Which Workers Stand to Gain

Tropical Wilds · 2026-02-27T06:09:42-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
So do you guys have some sort of vested interest in making your political opponents bitter and more resistant to ideas that the populist-left has advocated for, for decades?

When some folks from across the aisle have economic populist initiatives pitched to them in way that they'll actually be receptive to it, by all means, call them hypocrites and attach the toxic "socialism" word to it so they'll go back to hating the idea. Brilliant strategizing! After all, the most important thing is being able to tell them "I told you so", and try to make them bend the knee to the people they find insufferable for non-economic reasons. That'll work great in 2028.

Show me where I attached socialism to anything. And show me where I said “I told you so” or made anybody “bend the knee.” Link it.

ThatRobGuy said:
Reminiscent to when Trump recently backed off of the threats against Iran, and a bunch of left wingers were quick to pounce with the "TACO Trump" jabs... it's like "what? do you want to goad people into supporting a war with Iran just to spite you??"

Show me where I did that. Where have I made statements about Iran and said TACO Trump? Cite it.

Aryeh Jay · 2026-02-27T06:53:25-0600

Tropical Wilds said:
Show me where I attached socialism to anything. And show me where I said “I told you so” or made anybody “bend the knee.” Link it.

Show me where I did that. Where have I made statements about Iran and said TACO Trump? Cite it.

Well clearly you used the Obama Time Machine and went back in time to edit your post so you could gloat and make us look crazy. Such irresponsible manipulation of the space time continuum may be catastrophic.

ThatRobGuy · 2026-02-27T07:42:09-0600

Tropical Wilds said:
Show me where I attached socialism to anything. And show me where I said “I told you so” or made anybody “bend the knee.” Link it.

Show me where I did that. Where have I made statements about Iran and said TACO Trump? Cite it.

If you'll notice, I was quoting two posts there, one from you and one from another user

However, both were mocking in nature and attempting to label the opposition as hypocrites.

As to my other statement you were referring to, it stated:
Reminiscent to when Trump recently backed off of the threats against Iran, and a bunch of left wingers were quick to pounce with the "TACO Trump" jabs... it's like "what? do you want to goad people into supporting a war with Iran just to spite you??"

The "show me where I personally said that" routine is a something of a cheap debate trick that's used as a means to dismiss the entire argument.

If we were having a debate about gun control, and you accurately identified something said by a lot of gun owners as problematic rhetoric, and I ignored the meat of your post and said "Show me where I said...", that would be accurately identified as dodging.

ThatRobGuy · 2026-02-27T07:43:18-0600

Desk trauma said:
That’s going to make it very difficult to vote against me.

By vote against you, I was clearly referring to them voting for the team opposite yours.

Desk trauma · 2026-02-27T08:10:26-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
By vote against you, I was clearly referring to them voting for the team opposite yours.

Oh no! Don’t care.

ThatRobGuy · 2026-02-27T08:31:51-0600

Desk trauma said:
Oh no! Don’t care.

It's pretty clear that a lot of people don't care...hence the reason why Democrats lost in 2024. The "the other 50% of the country is irrelevant we needn't concern ourselves with their opinion" approach hasn't been a great strategy.

As bitter of a pill as it is for someone people to swallow, it's a fairly evenly split country, neither political faction has the type of numbers where they can put up a slam dunk victory and do all the things they want to do. So it's probably in the best public interest for people, when there is agreement on an issue or two, not to sabotage it.

Desk trauma · 2026-02-27T10:31:03-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
It's pretty clear that a lot of people don't care...hence the reason why Democrats lost in 2024. The "the other 50% of the country is irrelevant we needn't concern ourselves with their opinion" approach hasn't been a great strategy.

As bitter of a pill as it is for someone people to swallow, it's a fairly evenly split country, neither political faction has the type of numbers where they can put up a slam dunk victory and do all the things they want to do. So it's probably in the best public interest for people, when there is agreement on an issue or two, not to sabotage it.

Yeah, if they get the boots licked shiny enough it’ll be ok!

DaisyDay · 2026-02-27T10:31:47-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
It's pretty clear that a lot of people don't care...hence the reason why Democrats lost in 2024. The "the other 50% of the country is irrelevant we needn't concern ourselves with their opinion" approach hasn't been a great strategy.

As bitter of a pill as it is for someone people to swallow, it's a fairly evenly split country, neither political faction has the type of numbers where they can put up a slam dunk victory and do all the things they want to do. So it's probably in the best public interest for people, when there is agreement on an issue or two, not to sabotage it.

@Desk trauma has listed the same party affiliation as you so berating the Democratic Party as a threat to him seems a bit blind.

Tropical Wilds · 2026-02-27T11:05:22-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
Well clearly you used the Obama Time Machine and went back in time to edit your post so you could gloat and make us look crazy. Such irresponsible manipulation of the space time continuum may be catastrophic.

Thanks Obama.

Tropical Wilds · 2026-02-27T11:21:58-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
If you'll notice, I was quoting two posts there, one from you and one from another user

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However, both were mocking in nature and attempting to label the opposition as hypocrites.

Because they are. Yet you haven’t shown where where I attached socialism to anything or where I said “I told you so” or made anybody “bend the knee.”

ThatRobGuy said:
As to my other statement you were referring to, it stated:
Reminiscent to when Trump recently backed off of the threats against Iran, and a bunch of left wingers were quick to pounce with the "TACO Trump" jabs... it's like "what? do you want to goad people into supporting a war with Iran just to spite you??"

Where did I say that?

ThatRobGuy said:
The "show me where I personally said that" routine is a something of a cheap debate trick that's used as a means to dismiss the entire argument.

No. It’s a way to force you to be accountable for claims you’re making up about people and what they say. It’s about forcing you to act with intellectual integrity by admitting I said what you claimed. A way to drag to the surface that and highlight you’re arguing with yourself using narratives you made up for others in order for you to feel like you’re honestly debating.

ThatRobGuy said:
If we were having a debate about gun control, and you accurately identified something said by a lot of gun owners as problematic rhetoric, and I ignored the meat of your post and said "Show me where I said...", that would be accurately identified as dodging.

This is just word salad. If we were debating guns and you called me out for it, there is what I said, right there, ready for me to defend as my viewpoint.

You have completely made up a viewpoint, attributed it to me, and then say proving yourself isn’t necessarily. It’s intellectually disingenuous, and it shows you’re not somebody who can argue a point, but somebody who manufactures viewpoints, pins them on the people you disagree with, and pats yourself on the back for being so intellectual.

Say it aint so · 2026-02-27T13:04:27-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
So do you guys have some sort of vested interest in making your political opponents bitter and more resistant to ideas that the populist-left has advocated for, for decades?

When some folks from across the aisle have economic populist initiatives pitched to them in way that they'll actually be receptive to it, by all means, call them hypocrites and attach the toxic "socialism" word to it so they'll go back to hating the idea. Brilliant strategizing! After all, the most important thing is being able to tell them "I told you so", and try to make them bend the knee to the people they find insufferable for non-economic reasons. That'll work great in 2028.

Reminiscent to when Trump recently backed off of the threats against Iran, and a bunch of left wingers were quick to pounce with the "TACO Trump" jabs... it's like "what? do you want to goad people into supporting a war with Iran just to spite you??"

It just isn't worth it. Trump is just all over the map and at times can't even remember the things he said. He literally just says things.

ThatRobGuy · 2026-02-27T15:29:16-0600

DaisyDay said:
@Desk trauma has listed the same party affiliation as you so berating the Democratic Party as a threat to him seems a bit blind.

Yeah, so does Bernie Sanders, but we all know which party he caucuses with lol

ThatRobGuy · 2026-02-27T15:56:54-0600

Tropical Wilds said:
You have completely made up a viewpoint, attributed it to me, and then say proving yourself isn’t necessarily. It’s intellectually disingenuous, and it shows you’re not somebody who can argue a point, but somebody who manufactures viewpoints, pins them on the people you disagree with, and pats yourself on the back for being so intellectual.

The only thing I said about your post directly was that it was mocking in terms of tone. (and it was)

Your post said, and I quote:
"Something something handouts something something bootstraps something something not responsible for poor financial choices of the masses…"

...you were mocking what a stereotypical conservative may have said in the past in response to Democrats pitching ideas for social safety nets, were you not?

The socialism comment was directed at the other user (who did invoke that), and the TACO Trump stuff I noted was something that a bunch of people on the left have said, which they have, the slang has been used enough (and was common on signs at "No Kings" protests, that it actually got its own wiki page

Trump Always Chickens Out - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

DaisyDay · 2026-02-27T16:13:13-0600

Atta boy, Donald! Good boy!

What are the details to this proposal?

Desk trauma · 2026-02-27T17:29:33-0600

DaisyDay said:
Atta boy, Donald! Good boy!

What are the details to this proposal?

Two weeks.

NxNW · 2026-02-27T18:32:49-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
It's pretty clear that a lot of people don't care...hence the reason why Democrats lost in 2024.

The Dems lost in 2024 because Biden withdrew so late in the process, in conjunction with the attempt on Trump's life, apparently by a Trump supporter, which helped boost Trump's numbers.

ThatRobGuy · 2026-02-27T19:19:56-0600

NxNW said:
The Dems lost in 2024 because Biden withdrew so late in the process, in conjunction with the attempt on Trump's life, apparently by a Trump supporter, which helped boost Trump's numbers.

If his policies were really the existential threat to humanity that they get portrayed as, I would have expected a better voter turnout.

The only thing that would have stopped them would be if they were so irritated with progressives (and not wanting to be associated that crowd) that they stayed home out of spite.

64.1% turnout isn't "the sky is falling types of numbers", in fact, it pretty lackluster considering how overwhelmingly easy some states made it to vote.

The following are states that made it incredibly easy to register, and had universal mail-in ballots (postage paid)

California:

Oregon:

Vermont:

3 quite blue states...

That's basically 30% saying "This is a serious threat, but not serious enough to for me to spend 3 seconds checking a box on a form and sticking it back in the mailbox with the flag up"

So I don't think my "they don't care" comment is off base.

If I thought preventing fascism incarnate was at stake, I'd be sending reminders on every device and calendar I had to make sure not to forget to vote.

Ellesmere · 2026-02-28T03:28:00-0600

Valletta said:
"If those details are handled carefully, experts suggest Trump’s proposal could be a genuine game changer for working-class Americans who have never had a real shot at building retirement wealth."

Trump Proposes Annual Federal Retirement Contribution of Up to $1,000 — Which Workers Stand to Gain | Liz Peek

Trump proposes federal retirement match up to $1,000/year for 56M workers without employer plans. Learn how low-income workers could benefit.

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I am glad to see Trump focusing on those with lesser incomes. No tax on tips and the senior tax credit go a long ways toward helping lower income Americans. This too addresses a major problem for those who have little or no retirement benefits beyond Social Security.

1) The bottom 50& of wage earners in America have no retirement savings!

2) With the defunding of Obamacare by Republicans, the Trump Administration has yet to express any interest as to when it intends to introduce an affordable alternative

3) The net result is that a large segment of the American society can't afford to retire and has now been stripped of its ability to access affordable healthcare!

4) All is not well in "THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF TRUMP" when the President's current public approval % has descended to the mid 30's - particularly during an election year

5) This President may enjoy the benefit of not having his name on the ballot, but that luxury doesn't extend to those names of 435 Republican candidates in the House and another 33 in the Senate which serves as a proxy for the electorate when it comes to registering their discontent with the Trump Administration's failure to address "AFFORDABILITY!"

6) The prospect of $1000 is nothing more than a "gimmick," a short term cynical "bribe" designed to solicit the vote from those bottom 50% of Americans who can neither afford to retire nor pay the current dramatic increases in their healthcare insurance premiums - who have been reduced to a desperate search for their next dollar to pay for food and rent!

7) For those millions of Americans currently living on this "financial treadmill," $1000 would appear to serve as an answer to prayer, providing a temporary respite before, once again, being forced, to face the inevitable - a bleak economic future!

Nithavela · 2026-02-28T05:32:25-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
If his policies were really the existential threat to humanity that they get portrayed as, I would have expected a better voter turnout.

The only thing that would have stopped them would be if they were so irritated with progressives (and not wanting to be associated that crowd) that they stayed home out of spite.

View attachment 377047

64.1% turnout isn't "the sky is falling types of numbers", in fact, it pretty lackluster considering how overwhelmingly easy some states made it to vote.

The following are states that made it incredibly easy to register, and had universal mail-in ballots (postage paid)

California:
View attachment 377048

Oregon:
View attachment 377049

Vermont:
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3 quite blue states...

That's basically 30% saying "This is a serious threat, but not serious enough to for me to spend 3 seconds checking a box on a form and sticking it back in the mailbox with the flag up"

So I don't think my "they don't care" comment is off base.

If I thought preventing fascism incarnate was at stake, I'd be sending reminders on every device and calendar I had to make sure not to forget to vote.

4 years is plenty of time for people with the attention span of the average US american to forget how Trump really was.

Ellesmere said:
1) The bottom 50& of wage earners in America have no retirement savings!

2) With the defunding of Obamacare by Republicans, the Trump Administration has yet to express any interest as to when it intends to introduce an affordable alternative

3) The net result is that a large segment of the American society can't afford to retire and has now been stripped of its ability to access affordable healthcare!

4) All is not well in "THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF TRUMP" when the President's current public approval % has descended to the mid 30's - particularly during an election year

5) This President may enjoy the benefit of not having his name on the ballot, but that luxury doesn't extend to those names of 435 Republican candidates in the House and another 33 in the Senate which serves as a proxy for the electorate when it comes to registering their discontent with the Trump Administration's failure to address "AFFORDABILITY!"

6) The prospect of $1000 is nothing more than a "gimmick," a short term cynical "bribe" designed to solicit the vote from those bottom 50% of Americans who can neither afford to retire nor pay the current dramatic increases in their healthcare insurance premiums - who have been reduced to a desperate search for their next dollar to pay for food and rent!

7) For those millions of Americans currently living on this "financial treadmill," $1000 would appear to serve as an answer to prayer, providing a temporary respite before, once again, being forced, to face the inevitable - a bleak economic future!

As this point, 1000 dollars barely cover groceries for two months.

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