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No, a CME is the only thing that will literally fulfil all the Prophesies about the Day of the Lords fiery wrath.
Then, how can your solar event scenario happen in the 8 year window in your thinking that Jesus will return by 2034 ?

2034 - 7 years for Daniel 9:27, Ezekiel 39:9 = 2027.

How can your solar event scenario fit between now (2026) and end of 2027 ?
 
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How can your solar event scenario fit between now (2026) and end of 2027 ?
The Lord will destroy His enemies in the Holy Land and change the world by the means of a massive explosion on the sun. That is what the Prophets say will happen. He will instigate it at the moment of attack by Iran to nuke Israel. Could be anytime now!

As for when Jesus will Return, my guess is just a guess. At least we do agree that Jesus will Return! With His angel army.
 
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As for when Jesus will Return, my guess is just a guess. At least we do agree that Jesus will Return! With His angel army.
Yes, with His angels. But His angels are not His Bride army of Revelation 19:14, which was in heaven. Revelation 19:7-8 is His bride, the resurrected/raptured saints. Can't get by that one, can you ?


7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

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Let's see what the 1989 REB translation says...

7 Let us be glad and rejoice and give glory to him; for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his wife has prepared herself.
8 To her it has been granted to be clothed in fine linen, bright and pure; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.

14 And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses

....same thing, keras. Hard, no impossible, for you to prove resurrection/rapture to heaven is not going to take place.
 
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....same thing, keras. Hard, no impossible, for you to prove resurrection/rapture to heaven is not going to take place.
Total pretentious nonsense.
Heaven is never mentioned in Rev 19:7-8. You falsely assume heaven as the place for the Marriage feast.
No one goes to heaven, Jesus said so 6 times. Fine white linen is no proof for the incredible idea of humans in heaven and returning with Jesus.
 
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Heaven is never mentioned in Rev 19:7-8. You falsely assume heaven as the place for the Marriage feast.
No one goes to heaven, Jesus said so 6 times. Fine white linen is no proof for the incredible idea of humans in heaven and returning with Jesus.
The armies clothed in fine white linen come from heaven - therefore, have to have been in heaven.

Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
 
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Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean
the armies which were in heaven....
They will be Spiritual beings;- angels, who are heavenly beings. Matthew 16:27 confirms it.

Give up the error of the rapture, it is just a Satanic deception and may cause many to lose their Salvation.
 
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the armies which were in heaven....
They will be Spiritual beings;- angels, who are heavenly beings. Matthew 16:27 confirms it.
No, the armies are clothed in white fine linen, describing what the Bride of Christ was wearing a few verses earlier in Revelation 19:7-8.

keras, are you saying that the angels are the Bride of Christ ?
 
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No, the armies are clothed in white fine linen, describing what the Bride of Christ was wearing a few verses earlier in Revelation 19:7-8.

keras, are you saying that the angels are are the Bride of Christ ?
Why don't you put a white robe over a donkey and call it a saint?
Some common sense and less jumping to conclusions, would be good.

The truth is: There will be no humans returning with Jesus and no one is raptured to heaven Any other theory is wrong.
 
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The Wrath of God will come from the sky: -
Romans 1:18-20 Divine Retribution will be seen by all, falling from heaven on all the impiety and wickedness of men and women who deny the truth. 1 Samuel 2:10
For all that can be known about God lies plain before their eyes. His invisible power and divine nature are knowable to any reasonable mind, so all are without excuse and their conduct is indefensible. Hebrews 11:6

Romans 1:21-32 These ungodly people know that there must be a Creator, but they refuse to acknowledge or give thanks to Him. So now, their thinking has become futile and their misguided minds are plunged into darkness. They claim to be wise, but they have just made fools of themselves. Psalms 14:1-3
Therefore God has given them over to all kinds of perversions and idolatries, while actually knowing God’s righteous decree that those who behave like this deserve to die, but they continue in their depravity and approve of the same conduct in others. Job 22:12-13

Romans 2:5-11 God’s kindness and patience is allowing us time to come to repentance, but if people refuse His gift of salvation, then on the Day of Retribution, all will be justly judged according to their deeds. His wrath awaits those who are governed by selfish ambition, who refuse obedience to the truth and who take evil for their guide. Isaiah 2:12, Isaiah 29:19-21, Isaiah 65:11-12

To both the Israelites and Gentiles who pursue glory, honour and immortality by living a righteous life, God will reward them with eternal life. Hosea 2:19 God has no favourites.


2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 It is just that God should pay back those godless peoples and give the righteous relief. This will happen when [the power of] the Lord Jesus is seen in the sky in a blazing fire, punishment will fall upon all who do not obey the gospel and they will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, separated from His presence. Isaiah 59:18
On that great Day, Jesus will come and reveal His glory amongst all believers in Him. Only revealed to His believers. Jeremiah 31:2-3, Revelation 14:1

Hebrews 10:26-27 For those who deliberately persist in sin while knowing the truth, there remains only the terrifying expectation of God’s judgement, of a fierce fire that will consume His enemies. Habakkuk 3:12, Malachi 4:1

2 Peter 3:7 & 10 On that Day, the Lord will come as a thief, the sky will disappear with a great roar and the earth will be devastated by fire. Zephaniah 3:8, Isaiah 34:2-4, Isaiah 66:15-17, Revelation 6:14, Jeremiah 30:23-24
Reference: REB. Some verses abridged and paraphrased.

None of these Bible quotes fit with or refer to the Return of Jesus in His glory, seen by all mankind, at the commencement of His Millennium reign. Revelation 19:11

It is an event before that, where the Lord makes ‘fire fall from heaven’, His great Day of Retribution against His enemies’. It is the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the next prophesied event that we can expect. It is a terrible punishment by fire, that will punish the ungodly, a massive explosion of the suns surface, which will firstly devastate the Middle East, but also dramatically affect the whole world. Psalms 83, Micah 4:1
 
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Stop dreaming and speculating and stick with what the Bible actually says.

You mean like claiming Isaiah 13 is about your precious coronal mass ejection when in fact the passage mentions spears and an ancient kingdom being the enemy.

You mean like combing through genealogies to come up with January this year being the AOD in Israel? Except there's no temple?

I seriously don't know where you put the self-knowledge of all your many failed predictions so you can continue posting these myths here again and again
 
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Why don't you put a white robe over a donkey and call it a saint?
Why don't you put an astronomical event over an ancient Middle Eastern battle and call it a CME?
 
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And 2 Peter 3:12 says ;-we should pray to hasten it on.
I do that, every time I recite the Lords Prayer.......Thy Kingdom come.....
You are praying for a Nicholas Cage B-Grade Sci-Fi.

I'm praying for the Lord himself to return on Judgement Day to raise the dead, save his people, judge the living and the dead, and usher in the NHNE. It all happens together.

That's why in Revelation 6 the world leaders cry out for the mountains to fall on them, as they cannot stand the horror of meeting the God Man Jesus the King unprepared!

They do NOT cry out, "Oh my Nicholas Cage! What is the SUN doing!?"

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Habakkuk 1:5 Look around you among the nations, see there a sight that will utterly astound you, you will not believe it when you are told of what is being done in your days.

Habakkuk 1:6-11 goes on to say how the Babylonians were appointed to execute judgement against the House of Judah, but the preceding verses in Habakkuk 1:1-4 are a general indictment onto peoples and nations whose ‘laws are ineffective and where justice is overruled’. Therefore this threat of action by the Lord applies to our times, as well.

Acts 13:40-41 Beware, then lest you bring down upon yourselves the doom proclaimed by the prophets. Look, you who fail to grasp the truth, be surprised and perish. I am doing a work in your days, something that you will not believe, even though it has been pointed out to you.

Pauls quote of Habakkuk 1:1-8, the parallel passage from the New Testament, has nothing to do with Jesus, His message of Salvation is not ‘doom’.
It applies to the end times: ‘your days’, not his days, but our days.

The ‘Doom proclaimed by the prophets’, will be the great and terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath. All the prophets and Jesus make it clear that this ‘Day of doom’, is the next prophesied event that we can expect to happen. Jesus quoted the first and half of the second verse of Isaiah 61:1-2, at the commencement of His ministry. The worldwide Day of vengeance of our God’, is the next prophesied event, still not yet happened. It will be the Sixth Seal; a worldwide disaster of similar magnitude as what happened in the days of Noah, which commences all the prophesied end times events, leading up to the glorious Return of Jesus.

More than 100 prophecies throughout the Bible describe in vivid detail this forthcoming punishment onto the whole world by devastating fire, earthquakes, storms and tsunamis. This sudden and shocking event will take most people unawares and we are told by Paul, that those who are ‘surprised’; that is unaware and unprepared, then: they may perish.. Ezekiel 21:3-4

Isaiah 30:26 tells us what it is that causes this worldwide devastation and also that it will be ‘the Day the Lord saves His people’. who are all faithful Christians, who truly believe in Jesus and a few Messianic Jews who will be protected in Jerusalem. Isaiah 6:13, Isaiah 29:1-4, Romans 9:27

Therefore it is up to us to take heed of the warnings, Isaiah 24:1, Isaiah 26:20-21 and to be prepared for all the effects of a massive explosion on the suns surface, that will kill about 1/3 of the world’s population and will destroy all of our modern infrastructure. Jeremiah 9:22, Ezekiel 30:1-8, Isaiah 13:12

Then; for all who love the Lord and keep His Commandments, the Lord is ‘waiting to show His favour’, Isaiah 30:18-20
 
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Habakkuk 1:5 Look around you among the nations, see there a sight that will utterly astound you, you will not believe it when you are told of what is being done in your days.

Habakkuk 1:6-11 goes on to say how the Babylonians were appointed to execute judgement against the House of Judah, but the preceding verses in Habakkuk 1:1-4 are a general indictment onto peoples and nations whose ‘laws are ineffective and where justice is overruled’. Therefore this threat of action by the Lord applies to our times, as well.

Action against ungodliness is the general principle.

This particular action spelt out by this particular prophet?

Come on. Surely you know how to read the Bible better than that!
 
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Action against ungodliness is the general principle.

This particular action spelt out by this particular prophet?

Come on. Surely you know how to read the Bible better than that!
That you can't see how Acts 13:40-41, applies to all who reject the Prophesies, is just proof of how it does apply!
 
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That you can't see how Acts 13:40-41, applies to all who reject the Prophesies, is just proof of how it does apply!
Thank you. Once again you proved my point for me, and quote my verses to me without actually understanding what you are quoting.

In trying to rebuke me for not listening to you go on and on and on about your theories about what's going to happen in the next 10 years, let's do Luke the courtesy of actually going back and reading these verses in context!

Acts 13:38-40 NIVUK
[38] ‘Therefore, my friends, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. [39] Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses. [40] Take care that what the prophets have said does not happen to you:


Who is this "you" he refers to? It's his audience.
Yes, 2,000 years ago.
The prophets had written about Jesus and the gospel.

Sure, on some rare occasions the Old testament prophets actually talk about eternal eschatology.

But their main focus was God's faithfulness, even in the midst of judging his own people! The average Jew must have wondered if God had forgotten them. The Assyrians took out the Israelites to the north, and the Babylonians took out Jerusalem and Judah to the South.

But in this context you think the major exilic prophets suddenly get the bright idea to talk about modern nation states like Iran and Iraq and Russia and America and whatever.

It's just utterly bewildering
 
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Who is this "you" he refers to? It's his audience.
Yes, 2,000 years ago.
Seriously bad conclusion.
The Bible is for everyone, at all times in history, now and future. Some directly applicable, the rest; as information and warnings.

Acts 13:41-42 is parallel to 2 Peter 3:3, .....in the last days..... and the 'doom', proclaimed by the Prophets remains unfulfilled. The 70AD conquest
of Judah by Rome, is not fully described by the Prophets, only by Jesus in Luke 21:23-24
It's just utterly bewildering
To you, yes, and to anyone who looks at videos like you post.
 
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Abraham was told to sacrifice his son. Should I?
Noah was told to build an ark. Should I?
There are lessons in these biblical narratives for us, but it doesn't mean that the particulars apply every single time.

However, in this particular instance the message that was preached 2,000 years ago still applies today. Listen to the prophets because they point to Jesus!

Don't listen to Keras, because he points to simply shocking reading by ripping things out of their context so that the original meaning is misunderstood, and therefore we can't draw any meaning from the passages whatsoever.


Unless we just want to write random words and pull them out of a hat.

Then we can make it say anything based on our gut feelings of the day
 
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Don't listen to Keras
Just listen to the Bible Prophets. What they plainly tell us, is the truth of the end times:

Listen to Me, you coasts and islands...
Isaiah 49:1-2 .... pay heed, you peoples far distant.
The Lord called and named me before I was born. He made me His spokesman. My reward is to be with God.

Isaiah 49:3-6The Lord said: Israel, you are My servants, through whom I shall win glory. My [Isaiah’s] task is to bring back Jacob to the Lord, that Israel would be gathered again to God. Is it too simple a task for you, to restore the 12 tribes of Jacob and bring back the survivors of Israel? They will be a light to the nations, so that My salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.

Isaiah 49:7-8 The Redeemer and Holy One of Israel says: You were once despised and in subjection, but the Lord has chosen you and kings will honour you. In the time of My favour, I will answer you and will help you on the Day of Deliverance. I have formed you and destined you to be a light for the peoples, restoring the Land and living once more in its desolate places.

Isaiah 49:9-11 I say to the captives: go free – to those in darkness: come out. Everywhere there will be pasture, water in plenty. It will not be too hot, for the One who loves them will guide them along highways and level paths. Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 34:11-16

Isaiah 49:12-13 They are coming – some from far away, the North, West and the lands of the South. Shout for joy, you heavens, earth rejoice, burst into song you mountains. For the Lord has comforted His people and has compassion on them in their distress.
Reference: REB, NIV, KJV. Verses abridged.

pay heed you peoples far distant….
Jacob, the 12 tribes of Israel, plus everyone grafted in by reason of faith and righteousness, are now scattered around the world.
Part of Judah have now returned to part of the Land.

Almost all of the Book of Isaiah, relates to the gathering of the true Israelite peoples, to all of the Promised Land. They are destined to be a light to the nations and spread the gospel around the world. The Lord will answer their prayers for help on the Day of deliverance, which is the same Day as the terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath. Isaiah 30:26, Isaiah 63:4, Zechariah 9:14-17.

There is the issue of the ten lost tribes, but all of that is irrelevant in the light of New Testament teaching, Ephesians 2:11-15 and many other verses; making it plain that ethnicity has no bearing on who is an Israelite of God. Faith and obedience is the only criteria.

Then, His people, Christian Israelites, will settle in all of the Holy Land. Genesis 15:18-21. They will live there in safety and prosperity. Ezekiel 34:11-31, Hosea 2:14-23.

so that My salvation may reach the ends of the earth’. This will be achieved by the 144,000- 12,000 selected from each tribe, who will go out in pairs to preach the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Verse 3; ‘My servants, through whom I shall win glory.’ Isaiah 66:19, Rev 14:1-7

It will not be too hot and the Lord will guide you along highways..... This is a reference to the fire and extreme heat of the Lord's Day of wrath, the literal day of fire, earthquakes, storms and tsunamis, that precedes this gathering of His people. Read Isaiah 35:1-10

No mention is made of the Millennium reign of Jesus, therefore this gathering is before the glorious Return. This is in order for His people, the Christian Israelites to fulfil their destiny, to fulfil the promises made to the Patriarchs, and to prepare for the Return of Jesus. It is them who say: Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord..
 
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