Is enforcement of immigration laws wrong?

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T10:31:24-0600

Vatican City State has strict immigration and entry laws, which are among the most restrictive in the world. Access to the state is tightly controlled by the Swiss Guard, and illegal entry is a serious offense punishable by heavy fines (up to 25,000 euros), prison sentences, and long-term bans from entering the territory.

(According to Google)

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T10:36:24-0600

Let millions of Muslim immigrants invade Vatican city. Do you think the Swiss guard would ignore them? Do you think they would not stop people from Muslim countries and ask for ID?

iarwain · 2026-02-22T11:01:23-0600

weary2025 said:
Vatican City State has strict immigration and entry laws, which are among the most restrictive in the world. Access to the state is tightly controlled by the Swiss Guard, and illegal entry is a serious offense punishable by heavy fines (up to 25,000 euros), prison sentences, and long-term bans from entering the territory.

Look at God's commandments to the Israelites about keeping the purity of their country when God gave it to them. Given that, it seems hard to believe that God is against countries having strong borders.

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T11:02:59-0600

iarwain said:
Look at God's commandments to the Israelites about keeping the purity of their country when God gave it to them. Given that, it seems hard to believe that God is against countries having strong borders.

This is typical of liberalism. They turn truth on its head and stoke the fires of racism and divisions for political gain. And no im not a republican. Im a disciple of Jesus

Yarddog · 2026-02-22T13:03:56-0600

weary2025 said:
Thats not true. Illegal immigration breaks the law.

So does parking illegally. Neither, though, are criminal offences.

weary2025 said:
Peter said to obey every ordinance of man.

How many do you obey. Peter didn't obey every law of man.. He refused to worship pagan gods.

weary2025 said:
The pope should be shamed for not rebuking it.

Should he rebuke you and I ? Neither of us are perfect.

weary2025 said:
He partners with lawlessness

So do you.

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T13:06:48-0600

Yarddog said:
So does parking illegally. Neither, though, are criminal offences.

How many do you obey. Peter didn't obey every law of man.. He refused to worship pagan gods.

Should he rebuke you and I ? Neither of us are perfect.

So do you.

Its a misdemeanor. Thats a criminal offense. Peter wouldn't have broke immigration laws in order to get money

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T13:07:34-0600

Yarddog said:
So does parking illegally. Neither, though, are criminal offences.

How many do you obey. Peter didn't obey every law of man.. He refused to worship pagan gods.

Should he rebuke you and I ? Neither of us are perfect.

So do you.

I don't partner with lawlessness. Im not the one breaking immigration laws of other nations

Fantine · 2026-02-22T14:03:21-0600

weary2025 said:
Thats rebellion against God's government authorities. Its a sin that provokes God's wrath

When God's government authorities (?) disobey the Constitution of their country upon which all our laws should be based, they--and the president, DHS Secretary, and superiors who give them immoral orders--provoke God's wrath.

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T14:04:39-0600

Fantine said:
When God's government authorities (?) disobey the Constitution of their country upon which all our laws should be based, they--and the president, DHS Secretary, and superiors who give them immoral orders--provoke God's wrath.

Every president gets scolded by the SCOTUS. Biden did as well. But immigration laws are not unconstitutional themselves

Hentenza · 2026-02-22T14:14:12-0600

Fantine said:
When God's government authorities (?) disobey the Constitution of their country upon which all our laws should be based, they--and the president, DHS Secretary, and superiors who give them immoral orders--provoke God's wrath.

Book, chapter, and verse please.

Yarddog · 2026-02-22T14:42:23-0600

weary2025 said:
Its a misdemeanor. Thats a criminal offense. Peter wouldn't have broke immigration laws in order to get money

Peter refused to worship pagan gods, which was the law in ancient times. So, Peter refused to obey all the laws of nations that he entered, spreading the Gospel.

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T14:45:28-0600

Yarddog said:
Peter refused to worship pagan gods, which was the law in ancient times. So, Peter refused to obey all the laws of nations that he entered, spreading the Gospel.

Its not the same thing. There is nothing evil about obeying this law

Yarddog · 2026-02-22T14:49:16-0600

weary2025 said:
I don't partner with lawlessness. Im not the one breaking immigration laws of other nations

Why are you separating immigration laws from other laws? The Apostles were immigrants in the nations they traveled to. Those that came after the Apostles were immigrants in many places that they traveled to. None obeyed all of the laws many nations where they went.

In the US, an immigrant that entered illegally but applied for refuge is no longer an illegal immigrant. They are protected by law but many people continue to call them illegal immigrants.

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T14:51:59-0600

Yarddog said:
Why are you separating immigration laws from other laws? The Apostles were immigrants in the nations they traveled to. Those that came after the Apostles were immigrants in many places that they traveled to. None obeyed all of the laws many nations where they went.

In the US, an immigrant that entered illegally but applied for refuge is no longer an illegal immigrant. They are protected by law but many people continue to call them illegal immigrants.

You're mistaken. Peter said to obey every ordinance of man. Paul said failing to do so is rebellious against God. There is no reason for millions of people to break immigration laws and claim its God's love

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T14:53:32-0600

Yarddog said:
Peter refused to worship pagan gods, which was the law in ancient times. So, Peter refused to obey all the laws of nations that he entered, spreading the Gospel.

Why dont you tell the pope to take in millions of illegal immigrants? He doesn't do that. They enforce their immigration laws

Yarddog · 2026-02-22T15:18:47-0600

weary2025 said:
Its not the same thing. There is nothing evil about obeying this law

A law is a law.

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T15:21:03-0600

Yarddog said:
A law is a law.

Wow. You just chucked out Peter's commandments along with Romans 13 and Titus 3.

Yarddog · 2026-02-22T15:22:51-0600

weary2025 said:
Why dont you tell the pope to take in millions of illegal immigrants?

The Catholic Church does help millions of immigrants. They feed them, house them, and help them medically, etc..

weary2025 said:
He doesn't do that. They enforce their immigration laws

And they also back immigration laws in nations around the world.

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T15:25:07-0600

Yarddog said:
The Catholic Church does help millions of immigrants. They feed them, house them, and help them medically, etc..

And they also back immigration laws in nations around the world.

America takes in half the world's immigrants. The Vatican also fines, imprisoned, and deports illegal immigrants

iarwain · 2026-02-22T17:19:25-0600

Yarddog said:
The Catholic Church does help millions of immigrants. They feed them, house them, and help them medically, etc..

You think the US doesn't partake in any humanitarian efforts?

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