RFK Jr. says it may be "better" if fewer children receive the flu vaccine

Ophiolite · Jan 9, 2026

Delvianna said:
Right, I'm putting peoples lives at risk for sharing an opinion which I have zero sway over in a real sense since I'm not in government or apart of the CDC. Vaccines also have been proven to increase the risk for getting it again. So your assertion they prevent infection is incorrect. link is a case study when dealing with humans and the flu.
"but over the course of the study the cumulative incidence of influenza increased more rapidly among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated."

Vaccine market is a hell of a money maker.

And so you have chosen to double-down with a single, suspect study rather than heed the multiple meta-studies that reveal the overall benefits of vaccines. That feeds into the frenzy of self-indulgent ignorance so commonplace amongst anti-vaxxers. I regret that your conscience in this regard has taken a long vacation. I think we're done here.

Delvianna · Jan 9, 2026

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
It really can be a 'conversational' topic when you're on the 'Physical and Life Sciences' subforum of the 'Discussion and Debate' subforum, and especially on a topic that many people do feel strongly about. Especially when there's people on this subforum who are in the medical field in some form or another who can actually talk about vaccines and the science behind them versus what people think the science behind them is.

You do realize that this forum allows debates, that doesn't mean you can't discuss... I have a medical degree too thanks but just because you can debate doesn't mean you grill every single person that comments to ask for their sources. That's ridiculous. This forum isn't "you must debate" it just says you can debate here. But I'm done debating. truly. The internet has taken the humanity out of discussions and forced it into some cynical place where people feel entitled to jump on people for stating a belief. We are done here.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Jan 9, 2026

Delvianna said:
You do realize that this forum allows debates, that doesn't mean you can't discuss... I have a medical degree too thanks but just because you can debate doesn't mean you grill every single person that comments to ask for their sources. That's ridiculous. This forum isn't "you must debate" it just says you can debate here. But I'm done debating. truly. The internet has taken the humanity out of discussions and forced it into some cynical place where people feel entitled to jump on people for stating a belief. We are done here.

Buh-bye. Sorry you didn't like the idea of people challenging your unfounded claims.

Delvianna · Jan 9, 2026

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Buh-bye. Sorry you didn't like the idea of people challenging your unfounded claims.

No, just your lack of care. See-ya

NxNW · Jan 11, 2026

Delvianna said:
I'm not against all vaccines, I'm against the modern ones. The ones back in the day seem to be more solid than the ones around now. It seems to me like it was started out in good faith that just devolved into a money making racket. Same with the history of the US government. Started out in good faith to give people freedom of religion and speech and has now devolved into corruption so deep, we'd need a civil war to fix it. I believe the modern medical science mostly (not all) is corrupt.

It's one thing to believe something, and quite another to prove it.

seeking.IAM · Jan 11, 2026

I am not going to follow RFK, Jr. for medical advice. Not ever.

rambot · Jan 12, 2026

Delvianna said:
Right, I'm putting peoples lives at risk for sharing an opinion which I have zero sway over in a real sense since I'm not in government or apart of the CDC.

When you repeat bad information, then yes you are giving "increased creedence" to the simple folk who are on the fence and who believe the health related information is a democracy.

Delvianna said:
Vaccines also have been proven to increase the risk for getting it again.

False. Or provide a source.

Delvianna said:
So your assertion they prevent infection is

You are not reading that study correctly. Nor are you presenting this information correctly.

Delvianna said:
link is a case study when dealing with humans and the flu.
"but over the course of the study the cumulative incidence of influenza increased more rapidly among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated."

Vaccine market is a hell of a money maker.

This is the efficacy for ONE year in ONE location.

You seem to believe this is the normal state of affairs.

It is not.

The Barbarian · Jan 26, 2026

Delvianna said:
Vaccines force a strain to evolve.

Not as much as humans surviving virus infections, and not the way you suppose. Not hard to test your belief. COVID-19 vaccines were widely used. Is the COVID-19 virus more virulent or less virulent as a result?

Right. The newer strains are less virulent. How can this be? You'd have to know something about genetics and evolution to understand. Likewise, influenza is much less virulent than it was when it emerged in the worldwide pandemic after WWI. It doesn't always happen. But it tends to happen because it's more favorable for the virus to do less harm.

Delvianna said:
Vaccines also have been proven to increase the risk for getting it again.

In one sense. If the virus kills you, you'll never get it again.

However, the data from the COVID-19 vaccine shows exactly the opposite of your assumption...

Journal of the American Medical Association July 27, 2022

Effectiveness Associated With Vaccination After COVID-19 Recovery in Preventing Reinfection

Conclusions and Relevance These findings suggest that risk of SARS-CoV-2 reinfection after recovery from COVID-19 was relatively high among individuals who remained unvaccinated. Vaccination after recovery from COVID-19 was associated with reducing risk of reinfection by approximately half.

RileyG · Jan 26, 2026

I'm very pro-vaccine and will continue to get the flu shot.

That being said, stay healthy and listen to your medical doctor!

Peace!

RileyG · Jan 26, 2026

essentialsaltes said:
This week, the Centers for Disease Control announced vaccines to fight respiratory syncytial virus, meningococcal disease, flu, and COVID are now recommended only for children at high risk of serious illness or after consultation between doctors and parents, as a part of the CDC's scaling back of key childhood vaccination recommendations. Until recently, the CDC recommended that everyone 6 months and older get the annual flu vaccine.

"So fewer people will get the flu vaccine?" Cordes asked.

"Well, that may be, and maybe that's a better thing," Kennedy said.

"Based on what evidence?" Cordes pressed. "There are 280, 290 kids who died last year due to the flu. There's no evidence that any kids died or were harmed due to the flu vaccine. So isn't this inevitably going to lead to more children dying?"

Cordes noted that roughly 90% of kids who died from the flu in 2024 weren't vaccinated against the flu, according to CDC data.

Wow, oh wow.

Words fail me sometimes.

SMH

seeking.IAM · Jan 26, 2026

Sadly, I think the CDC has been politicized and I can no longer trust our own government agency, either. I will rely on advice of my physician and the World Health Organization that I believe still has some integrity and credibility.

Hans Blaster · Jan 27, 2026

RileyG said:
Wow, oh wow.

Words fail me sometimes.

SMH

The word that failed you the most was "Trump".

Bob Crowley · 2026-02-22T09:15:40-0600

In response to the question, "do vaccines cause super viruses?", an AI generated answer was as follows -

No, vaccines do not cause "super viruses" in humans. In fact, widespread vaccination is the best way to prevent the emergence of new and dangerous variants. The idea of "super viruses" developing due to vaccines generally stems from a misunderstanding of how vaccines and pathogen evolution work.

Why Vaccines Don't Create "Super Viruses"

Different Mechanism than Antibiotics: The concern about "super viruses" is often an analogy to antibiotic-resistant bacteria ("superbugs"). However, vaccines and antibiotics work very differently. Antibiotics kill bacteria, and the few that survive are resistant, allowing their resistant genes to multiply. Vaccines, on the other hand, train the immune system to recognize a virus or bacterium, allowing the body to clear the infection much faster, which actually reduces the pathogen's opportunity to replicate and mutate.

Reduced Replication: The more people who are vaccinated, the fewer hosts a virus can infect and the less it can spread. Fewer infections mean fewer chances for random mutations to occur and new variants to arise.

Broad Immune Response: The human immune system produces a wide variety of antibodies targeting different parts of a pathogen after vaccination (or natural infection). A single mutation is rarely enough to evade all of these antibodies.

Historical Success: Mass vaccination campaigns have successfully eradicated diseases like smallpox and significantly reduced the incidence of polio and measles without creating "super viruses".

As far as I'm concerned, all Kennedy is going to achieve will be a lot of deaths and life long medical problems, resulting in a huge demand on hospitals and medical centres.

I hope the Australian medical authorities have enough intelligence to ignore the American experiment.

PS - If someone knows how to get rid of the images below the post, feel free!

essentialsaltes · 2026-02-22T09:41:29-0600

Bob Crowley said:
PS - If someone knows how to get rid of the images below the post, feel free!

I think if you Edit the post, the images will be on the bottom, and you should be able to click on a trashcan to delete/remove them.

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T10:43:08-0600

I read a report somewhere which said that flu vaccination doesn't save lives.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2026-02-22T11:36:52-0600

weary2025 said:
I read a report somewhere which said that flu vaccination doesn't save lives.

Cite it then. Give us the name.

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T11:40:29-0600

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Cite it then. Give us the name.

I cant. I dont remember where i saw it.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2026-02-22T11:42:40-0600

weary2025 said:
I cant. I dont remember where i saw it.

So I think that we can safely ignore it then.

weary2025 · 2026-02-22T11:45:50-0600

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
So I think that we can safely ignore it then.

If you want.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2026-02-22T11:48:31-0600

weary2025 said:
If you want.

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