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How do you feel living in the book of revelations?

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With wars breaking out everywhere, the economy getting increasingly worse and the elite being outed as being actual pedophile satanists it is very obvious that these are the end times and the people making illuminati exposed videos and the likes were right lol

Back then it felt kind of scary but now I stopped caring so I'm just waiting now
 

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Your opening post makes a lot of assumptions.

1) That the Revelation is about "the end times".

2) That current events are proof that we are living in "the end times".

3) The elite being "pedophile satanists".

4) That conspiracy theorists were right.


I would disagree on all of these assumptions.

1) The Revelation is not about a future "end times", but is about the victory of Christ over the powers of the world which, in the context of the Revelation, was the Roman Empire. This is why the Revelation identifies Nero as "the Beast".

2) There has never been a time in human history where there haven't been wars and economic crises. Empires rise and empires fall. Jesus explicitly taught us in the Olivet Discourse that when we see wars, natural disasters, kingdom rising against kingdom, etc that these are NOT signs of the end, these are the birth pains of a world suffering under the labor of sin and death.

3) Yes, it's pretty clear with release of the Epstein files that a lot of rich and powerful people, including the current sitting president of the United States, was engaged in grotesque behavior; and that the victims deserve justice. Those in positions of authority have a duty to see justice served, regardless of who the perp is, regardless of their wealth or power. But, again, corruption and evil committed by the rich and powerful isn't anything new. These things were just as true a thousand or two thousand years ago as they are today. Also, the introduction of "satanist" has no basis in fact. It doesn't require literal devil worship to be in a position of authority and do horrible things. It doesn't even require being rich and powerful to do horrible things. This is not evidence of some satanic cabal--it's evidence of corruption in places of power, and the importance of justice--justice for victims of abuse, victims of heinous abuse.

4) The conspiracy theorists out there talking about a make-believe "Illuminati" are not right. They are still just as wrong today as they were yesterday.
 
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I believe keeping other scripture in mind like the book of Ecclesiastes ( or for a shortcut, Ecclesiastes 12) and Matthew 24 & 25 can help us balance out what happens around us by faith.
 

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How do you feel living in the book of revelations?​


Compare the news to Revelation, and one can see that we are in trouble. Revelation hides the nation against nation wars of Matthew 24.

9/11 looks a lot like the second seal with the rise of the Sword of Islam. WW3 looks a lot like the fourth seal.

Western countries see World War III coming – POLITICO

"The outbreak of World War 3 is seen as more likely than not within the next five years by American, Canadian, French and British respondents."

Interestingly, Matthew 25 in the parable of the talents says the lazy servant (didn't feel like moving) gets tossed into outer darkness with wailing and gnashing of teeth. Except, outer darkness looks a lot like death by radiation where pain ramps up to level 10. Those who don't feel like fleeing will just get caught up in a nuclear war. The harvests are nuclear wars.

Buy a good mouthguard, so when you clench hard you don't break your teeth.
 
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We've been living in the book of Revelation since it was written. I don't see some significant shift in our current moment, around that.
 

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Your opening post makes a lot of assumptions.

1) That the Revelation is about "the end times".

2) That current events are proof that we are living in "the end times".

3) The elite being "pedophile satanists".

4) That conspiracy theorists were right.


I would disagree on all of these assumptions.

1) The Revelation is not about a future "end times", but is about the victory of Christ over the powers of the world which, in the context of the Revelation, was the Roman Empire. This is why the Revelation identifies Nero as "the Beast".

2) There has never been a time in human history where there haven't been wars and economic crises. Empires rise and empires fall. Jesus explicitly taught us in the Olivet Discourse that when we see wars, natural disasters, kingdom rising against kingdom, etc that these are NOT signs of the end, these are the birth pains of a world suffering under the labor of sin and death.

3) Yes, it's pretty clear with release of the Epstein files that a lot of rich and powerful people, including the current sitting president of the United States, was engaged in grotesque behavior; and that the victims deserve justice. Those in positions of authority have a duty to see justice served, regardless of who the perp is, regardless of their wealth or power. But, again, corruption and evil committed by the rich and powerful isn't anything new. These things were just as true a thousand or two thousand years ago as they are today. Also, the introduction of "satanist" has no basis in fact. It doesn't require literal devil worship to be in a position of authority and do horrible things. It doesn't even require being rich and powerful to do horrible things. This is not evidence of some satanic cabal--it's evidence of corruption in places of power, and the importance of justice--justice for victims of abuse, victims of heinous abuse.

4) The conspiracy theorists out there talking about a make-believe "Illuminati" are not right. They are still just as wrong today as they were yesterday.

I believe keeping other scripture in mind like the book of Ecclesiastes ( or for a shortcut, Ecclesiastes 12) and Matthew 24 & 25 can help us balance out what happens around us by faith.

I agree with all of this; the panic some people have along with doomsday speculation is unhelpful, also since it tends to distract from repentence from one’s own sins and devotion to Christ in favor of an unhealthy Chiliasm. But this is nothing new; I’ve always found the Left Behind films to not only be theologically erroneous but grossly offensive (for example, making the Antichrist a Romanian because some Chiliasts believe the Roman Empire will be rebuilt and the anti-Christ must be Roman, and then giving him a nonsense made up name “Nicolae Carpathia“ is grossly offensive; since Carpathia is not a Romanian name, the Carpathians are a different ethnic group (Carpatho-Rusyns or Ruthenians and the closely related Lemkos of southern Poland), both of which were harshly persecuted under Communism. And the name Nicolae - its like they just tried to think of a Romanian name off the top of their head and went with the name of the former dictator Nicolae Ceaușescu and probably patted themselves on the back for also having a name that would appeal to the kind of conspiracy theorist who regards Santa Claus as some kind of diabolical falsehood and who is unaware of the historical figure of St. Nicholas of Myra, who is one of the more interesting and dramatic confessors, who was tortured under Diocletian and who did slap Arius (and was deposed for the slap, but subsequently reinstated, for clergy were not allowed to strike people under ancient canon law, but in the case of St. Nicholas, according to the history of the council he was remorseful for slapping Arius, also to be fair, Arius was openly committing offensive blasphemy before the council by denying the deity of Christ, which for someone tortured under Diocletian for confessing Christ, had to be … difficult to endure).
 
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With wars breaking out everywhere, the economy getting increasingly worse and the elite being outed as being actual pedophile satanists it is very obvious that these are the end times and the people making illuminati exposed videos and the likes were right lol

Back then it felt kind of scary but now I stopped caring so I'm just waiting now
Been like that every century since the book was written....
 
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