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Fewer international tourists are visiting the U.S. — economic losses could be ‘staggering,’ researchers estimate

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All those voters in the tourism industry who supported him because of no tax on tips are now becoming unemployed? Couldn't they see he was unworthy of their trust?
Not their faces surely?
 
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You should have been here when this thread was actually taking place in June. I'm afraid I've lost my train of thought regarding it since then.

I fail to see how that is a response to what I posted. Just more denial and deflection.
 
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You should have been here when this thread was actually taking place in June. I'm afraid I've lost my train of thought regarding it since then.

I fail to see how that is a response to what I posted. It’s just more denial an deflection.
 
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I think Trump and associates are trying to crash the US/world economy hard so they can buy stocks cheap and then wait for the huge bounce back at the end of his term with a new president/admin.

Trump is someone who knows enough about money. He may not be a finance genius nor even capable of making responsible decisions but Trump certainly knows money better than most former presidents.

So if the economy seems heading for a crash or tanking hard and you have Trump as your president. Things are probably happening deliberately. Someone is trying to make billions at people's expense, at the whole world's expense.
 
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Someone being rude to me isn't going to prompt me to have a discussion with them.

Well, if it came off that way, I do apologize.

What I'm seeing from my end is that when confronted with evidence that contradicts your point, you change the subject and act like the evidence was never presented. Whether it was intentional or not, I see that quite a bit on these forums. I understand that its a politics forum, so that's par for the course. But the naive Christian in me somewhere deep down still expects better when it comes to dealing with other Christians.
 
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Well, if it came off that way, I do apologize.

What I'm seeing from my end is that when confronted with evidence that contradicts your point, you change the subject and act like the evidence was never presented. Whether it was intentional or not, I see that quite a bit on these forums. I understand that its a politics forum, so that's par for the course. But the naive Christian in me somewhere deep down still expects better when it comes to dealing with other Christians.
I don't think most people are going to want to restart a debate they were in several months go. The backtracking and re-reading everything involved to get back up to speed just isn't worth it. That's all there is to it. No strategies, no ulterior motives, no this or that. I just don't want to go through that process. To which you can say "okay I understand" and then cut me loose.
 
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Canadian deputy mayor nails Trump as the cause for $4.5 billion loss in US tourism

Wall Howard cited a Forbes magazine report from February that said the loss of tourism from Canada to the U.S. has cost the American economy roughly $4.5 billion. They used data from the U.S. Travel Association and the U.S. Commerce Department's National Travel and Tourism Office.

Las Vegas ended 2025 with one of highest jobless rates in country – 5.2%

Las Vegas ended 2025 with one of the highest jobless rates in the nation for big metro areas, amid a slump in tourism to America’s casino capital and broader economic jitters.

Southern Nevada has long relied heavily on visitors traveling here to spend big eating, drinking, partying, gambling and going to shows and conventions to fuel the economy. Visitor totals, however, tumbled last year as fewer people took Vegas vacations.

Around 38.5 million people visited Las Vegas last year, down 7.5 percent, or a drop of more than 3 million people, from 2024, according to the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority.
 
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Canadian deputy mayor nails Trump as the cause for $4.5 billion loss in US tourism

Wall Howard cited a Forbes magazine report from February that said the loss of tourism from Canada to the U.S. has cost the American economy roughly $4.5 billion. They used data from the U.S. Travel Association and the U.S. Commerce Department's National Travel and Tourism Office.

Las Vegas ended 2025 with one of highest jobless rates in country – 5.2%

Las Vegas ended 2025 with one of the highest jobless rates in the nation for big metro areas, amid a slump in tourism to America’s casino capital and broader economic jitters.

Southern Nevada has long relied heavily on visitors traveling here to spend big eating, drinking, partying, gambling and going to shows and conventions to fuel the economy. Visitor totals, however, tumbled last year as fewer people took Vegas vacations.

Around 38.5 million people visited Las Vegas last year, down 7.5 percent, or a drop of more than 3 million people, from 2024, according to the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority.
The tariffs, welfare cuts, and illegal immigrant crackdowns are supposed to bring in more money and reduce spending.

But the opposite is happening in reality. US economy is losing. Worse still, USA is fast losing friends and international credibility.

Trump's plans are doing the opposite outcome in reality. MAGA = MAD (Make America Disappear)

Maybe, this is all "part of the plan". Because if Trump is deviating from the "script" he'd be dead already like JFK and Abe.
 
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We've pulled the "welcome mat" and aren't even allowing residents of some countries to come to visit.

For years Paris had a bad rap because of anti-Americanism--not sure it that's the case now, but tourism was affected. The value of the dollar is another big factor. My son visited recently from South Korea. He's a partner in two businesses there, and says that American tourism to South Korea is through the roof because of the exchange rate. On the other hand, since he came to visit us, the exchange rate he was stuck diminished his purchasing power through the won.

So the exchange rate is probably the biggest detriment to tourism to America right now, but our drastically diminished reputation internationally makes tourists unwelcome.
 
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Canadian deputy mayor nails Trump as the cause for $4.5 billion loss in US tourism

Wall Howard cited a Forbes magazine report from February that said the loss of tourism from Canada to the U.S. has cost the American economy roughly $4.5 billion. They used data from the U.S. Travel Association and the U.S. Commerce Department's National Travel and Tourism Office.

Las Vegas ended 2025 with one of highest jobless rates in country – 5.2%

Las Vegas ended 2025 with one of the highest jobless rates in the nation for big metro areas, amid a slump in tourism to America’s casino capital and broader economic jitters.

Southern Nevada has long relied heavily on visitors traveling here to spend big eating, drinking, partying, gambling and going to shows and conventions to fuel the economy. Visitor totals, however, tumbled last year as fewer people took Vegas vacations.

Around 38.5 million people visited Las Vegas last year, down 7.5 percent, or a drop of more than 3 million people, from 2024, according to the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority.

Bessant had implied Americans are going to Vegas instead. I dont think the majority of Americans have the money for that.

Vid.

 
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Canadian snowbirds are still unhappy with Trump. And Palm Springs is feeling the chill

  • Palm Springs relies heavily on Canadian tourists, who are declining to travel to the U.S. or shortening their stays because of Trump.
  • The number of Canadian visitors to California plummeted more than 18% in 2025 compared with the year prior.
“Our friends at home said, ‘No, don’t go!’ ” said Lois Chapman, a longtime annual visitor from Ontario who came to Palm Springs this month for a shortened stay with her husband after initially planning to cancel their trip altogether.

Chapman said that her flight from Toronto in early February was mostly empty and that there was a palpable decline in Canadian tourists in the desert town.

Canadians — who pump millions of dollars into the economies of Palm Springs and other Coachella Valley cities — often book long stays up to a year in advance, providing a measure of stability for hoteliers and Airbnb owners, said Kenny Cassady, director of business development for Acme House Co., which manages vacation rental properties in the region.

With more Canadians staying home, those reliable long stays have been replaced by shorter reservations, booked at the last minute, primarily by domestic travelers

“We’re all in that nail-biting, last-minute phase of, ‘Are we going to get these rooms booked or not?’ ” he said.

Cassady, a licensed real estate agent, did three transactions in 2025. All were Canadians selling their Palm Springs condos.

The decline [of 18% in Canadian visitors] came in spite of a marketing campaign by Gov. Gavin Newsom and Visit California aimed at Canadians, with the governor emphasizing that the Golden State is more than 2,000 miles away from the White House.

[In addition to tariffs] Trump also posted that he planned to block the opening of a new bridge connecting Detroit and Windsor, Ontario, because he believed Canada had been exploiting the United States.

“I just don’t see this ending any time soon,” said McKenzie McMillan, a travel advisor for the Vancouver-based Travel Group, noting that demand for leisure trips to the U.S. is “very low.”

Many of his clients are opting instead to travel to the Caribbean and to Mexico, which is “absolutely out of control for us this year,” with resorts packed with Canadians, he said.

McMillan said he has noticed “a bit of a softening” in attitudes toward blue California in recent weeks because of the “pretty effective marketing” by Newsom and the state tourism board, as well as toward Hawaii, which is viewed as somewhat disconnected from mainland U.S. politics.
 
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If anyone thinks that Trump's "save a bridge for a friend" move with the new bridge about to open between Detroit and Windsor
Bessant had implied Americans are going to Vegas instead. I dont think the majority of Americans have the money for that.

Vid.

Bessent has learned the Trump move of professional gaslighting. The ultimate, you know what on your leg and telling you it's raining.
 
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