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'Dawson's Creek' star James Van Der Beek dies at 48 after colorectal cancer battle

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That's one of the main things that helps, but there are other aspects of diet likely responsible for the high rates of colon cancer among young people in the US, and the gut microbiome probably has something to do with it as well, possibly being a more proximal cause of actual mutagenesis that leads to cancer. It's likely that the high rates of cancer are not just due to diet - antibiotic use might be responsible as well.



GI problems are associated with mood disorders, that's not all that controversial anymore. IBS and depression tend to occur together more commonly.

The way the human body works, disease processes aren't necessarily simple linear mechanisms of cause and effect. You can have feedback loops and other nonlinear processes, so it's difficult to so whether underlying gut dysbiosis causes depression, or the other way around.
It doesn’t surprise me many people with mood disorders have GI problems. That matches my experience. I guess it just makes sense.
 
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It doesn’t surprise me many people with mood disorders have GI problems. That matches my experience. I guess it just makes sense.
The Kelloggs (yes the cereal people), ran a sanitarium where high-colonics were touted as the cure for a host of ills, way, back in the day.
 
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The Kelloggs (yes the cereal people), ran a sanitarium where high-colonics were touted as the cure for a host of ills, way, back in the day.
Quite interesting.

I’ve read that a lot of our immune system is related to our gut health.

Have no idea if that is true or not.
 
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Quite interesting.

I’ve read that a lot of our immune system is related to our gut health.

Have no idea if that is true or not.

Yes, it's true. Most people think of a healthy immune system as just preventing colds, but equally important is the immune system not promoting auto-immunity or inflammation when it isn't needed.
 
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Quite interesting.

I’ve read that a lot of our immune system is related to our gut health.

Have no idea if that is true or not.
From what I gather (and just find out in the course of living life), the role of the gut-biome is a not-at-all well understood mechanism (at present).
 
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Yes, it's true. Most people think of a healthy immune system as just preventing colds, but equally important is the immune system not promoting auto-immunity or inflammation when it isn't needed.
Thanks for the info!
 
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From what I gather (and just find out in the course of living life), the role of the gut-biome is a not-at-all well understood mechanism (at present).
Oh! There’s so much to be discovered! How fascinating! The human body is definitely very interesting and a complex “machine.”

Peace
 
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That would be the simple explanation that conventional wisdom would've dictated in the past. But researchers seem to be growing more skeptical about it being just a single factor (like diet).


The statistics show that people born around 1990 are twice as likely to get colon cancer and four times as likely to get rectal cancer compared to those born in 1950.
When I was in my early twenties I had stomach problems and sometimes passed blood. I was prescribed Tagamet and the doctors kept telling me I had an ulcer until I found one doctor who gave me test after test and finally ordered a colonoscopy. I had polyps in my colon the doctor said would have become cancerous if not removed. He probably saved my life. I’ve had a colonoscopy ever 5 years since then and now I’m 62
 
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When I was in my early twenties I had stomach problems and sometimes passed blood. I was prescribed Tagamet and the doctors kept telling me I had an ulcer until I found one doctor who gave me test after test and finally ordered a colonoscopy. I had polyps in my colon the doctor said would have become cancerous if not removed. He probably saved my life. I’ve had a colonoscopy ever 5 years since then and now I’m 62
Happy to hear you are healthy today! Glory to God!
 
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When I was in my early twenties I had stomach problems and sometimes passed blood. I was prescribed Tagamet and the doctors kept telling me I had an ulcer until I found one doctor who gave me test after test and finally ordered a colonoscopy. I had polyps in my colon the doctor said would have become cancerous if not removed. He probably saved my life. I’ve had a colonoscopy ever 5 years since then and now I’m 62
Wow, you had a really bad doctor at first. There’s a difference in stomach-blood and “lower down” blood.
 
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Oh! There’s so much to be discovered! How fascinating! The human body is definitely very interesting and a complex “machine.”

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Upward of 40% of us isn‘t even “human DNA”, even though we (nearly all) share versions of the same “germs” which are actually symbionts, providing an intermediary between our food and their “waste”.

We’re “healthier“ as a species because we “consume” (after a fashion) germ-poop.
They get a free ride in our bodies.
 
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Yikes! Been taking SSRIs and other antidepressants for more than half my life! Have taken antibiotics for acne and when I had a sinus infection. It’s really terrifying to think how medicine can actually harm us in the long run! I have no further comment.
A quick search on Pubmed, shows that SSRIs and other antidepressants seem to have a protective effect on colorectal cancer.

Ask your doctor if you feel uncertain. If you have reached middle-age you could also ask for a colonoscopy (actually I guess that in the US, you can have it whenever if you just pay for it).
 
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The article I linked before mentioned that perhaps the increase in microplastics could be a factor. However, I'm thinking that's just a preliminary inquiry on their part since it's just now gaining more attention.
It’s eating too much food and not enough exercise.
 
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I read, that James Van Der Beek exercised and he took care of himself. And he still died, Alot of people, that don't care of themselves live longer. Because of meds. A few years ago, I was diagnosed major depressive disorder, Complex post-traumatic stress disorder and other issues, because CPTSD issues. So, I have to take depression pills and other meds, that help me not to commit suicide. They help with anxiety and flashbacks. I had these symptoms forever. And I wished I was more honest about my issues, a long time ago. I'm getting therapy and meds now. If I was more honest when I was younger. I could have treatment younger and had a better life. Don't worry about taking your meds.
I’m really sorry to hear about your PTSD. Have you accessed any trauma focussed CBT or EMDR?
 
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Oh! There’s so much to be discovered! How fascinating! The human body is definitely very interesting and a complex “machine.”

Peace
We know more than you might think:

 
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The processed food "craze" (if we can call it that) was already well into the full swing by before 1990.

From 1970's and beyond, that's when the obesity rate started noticeably jumping up.

The article I linked before mentioned that perhaps the increase in microplastics could be a factor. However, I'm thinking that's just an preliminary inquiry on their part since it's just now gaining more attention.


I've personally wondered if perhaps overuse of antibiotics has had something to do it. Since there does appear to be at least something of an association between these cancers and disruption to the gut bacteria... Broad-spectrum antibiotics like the ones that are commonly used (and often overused) are certainly gut bacteria killers, as they go "scorched earth" on all bacteria (good or bad).

The 90's was the era where the term "antibiotic resistance" started making it into the mainstream, with the CDC having to issue warning and increased guidance. For those who remember the mid-90's awareness campaign by the CDC "Get Smart: Know When Antibiotics Work".

They did that because there were tons of people getting them prescribed when they weren't necessary.

In an NIH study reviewing prescribing patterns in the US from 2000-2010:
Despite a high probability of viral etiology, acute respiratory tract infections (ARTIs), such as bronchitis, pharyngitis and sinusitis, account for 75% of all antibiotics prescribed by office-based providers [9-11].

While I wasn't born in the 90's, but I was in elementary school and Jr. High in the 90's, and I remember those days of parents taking their kids in to get antibiotics for things like colds, sinus infections, and congestion. (despite most of those being viral, therefore, antibiotics have no impact)

There have been some smaller scale studies that have looked into and found what appears to be a large enough association that it could be causal


And the 90's was also the explosion of the usage of SSRI's in young people and prescribing rates for people under 18 skyrocketed. And interestingly enough, there is a gut connection there. Since that class of drugs targeted serotonin levels, and they now know that 90% of the body's serotonin is synthesized in the GI tract. Seems like it's a least a reasonable potential causal link to look into.
I take a 81 mg aspirin every day, studies have shown that it helps prevent colon cancer
 
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To add to his family’s pain, I saw they set up a go fund me for him and while it’s easy to think some big time actor would have tons of money lying around but if he’s been out of work for several years and spending out of pocket for his treatment it’s very likely any money he had from his career is likely gone.
Yeah, about that go fund me, it’s so they can keep the $4.75 million dollar property they bought a month before he died.

 
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It’s eating too much food and not enough exercise.

There has to be some other factor that's driving though... as in the case of James Van Der Beek and Chadwick Boseman, neither appeared to have issues with weight or diet (and Boseman appeared to be pretty fit)
 
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There has to be some other factor that's driving though... as in the case of James Van Der Beek and Chadwick Boseman, neither appeared to have issues with weight or diet (and Boseman appeared to be pretty fit)
I meant about being generally unhealthy. Cancer is a dice roll. You can affect the chances but it’s never a 100% some form of cancer won’t express in your cells.

That’s why it’s such an awful disease.
 
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