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'Dawson's Creek' star James Van Der Beek dies at 48 after colorectal cancer battle

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James Van Der Beek, the actor known best for embodying those formative, angsty teenage years in "Dawson's Creek" and "Varsity Blues," has died following a diagnosis with colorectal cancer. He was 48.

Van Der Beek's death was announced with a post on the actor's official Instagram page Wednesday, Feb. 11. "Our beloved James David Van Der Beek passed peacefully this morning," a caption of a photo of the actor read.
 

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James Van Der Beek, the actor known best for embodying those formative, angsty teenage years in "Dawson's Creek" and "Varsity Blues," has died following a diagnosis with colorectal cancer. He was 48.

Van Der Beek's death was announced with a post on the actor's official Instagram page Wednesday, Feb. 11. "Our beloved James David Van Der Beek passed peacefully this morning," a caption of a photo of the actor read.
That's too bad. I've read the colon cancer was rising among younger people.

I've never seen any of his shows - maybe I'll catch up.
 
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That's too bad. I've read the colon cancer was rising among younger people.

I've never seen any of his shows - maybe I'll catch up.
Sadly, I’ve been seeing it, too. Had a former co worker die a few months ago from this same type of cancer, and knew several others die in their 30s to 50s :(
 
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Thank you

Indeed. Coffee and OJ keep me regular. Hope I’m doing the right thing for my health.
Staying on this side quest, OJ is highly over rated. Juicing rather than eating whole fruit makes you miss out on the fiber it contains and the satiety it would provide wile getting you all the sugar in isolation. Just eat the fruit, you'll be better for it.
 
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Eat your fiber people.
That would be the simple explanation that conventional wisdom would've dictated in the past. But researchers seem to be growing more skeptical about it being just a single factor (like diet).


The statistics show that people born around 1990 are twice as likely to get colon cancer and four times as likely to get rectal cancer compared to those born in 1950.
 
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Staying on this side quest, OJ is highly over rated. Juicing rather than eating whole fruit makes you miss out on the fiber it contains and the satiety it would provide wile getting you all the sugar in isolation. Just eat the fruit, you'll be better for it.
Thank you.

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That would be the simple explanation that conventional wisdom would've dictated in the past. But researchers seem to be growing more skeptical about it being just a single factor (like diet).


The statistics show that people born around 1990 are twice as likely to get colon cancer and four times as likely to get rectal cancer compared to those born in 1950.
As someone born in the 1990s, this concerns me a great deal. I wonder if all the processed food people consume has something to do with it? Who knows? Sigh
 
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As someone born in the 1990s, this concerns me a great deal. I wonder if all the processed food people consume has something to do with it? Who knows? Sigh
It's certainly possible as diet affects the the gut microbiome which affects the whole body.
 
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As someone born in the 1990s, this concerns me a great deal. I wonder if all the processed food people consume has something to do with it? Who knows? Sigh
It's certainly possible as diet affects the the gut microbiome which affects the whole body.

The processed food "craze" (if we can call it that) was already well into the full swing by before 1990.

From 1970's and beyond, that's when the obesity rate started noticeably jumping up.

The article I linked before mentioned that perhaps the increase in microplastics could be a factor. However, I'm thinking that's just an preliminary inquiry on their part since it's just now gaining more attention.


I've personally wondered if perhaps overuse of antibiotics has had something to do it. Since there does appear to be at least something of an association between these cancers and disruption to the gut bacteria... Broad-spectrum antibiotics like the ones that are commonly used (and often overused) are certainly gut bacteria killers, as they go "scorched earth" on all bacteria (good or bad).

The 90's was the era where the term "antibiotic resistance" started making it into the mainstream, with the CDC having to issue warning and increased guidance. For those who remember the mid-90's awareness campaign by the CDC "Get Smart: Know When Antibiotics Work".

They did that because there were tons of people getting them prescribed when they weren't necessary.

In an NIH study reviewing prescribing patterns in the US from 2000-2010:
Despite a high probability of viral etiology, acute respiratory tract infections (ARTIs), such as bronchitis, pharyngitis and sinusitis, account for 75% of all antibiotics prescribed by office-based providers [9-11].

While I wasn't born in the 90's, but I was in elementary school and Jr. High in the 90's, and I remember those days of parents taking their kids in to get antibiotics for things like colds, sinus infections, and congestion. (despite most of those being viral, therefore, antibiotics have no impact)

There have been some smaller scale studies that have looked into and found what appears to be a large enough association that it could be causal


And the 90's was also the explosion of the usage of SSRI's in young people and prescribing rates for people under 18 skyrocketed. And interestingly enough, there is a gut connection there. Since that class of drugs targeted serotonin levels, and they now know that 90% of the body's serotonin is synthesized in the GI tract. Seems like it's a least a reasonable potential causal link to look into.
 
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The processed food "craze" (if we can call it that) was already well into the full swing by before 1990.

From 1970's and beyond, that's when the obesity rate started noticeably jumping up.

The article I linked before mentioned that perhaps the increase in microplastics could be a factor. However, I'm thinking that's just an preliminary inquiry on their part since it's just now gaining more attention.


I've personally wondered if perhaps overuse of antibiotics has had something to do it. Since there does appear to be at least something of an association between these cancers and disruption to the gut bacteria... Broad-spectrum antibiotics like the ones that are commonly used (and often overused) are certainly gut bacteria killers, as they go "scorched earth" on all bacteria (good or bad).

The 90's was the era where the term "antibiotic resistance" started making it into the mainstream, with the CDC having to issue warning and increased guidance. For those who remember the mid-90's awareness campaign by the CDC "Get Smart: Know When Antibiotics Work".

They did that because there were tons of people getting them prescribed when they weren't necessary.

In an NIH study reviewing prescribing patterns in the US from 2000-2010:
Despite a high probability of viral etiology, acute respiratory tract infections (ARTIs), such as bronchitis, pharyngitis and sinusitis, account for 75% of all antibiotics prescribed by office-based providers [9-11].

While I wasn't born in the 90's, but I was in elementary school and Jr. High in the 90's, and I remember those days of parents taking their kids in to get antibiotics for things like colds, sinus infections, and congestion. (despite most of those being viral, therefore, antibiotics have no impact)

There have been some smaller scale studies that have looked into and found what appears to be a large enough association that it could be causal


And the 90's was also the explosion of the usage of SSRI's in young people and prescribing rates for people under 18 skyrocketed. And interestingly enough, there is a gut connection there. Since that class of drugs targeted serotonin levels, and they now know that 90% of the body's serotonin is synthesized in the GI tract. Seems like it's a least a reasonable potential causal link to look into.
There are a lot of possible contributors which need studying. Likely, it is not a single factor.

Perhaps research funding will be restored and we can figure it out.
 
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To add to his family’s pain, I saw they set up a go fund me for him and while it’s easy to think some big time actor would have tons of money lying around but if he’s been out of work for several years and spending out of pocket for his treatment it’s very likely any money he had from his career is likely gone.
 
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The processed food "craze" (if we can call it that) was already well into the full swing by before 1990.

From 1970's and beyond, that's when the obesity rate started noticeably jumping up.

The article I linked before mentioned that perhaps the increase in microplastics could be a factor. However, I'm thinking that's just an preliminary inquiry on their part since it's just now gaining more attention.


I've personally wondered if perhaps overuse of antibiotics has had something to do it. Since there does appear to be at least something of an association between these cancers and disruption to the gut bacteria... Broad-spectrum antibiotics like the ones that are commonly used (and often overused) are certainly gut bacteria killers, as they go "scorched earth" on all bacteria (good or bad).

The 90's was the era where the term "antibiotic resistance" started making it into the mainstream, with the CDC having to issue warning and increased guidance. For those who remember the mid-90's awareness campaign by the CDC "Get Smart: Know When Antibiotics Work".

They did that because there were tons of people getting them prescribed when they weren't necessary.

In an NIH study reviewing prescribing patterns in the US from 2000-2010:
Despite a high probability of viral etiology, acute respiratory tract infections (ARTIs), such as bronchitis, pharyngitis and sinusitis, account for 75% of all antibiotics prescribed by office-based providers [9-11].

While I wasn't born in the 90's, but I was in elementary school and Jr. High in the 90's, and I remember those days of parents taking their kids in to get antibiotics for things like colds, sinus infections, and congestion. (despite most of those being viral, therefore, antibiotics have no impact)

There have been some smaller scale studies that have looked into and found what appears to be a large enough association that it could be causal


And the 90's was also the explosion of the usage of SSRI's in young people and prescribing rates for people under 18 skyrocketed. And interestingly enough, there is a gut connection there. Since that class of drugs targeted serotonin levels, and they now know that 90% of the body's serotonin is synthesized in the GI tract. Seems like it's a least a reasonable potential causal link to look into.
Yikes! Been taking SSRIs and other antidepressants for more than half my life! Have taken antibiotics for acne and when I had a sinus infection. It’s really terrifying to think how medicine can actually harm us in the long run! I have no further comment.
 
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To add to his family’s pain, I saw they set up a go fund me for him and while it’s easy to think some big time actor would have tons of money lying around but if he’s been out of work for several years and spending out of pocket for his treatment it’s very likely any money he had from his career is likely gone.
How incredibly sad! :(
 
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Yikes! Been taking SSRIs and other antidepressants for more than half my life! Have taken antibiotics for acne and when I had a sinus infection. It’s really terrifying to think how medicine can actually harm us in the long run! I have no further comment.
I read, that James Van Der Beek exercised and he took care of himself. And he still died, Alot of people, that don't care of themselves live longer. Because of meds. A few years ago, I was diagnosed major depressive disorder, Complex post-traumatic stress disorder and other issues, because CPTSD issues. So, I have to take depression pills and other meds, that help me not to commit suicide. They help with anxiety and flashbacks. I had these symptoms forever. And I wished I was more honest about my issues, a long time ago. I'm getting therapy and meds now. If I was more honest when I was younger. I could have treatment younger and had a better life. Don't worry about taking your meds.
 
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Eat your fiber people.

That's one of the main things that helps, but there are other aspects of diet likely responsible for the high rates of colon cancer among young people in the US, and the gut microbiome probably has something to do with it as well, possibly being a more proximal cause of actual mutagenesis that leads to cancer. It's likely that the high rates of cancer are not just due to diet - antibiotic use might be responsible as well.

The processed food "craze" (if we can call it that) was already well into the full swing by before 1990.

From 1970's and beyond, that's when the obesity rate started noticeably jumping up.

The article I linked before mentioned that perhaps the increase in microplastics could be a factor. However, I'm thinking that's just an preliminary inquiry on their part since it's just now gaining more attention.


I've personally wondered if perhaps overuse of antibiotics has had something to do it. Since there does appear to be at least something of an association between these cancers and disruption to the gut bacteria... Broad-spectrum antibiotics like the ones that are commonly used (and often overused) are certainly gut bacteria killers, as they go "scorched earth" on all bacteria (good or bad).

The 90's was the era where the term "antibiotic resistance" started making it into the mainstream, with the CDC having to issue warning and increased guidance. For those who remember the mid-90's awareness campaign by the CDC "Get Smart: Know When Antibiotics Work".

They did that because there were tons of people getting them prescribed when they weren't necessary.

In an NIH study reviewing prescribing patterns in the US from 2000-2010:
Despite a high probability of viral etiology, acute respiratory tract infections (ARTIs), such as bronchitis, pharyngitis and sinusitis, account for 75% of all antibiotics prescribed by office-based providers [9-11].

While I wasn't born in the 90's, but I was in elementary school and Jr. High in the 90's, and I remember those days of parents taking their kids in to get antibiotics for things like colds, sinus infections, and congestion. (despite most of those being viral, therefore, antibiotics have no impact)

There have been some smaller scale studies that have looked into and found what appears to be a large enough association that it could be causal


And the 90's was also the explosion of the usage of SSRI's in young people and prescribing rates for people under 18 skyrocketed. And interestingly enough, there is a gut connection there. Since that class of drugs targeted serotonin levels, and they now know that 90% of the body's serotonin is synthesized in the GI tract. Seems like it's a least a reasonable potential causal link to look into.

GI problems are associated with mood disorders, that's not all that controversial anymore. IBS and depression tend to occur together more commonly.

The way the human body works, disease processes aren't necessarily simple linear mechanisms of cause and effect. You can have feedback loops and other nonlinear processes, so it's difficult to so whether underlying gut dysbiosis causes depression, or the other way around.
 
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I read, that James Van Der Beek exercised and he took care of himself. And he still died, Alot of people, that don't care of themselves live longer. Because of meds. A few years ago, I was diagnosed major depressive disorder, Complex post-traumatic stress disorder and other issues, because CPTSD issues. So, I have to take depression pills and other meds, that help me not to commit suicide. They help with anxiety and flashbacks. I had these symptoms forever. And I wished I was more honest about my issues, a long time ago. I'm getting therapy and meds now. If I was more honest when I was younger. I could have treatment younger and had a better life. Don't worry about taking your meds.
I hope you are doing well and life is treating you well.

Take care
 
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