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keras · Monday at 2:31 AM

Douggg said:
Have you given up on your solar event, depopulation of current Israel, and replacement nation built by Christians migrating to the land of Israel ?

That particular scenario would take many years for a rebuild.

No, a CME is the only thing that will literally fulfil all the Prophesies about the Day of the Lords fiery wrath.

Many Prophesies say the Land will be regenerated quickly and how the Lords peoples will take over the houses that remain.

Have you given up on being beamed up to heaven yet?
THAT idea is the weird and impossible one.

Douggg · Monday at 8:25 AM

keras said:
No, a CME is the only thing that will literally fulfil all the Prophesies about the Day of the Lords fiery wrath.

Then, how can your solar event scenario happen in the 8 year window in your thinking that Jesus will return by 2034 ?

2034 - 7 years for Daniel 9:27, Ezekiel 39:9 = 2027.

How can your solar event scenario fit between now (2026) and end of 2027 ?

keras · Monday at 1:23 PM

Douggg said:
How can your solar event scenario fit between now (2026) and end of 2027 ?

The Lord will destroy His enemies in the Holy Land and change the world by the means of a massive explosion on the sun. That is what the Prophets say will happen. He will instigate it at the moment of attack by Iran to nuke Israel. Could be anytime now!

As for when Jesus will Return, my guess is just a guess. At least we do agree that Jesus will Return! With His angel army.

Douggg · Monday at 8:09 PM

keras said:
As for when Jesus will Return, my guess is just a guess. At least we do agree that Jesus will Return! With His angel army.

Yes, with His angels. But His angels are not His Bride army of Revelation 19:14, which was in heaven. Revelation 19:7-8 is His bride, the resurrected/raptured saints. Can't get by that one, can you ?

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

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Let's see what the 1989 REB translation says...

7 Let us be glad and rejoice and give glory to him; for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his wife has prepared herself.
8 To her it has been granted to be clothed in fine linen, bright and pure; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.

14 And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses

....same thing, keras. ~~Hard~~, no impossible, for you to prove resurrection/rapture to heaven is not going to take place.

keras · 2026-02-10T04:13:21-0600

Douggg said:
....same thing, keras. ~~Hard~~, no impossible, for you to prove resurrection/rapture to heaven is not going to take place.

Total pretentious nonsense.
Heaven is never mentioned in Rev 19:7-8. You falsely assume heaven as the place for the Marriage feast.
No one goes to heaven, Jesus said so 6 times. Fine white linen is no proof for the incredible idea of humans in heaven and returning with Jesus.

Douggg · 2026-02-10T04:23:29-0600

keras said:
Heaven is never mentioned in Rev 19:7-8. You falsely assume heaven as the place for the Marriage feast.
No one goes to heaven, Jesus said so 6 times. Fine white linen is no proof for the incredible idea of humans in heaven and returning with Jesus.

The armies clothed in fine white linen come from heaven - therefore, have to have been in heaven.

Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

keras · 2026-02-10T06:01:16-0600

Douggg said:
Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean

the armies which were in heaven....
They will be Spiritual beings;- angels, who are heavenly beings. Matthew 16:27 confirms it.

Give up the error of the rapture, it is just a Satanic deception and may cause many to lose their Salvation.

Douggg · 2026-02-10T12:17:14-0600

keras said:
the armies which were in heaven....
They will be Spiritual beings;- angels, who are heavenly beings. Matthew 16:27 confirms it.

No, the armies are clothed in white fine linen, describing what the Bride of Christ was wearing a few verses earlier in Revelation 19:7-8.

keras, are you saying that the angels are the Bride of Christ ?

keras · 2026-02-10T13:30:51-0600

Douggg said:
No, the armies are clothed in white fine linen, describing what the Bride of Christ was wearing a few verses earlier in Revelation 19:7-8.

keras, are you saying that the angels are are the Bride of Christ ?

Why don't you put a white robe over a donkey and call it a saint?
Some common sense and less jumping to conclusions, would be good.

The truth is: There will be no humans returning with Jesus and no one is raptured to heaven Any other theory is wrong.

Douggg · 2026-02-10T15:32:47-0600

keras said:
Why don't you put a white robe over a donkey and call it a saint?
Some common sense and less jumping to conclusions, would be good.

The truth is: There will be no humans returning with Jesus and no one is raptured to heaven Any other theory is wrong.

keras, are you saying that the angels are the Bride of Christ ?

keras · 2026-02-10T20:32:19-0600

The Wrath of God will come from the sky: -
Romans 1:18-20 Divine Retribution will be seen by all, falling from heaven on all the impiety and wickedness of men and women who deny the truth. 1 Samuel 2:10
For all that can be known about God lies plain before their eyes. His invisible power and divine nature are knowable to any reasonable mind, so all are without excuse and their conduct is indefensible. Hebrews 11:6

Romans 1:21-32 These ungodly people know that there must be a Creator, but they refuse to acknowledge or give thanks to Him. So now, their thinking has become futile and their misguided minds are plunged into darkness. They claim to be wise, but they have just made fools of themselves. Psalms 14:1-3
Therefore God has given them over to all kinds of perversions and idolatries, while actually knowing God’s righteous decree that those who behave like this deserve to die, but they continue in their depravity and approve of the same conduct in others. Job 22:12-13

Romans 2:5-11 God’s kindness and patience is allowing us time to come to repentance, but if people refuse His gift of salvation, then on the Day of Retribution, all will be justly judged according to their deeds. His wrath awaits those who are governed by selfish ambition, who refuse obedience to the truth and who take evil for their guide. Isaiah 2:12, Isaiah 29:19-21, Isaiah 65:11-12

To both the Israelites and Gentiles who pursue glory, honour and immortality by living a righteous life, God will reward them with eternal life. Hosea 2:19 God has no favourites.

2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 It is just that God should pay back those godless peoples and give the righteous relief. This will happen when [the power of] the Lord Jesus is seen in the sky in a blazing fire, punishment will fall upon all who do not obey the gospel and they will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, separated from His presence. Isaiah 59:18
On that great Day, Jesus will come and reveal His glory amongst all believers in Him. Only revealed to His believers. Jeremiah 31:2-3, Revelation 14:1

Hebrews 10:26-27 For those who deliberately persist in sin while knowing the truth, there remains only the terrifying expectation of God’s judgement, of a fierce fire that will consume His enemies. Habakkuk 3:12, Malachi 4:1

2 Peter 3:7 & 10 On that Day, the Lord will come as a thief, the sky will disappear with a great roar and the earth will be devastated by fire. Zephaniah 3:8, Isaiah 34:2-4, Isaiah 66:15-17, Revelation 6:14, Jeremiah 30:23-24
Reference: REB. Some verses abridged and paraphrased.

None of these Bible quotes fit with or refer to the Return of Jesus in His glory, seen by all mankind, at the commencement of His Millennium reign. Revelation 19:11

It is an event before that, where the Lord makes ‘fire fall from heaven’, His great Day of Retribution against His enemies’. It is the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the next prophesied event that we can expect. It is a terrible punishment by fire, that will punish the ungodly, a massive explosion of the suns surface, which will firstly devastate the Middle East, but also dramatically affect the whole world. Psalms 83, Micah 4:1

Douggg · 2026-02-10T22:43:35-0600

keras, are you saying that the angels are the Bride of Christ ?

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