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Dan Perez said:
And Eph 1:4 JUT AS CHOSE. /// EKLEGOMAI. us for HIMSELF BEFORE //. PRO. the over throw of bv the world

and Christ does not make MISTAKES. !!

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Dan Perez said:
And Eph 1:4 JUT AS CHOSE. /// EKLEGOMAI. us for HIMSELF BEFORE //. PRO. the over throw of bv the world

and Christ does not make MISTAKES. !!

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Dan Perez said:
And Eph 1:4 JUT AS CHOSE. /// EKLEGOMAI. us for HIMSELF BEFORE //. PRO. the over throw of bv the world

and Christ does not make MISTAKES. !!

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Keras, you are making up what Revelation 13:8b-9 says.

The whole purpose of the 144k is to save millions of unbelievers in the Trib who repent and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

That includes the GT as proven by "scorching heat" in Rev 7:16. That scorching heat occurs in the 4th bowl --- the GT.
 
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Jeffrey Bowden said:
Keras, you are changing the meaning of Matt 24:31. It does NOT say where those folks are gathered to.

The best guess is they are the sheep in Matt 25:31-40.

Keras, Apostle John was shown a supernatural vision of each chapter of Rev. He wrote each chapter according to what he saw and heard in each supernatural scene.

John confirmed how he learned all of Rev in Rev 22:8 (ESV): I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me,

It is thereby proven, in John's own words, that Rev 4:1 is unfulfilled and will therefore serve as the pre-Trub rapture of the Church.
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And I checked 1 Peter 4:12 ans did not see a mention of a SIX. SEAL so where are youn. hiding behind. IT . ??

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Dan Perez said:
And I checked 1 bbPeter 4:12 ans did not see a mention of a SIXE SEAL so where are youn. hiding behind. IT B. ??

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Keras isn't hiding anything other than the tremendous extent that he makes things up.

He's a Preterist. Their whole belief system is made up.
 
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keras said:
It is not anything of the kind. Just Gods call to John for him to receive Revelation.
You constantly show your bias and wrong beliefs. We all must endure trials and testing, the Lord will try and Judge everyone.
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Keras, you're apparently forgetting what John said about how he received Revelation.

Rev 22:8 (ESV): I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me,

He said twice that he "heard and saw" these things. He was on Patmos the whole time and heard and saw by way of a supernatural education. He heard and saw specifically through a vision that included audio of each chapter in Rev.

John never left Patmos because he didn't have to, to absorb and write Rev.

Rev 4:1 is unfulfilled and it will serve as the pre-Trib rapture of the Church.
 
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keras said:
It is not anything of the kind. Just Gods call to John for him to receive Revelation.
You constantly show your bias and wrong beliefs. We all must endure trials and testing, the Lord will try and Judge everyone.
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Keras, you're violating Rev 3:10 (ESV): Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.

"You" represents believers. "Those" represents unbelievers.

Jesus said all believers will be kept from the Trib, and that all unbelievers will be tried in the Trib.

Jesus says you're wrong.
 
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keras said:
It is not anything of the kind. Just Gods call to John for him to receive Revelation.
You constantly show your bias and wrong beliefs. We all must endure trials and testing, the Lord will try and Judge everyone.
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Believers do not enter the Trib (Rev 3:10). We are judged immediately after the pre-Trib rapture (Rev 4:1; 2 Tim 4:8). 1 Th 4:17 sets up our in-the-air positioning for the Judgment Seat of Christ (2 Cor 5:10).
 
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