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JD Vance at March for Life: Abortion debate is a question of choosing either God or paganism

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Who is to raise a child? Whose financial responsibility is it? Christians are responsible people. Work for your own bread not taking from anyone else says Scripture.
Trump is working on improving the overall economy which allows then for affordable housing, utilities and food. Trumps efforts are working in spite of the 33 trillion dollars of Bidenss deficit. You don’t throw taxpayer money at the country’s economic bills… it’s proven to fail and cripple an economy. Improving business conditions… which is happening under Trump’s efforts…results in jobs and lowering costs to the consumer.
Correct! No child deserves to die in the name of choice! People can control themselves, people are NOT animals!
 
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No one is shaming the poor. I’ve been poor to raise my child at home…requires deep sacrifice.

As for culture wars, that is fighting the good Christian fight at the government level. We had huge moral decay.

Crime is now down by nearly 50% in most categories…news the left misses or keeps secret.

Biden fed chairman is behind high housing costs.

One must search out the facts. No “side” is perfect; Christian principles are to be our guide.
My mother had 9 siblings and my father had 10 siblings. They were considered “dirt poor.”

All of them, without exception, deserved to live. Period.
 
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Then why shame those that look at their meager finances and the precarity of the current social and ecological arrangements and conclude they cannot raise a child? People like Vance want to turn 21st century realities into culture war talking points divorced from the material basis of family life in the first place.



Most Americans say the economy continues to be a pressing concern. Housing affordability hasn't really budged downward. And all the proposed remedies of the Trump regime do little to address underlying causes, which is the hoarding of wealth in speculative investments in real estate.

The way JD Vance and Donald Trump talk about “family values” is mostly about appearances. They parade images of happy children and families and talk about moral duty, but their policies don’t actually make family life any more sustainable. The things that used to make stable families possible—good wages, affordable housing, reliable healthcare, accessible childcare—are nowhere to be found. What they’re really doing is demanding people have more kids while pretending economic insecurity is a virtue.


The way the Right talks anxiously about who is “having kids” exposes the same problem. They point to Latino or immigrant families as proof that Americans could just choose to have more children. But those families are often living in conditions that would be considered illegal, unsafe, or unacceptable in mainstream society—overcrowded housing, informal work, stretched social networks. Treating that kind of struggle as a model for everyone else is cruel and dishonest. It normalizes hardship and pretends that enduring precarity is somehow virtuous.

What Vance and Trump are really offering is not a path to prosperity or flourishing families, but a managed decline dressed up as moral duty. They want people to accept tighter margins, less security, and more stress, and to feel virtuous for doing it. Strip away the smiling children in the ads, and what’s left is austerity sold as a moral project.
I don't know if you have ever been a parent. If not, I have a secret to tell you: If you wait for the "perfect" time to have children, you'll never be a parent. This people once knew and counted children as a joy. The reason people don't want to have children now is that instead of a joy, children are seen as an inconvenience. Period. Children means someone's life permanently changes. Children mean someone can no longer put themselves first.

It's perhaps no surprise that a culture that encourages people to put self first also supports abortion on demand. Nor is it surprising that such a culture harbors a hatred for children and mocks parents who have more than one child.
 
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