Christian nationalist pastor McPherson: "Empathy is aligned with hell."

Yarddog · 2026-02-09T14:24:24-0600

Hentenza said:
If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck………..

If it loves like a Christians, believes like a Christian, is humble like a Christian, and proclaims faith is in God alone, ....it must be a Christian.

You will know us by our love.

Hentenza · 2026-02-09T14:43:47-0600

Yarddog said:
If it loves like a Christians, believes like a Christian, is humble like a Christian, and proclaims faith is in God alone, ....it must be a Christian.

You will know us by our love.

lol remember that I used to be Catholic.

o_mlly · 2026-02-09T14:44:22-0600

Servus said:
Ah so you want me to focus on the Catholic church too, just like the other person wanted.

No. What I want is not important. What is important is what do you want to achieve with your posts. What is your objective?

If a cleric in any faith has disordered passions, has taken a vow of chastity, and practices homosexuality then their behaviors are a matter for their superiors to address.

Yarddog · 2026-02-09T14:59:58-0600

Hentenza said:
lol remember that I used to be Catholic.

Yeah, I used to be a Southern Baptist. Lol

Hentenza · 2026-02-09T15:16:40-0600

Yarddog said:
Yeah, I used to be a Southern Baptist. Lol

lol

Servus · 2026-02-09T21:25:29-0600

o_mlly said:
No. What I want is not important. What is important is what do you want to achieve with your posts. What is your objective?

To make a point.

o_mlly said:
If a cleric in any faith has disordered passions, has taken a vow of chastity, and practices homosexuality then their behaviors are a matter for their superiors to address.

What about the Church going along with LGBTQ+ in general?

Servus · 2026-02-09T21:28:30-0600

Yarddog said:
Nope, I'm proving that you don't know how to read. Nobody has to go by your narrow definitions of the English language. When you are on the outside looking in, you get a small understanding of what's going on inside. Take the time to understand what's actually going on before casting judgment.

Now you're just making the empty claim that those whom you're arguing with don't know what they're talking about.

Servus · 2026-02-09T21:31:19-0600

dlamberth said:
From my perspective, Empathy in this case is seeing how badly the Church has treated those of the Gay community. Throughout history the church's influence on laws has led to criminalization and even capital punishment of those in the Gay community. And it seems to me that has led to attempt a correction of a wrong by the Church.

So now it's time to be pro-LGBTQ+.

dlamberth · 2026-02-09T22:58:06-0600

Servus said:
So now it's time to be pro-LGBTQ+.

It's called Pro-Humanity. It's about time.

Servus · 2026-02-10T00:26:13-0600

dlamberth said:
It's called Pro-Humanity. It's about time.

Which is really pro-humanism where you're supposed to rationalize, accept, and support most anything the broken world is into.

Servus · 2026-02-10T01:58:54-0600

The way it's supposed to work is people repent of their current way of life, whatever it is. To turn away from it. To put aside whatever they're into, and pick up their cross and follow Jesus. They're no longer into LGBTQQIP2SA+ or anything else of this world. It started with the Apostles giving up everything, leaving everything dear to them behind, in exchange for following Jesus.

2PhiloVoid · 2026-02-10T04:34:19-0600

Servus said:
The way it's supposed to work is people repent of their current way of life, whatever it is. To turn away from it. To put aside whatever they're into, and pick up their cross and follow Jesus. They're no longer into LGBTQQIP2SA+ or anything else of this world. It started with the Apostles giving up everything, leaving everything dear to them behind, in exchange for following Jesus.

I think the 'trick' here is to realize that we're to help each other bear our individual crosses.

But somehow it's become a DIY project, with a bit of 'tough love' from fellow Christians to boot-scoot us along.

Servus · 2026-02-10T06:52:20-0600

2PhiloVoid said:
I think the 'trick' here is to realize that we're to help each other bear our individual crosses.

But somehow it's become a DIY project, with a bit of 'tough love' from fellow Christians to boot-scoot us along.

Jesus was pretty tough love himself. He had many 'if you do or don't do such-in-such, you can't be my disciple and or won't enter the kingdom of heaven' sayings.

o_mlly · 2026-02-10T06:59:50-0600

Servus said:
To make a point.

Which is?

Servus said:
What about the Church going along with LGBTQ+ in general?

What do you mean by "in general"?

John 8:7.

2PhiloVoid · 2026-02-10T07:17:15-0600

Servus said:
Jesus was pretty tough love himself. He had many 'if you do or don't do such-in-such, you can't be my disciple and or won't enter the kingdom of heaven' sayings.

I don't count those as examples as 'tough love.'

The overall point is that even IF the Lord applies 'tough-love' from time to time, that doesn't mean we are each in an authorized position to likewise met it out on the world around us.

I think the primary problem comes in that many people (Christians) confuse the work of evangelizing for social clean-up, and they are more concerned about living in a "preferred society" than they are about the eternal destiny of each and every human soul around them.

I'm sorry, but political ideology-----whatever shade or side it may be on, Left or Right----- needs to take a backseat to the Great Commission. There's a reason I've already addressed the issue of Christian Compassion as obligatory upon all of us, even if we disagree with the Leftist advocacy for their version of 'empathy.' Our approach to people shouldn't be too much different than Jesus' attitude in talking to the woman at the well, or any other people whom He saw were in need of spiritual redirection toward salvation.

Servus · 2026-02-10T07:37:55-0600

2PhiloVoid said:
I don't count those as examples as 'tough love.'

The overall point is that even IF the Lord applies 'tough-love' from time to time, that doesn't mean we are each in an authorized position to likewise met it out on the world around us.

I think the primary problem comes in that many people (Christians) confuse the work of evangelizing for social clean-up, and they are more concerned about living in a "preferred society" than they are about the eternal destiny of each and every human soul around them.

I'm sorry, but political ideology-----whatever shade or side it may be on, Left or Right----- needs to take a backseat to the Great Commission. There's a reason I've already addressed the issue of Christian Compassion as obligatory upon all of us, even if we disagree with the Leftist advocacy for their version of 'empathy.' Our approach to people shouldn't be too much different than Jesus' attitude in talking to the woman at the well, or any other people whom He saw were in need of spiritual redirection toward salvation.

I don't think compassion and empathy voids being honest with people. Brutally honest even.

Servus · 2026-02-10T07:39:54-0600

o_mlly said:
Which is?

What do you mean by "in general"?

John 8:7.

John 5:14

2PhiloVoid · 2026-02-10T07:51:46-0600

Servus said:
I don't think compassion and empathy voids being honest with people. Brutally honest even.

For some people, "brutality" is apparently the name of the game and the measure they think needs to be meted out, whether they're on the Left or the Right.

Let's just remember that in the wash of life, the measure we use will be the measure applied back to us.

Servus · 2026-02-10T08:06:07-0600

2PhiloVoid said:
For some people, "brutality" is apparently the name of the game and the measure they think needs to be meted out.

Let's just remember that in the wash of life, the measure we use will be the measure applied back to us.

I don't think the solution is placating people into complacency. It's going from one extreme to the other.

We're in the era of partisapation trophies. No one's feelings must be hurt in the slightest under any circumstances. Everything must be done to avoid that. People must be accommodated no matter what.

2PhiloVoid · 2026-02-10T08:07:05-0600

Servus said:
I don't think compassion and empathy voids being honest with people. Brutally honest even.

Moreover, I've had my fill of "brutally honest" fellow Christians, and it's due to them that I can't get my wife or my son back to church these days.

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