Trump posts racist video depicting the Obamas as monkeys

Bradskii · Sunday at 7:56 PM

Tuur said:
Outrage over two seconds that quite plausibly was missed. If you want to try to have it both ways, have at it, but since that last two seconds was apparently missed here, it is just as plausible that it was missed by the WH.

No. That is wrong. The WH knew it had been tagged on to the video. Obviously, as they refused, and still refuse to apologise for it.

Akita Suggagaki · Sunday at 8:20 PM

Tuur said:
it is just as plausible that it was missed by the WH.

Then an apology is in order.

Tuur · Sunday at 8:25 PM

Pommer said:
Did other nations come up with reasoned rationalizations as to why black people were inherently inferior and nature-bound to be subjugated by their white brethren?

Actually, the UK did. So did France. And Portugal. Spain had a hand in it, too. In the case of the Antelope, the US intercepted a slave ship that turned out to be bound to Spanish Florida. The importation of slaves was illegal in the US by then, but quite legal in Spanish Florida.

If you can find the original version of Daniel Defoe's Robinson Crusoe, one that hasn't been heavily edited, it starts with the title character captured and made a slave in a Muslim country, only to escape and start a plantation with slaves in South America. And such was the ways of the early 18th Century world.

As to the "inferior" idea, it was quite common and not necessarily associated with slavery. Ben Franklin initially accepted the idea until it was shown to him to be false. That he changed his opinion when so many of his contemporaries didn't is really quite remarkable. Lincoln believed it somewhat. and I'm uncertain if he ever fully changed his opinion as Franklin did.

Tuur · Sunday at 8:26 PM

Akita Suggagaki said:
Then an apology is in order.

Which I doubt would be accepted.

Akita Suggagaki · Sunday at 8:40 PM

Tuur said:
Which I doubt would be accepted.

So doesn’t need to be made?

Bradskii · Sunday at 8:41 PM

Tuur said:
Which I doubt would be accepted.

Obama has the grace and character to accept an apology. Trump doesn't have the grace or character to offer one.

The Barbarian · Sunday at 9:26 PM

RDKirk said:
To be honest, if something going out under the president's imprimatur isn't going through more than one person before it hits the Internet, it displays how irresponsibly reckless this presidency is.

Actually, it's more worrisome than if Trump actually posted that himself. Which I suspect he did. In his present confused state, it seems he just never realized that so many people would find it offensive.

FreeinChrist · Monday at 11:09 AM

The Barbarian said:
Actually, it's more worrisome than if Trump actually posted that himself. Which I suspect he did. In his present confused state, it seems he just never realized that so many people would find it offensive.

That Trump is up most of the night rage posting indicates to me that he has dementia. HIs repeated claims that he aced the cognitive test indicates to me that he has dementia. His failures to see things offensive that are offensive indicates to me he has dementia.

Larniavc · Monday at 11:47 AM

The Barbarian said:
Yep.

The major difference is that in southern states, people actually do inbreed more often, while white people are in some ways, anatomically more like other apes than black people are.

Let’s also not forget white folks show less genetic diversity than sub Saharan Africans and clearly bred with non-homo sapiens sapiens in the before times of the long long ago.

7thKeeper · Monday at 12:00 PM

Larniavc said:
Let’s also not forget white folks show less genetic diversity than sub Saharan Africans and clearly bred with non-homo sapiens sapiens in the before times of the long long ago.

As a curious sidenote of this, the Finnish genome shows the amount of DNA inherited from neanderthals is among the highest in Europe. It shows up still in our skull structure from what I remember.

Larniavc · Monday at 12:05 PM

The Barbarian said:
The key here, is the post was done late at night. During the day, Trump's staff keeps an eye on him. At night, he's free to do this kind of stuff. I bet, if you went over the craziest stuff he's put out on social media, most of it was done after work hours.

Eventually he’ll accidentally post the internet sexualism material he has just consumed.

RDKirk · Monday at 12:14 PM

7thKeeper said:
As a curious sidenote of this, the Finnish genome shows the amount of DNA inherited from neanderthals is among the highest in Europe. It shows up still in our skull structure from what I remember.

That's evidence for my theory!

[Poe]I theorize that aliens swooped up the Finns eons ago, kept them in isolation for study for generations, then dropped them back a couple of thousand years ago.

Only good explanation for the way Finns are.[/Poe]

Larniavc · Monday at 12:14 PM

Chesterton said:
"blacks really are like monkeys"

This is a really odd take. Really odd. People don’t object to these racist images because they think they are true (and thus they are racist) rather that these are the images we all know racist use when they want to insult black folks.

If I call someone a fat pig it’s not because I think they look like a pig. There is a symbolism involved. Racist have loooong used insulting images that are coded symbology to try to hide their racism.

Frankly I’m surprised this level of understanding appears beyond you.

That is the message of the video. No one cannot know what the imagery represents to the guffawing racists. The difference is they literally believe it’s true.

Larniavc · Monday at 12:16 PM

MrMoe said:
Your statement is a overgeneralization. It treats aging as uniform. It centers one medical condition (enlarged prostate) as if it’s a near-universal outcome of aging in men, when in reality many older men never develop significant prostate enlargement and others manage it effectively with lifestyle changes or treatment.

Plus there is no proof Trump has an enlarged prostate.

If he doesn’t he is a very rare outlier.

Akita Suggagaki · Monday at 12:18 PM

Larniavc said:
The difference is they literally believe it’s true.

Yes so how do we deal with such people?

Bradskii · Monday at 12:41 PM

Akita Suggagaki said:
Yes so how do we deal with such people?

Bring them out into the sunlight. Show them for what they are. Quote them when they say that being offended by racism is fake outrage.

Akita Suggagaki · Monday at 12:46 PM

Bradskii said:
Bring them out into the sunlight. Show them for what they are. Quote them when they say that being offended by racism is fake outrage.

They are already out there and proud of it.

I think reflective questioning could help but it takes skill and self discipline to.

Chesterton · Monday at 1:15 PM

Larniavc said:
This is a really odd take. Really odd. People don’t object to these racist images because they think they are true (and thus they are racist) rather that these are the images we all know racist use when they want to insult black folks.

No it's not odd. I never would have thought of it if I hadn't seen it via a thread title like "trump-posts-racist-video-depicting-the-obamas-as-monkeys". Blacks, feminists, queers...they all do it. Too many people just engage in projection.

Chesterton · Monday at 1:17 PM

Akita Suggagaki said:
They are already out there and proud of it.

I think reflective questioning could help but it takes skill and self discipline to.

I am already in the sunlight and I welcome questioning.

The Barbarian · Monday at 1:59 PM

Larniavc said:
Eventually he’ll accidentally post the internet sexualism material he has just consumed.

He'll probably have declined a bit more before he does that.

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