The Lord's Wrath - How will it Happen

keras said:

For the Lord brings His judgement against the nations, He arraigns all mankind and hands over the wicked and godless to the sword.

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Exactly also as stated in Matt. 25 sheep/goat account to the tee

The Sword of separation is His Flaming Tongue

keras said:

The Prophesies in #40, do not fit with the Bema Judgment at all.

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It's nearly an exact overlay of Matt. 25's sheep/goat separation, that being the separation of devils from among people. Severing the wicked from the just.

Matthew 13:49
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

keras said:

As God did in the days of Noah, He will again use natural means to destroy His enemies. Fire from the sun. Isaiah 30:26-30

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There's a fairly big clue about "like the waters of Noah" in Isaiah. Have you ever heard it?

keras said:

Isaiah 54:1 Sing, barren woman, who never bore a child, Shout for joy, you who have never been in labour, for the deserted wife will have more children that she who has a husband.
This verse refers to the Israelites – the 10 Northern tribes, then Judah, both divorced and exiled from God for their sins, but now ‘a vast multitude’. Isaiah 50:1, Jeremiah 3:8-9, Malachi 2:10-11, Ezekiel 36:10-11.

Isaiah 54:2-3 Enlarge your space, spread out right and left, your descendants will dispossess nations and will inhabit cities now desolate.
The Israelites, now including every faithful Christian: will go to live in all of the holy Land, they will take over neighbouring areas and will live in their abandoned houses. Zechariah 10:8-10, Micah 7:11, Ezekiel 36:24-28, Amos 9:12, Zephaniah 3:19-20.]

Isaiah 54:4-6 Fear not, you will not be put to shame or disgrace. It is time to forget the shame of your younger days and the reproach of your casting off, for your husband is your Maker, His name is Y’hovah. The Holy One of Israel is your redeemer, He acknowledges you as his possession again, once cast off and heartbroken.
His people, the Christian Israelites of God, can look forward to their redemption and restoration to their heritage. Amos 9:13-15, Jeremiah 31:31-34, Isaiah 14:1-2

Isaiah 54:7-8 I forsook you for a passing moment, but with tender affection, I shall bring you home again. In an upsurge of anger, I hid My face from you, but now, I shall give you never failing love, says the Lord; your Redeemer.
a passing moment – 1000s of years of Israel’s exile ( a 1000 years is as a day to God) Soon to migrate to their true homeland. Isaiah 35:1-10, Zephaniah 3:17, Micah 3:6-8.

Isaiah 54:9-10 This to Me, is like when I swore to never again flood the earth, so now I swear to you – to never again be angry or rebuke you. My love will never fail and My covenant of peace will never be shaken.
Wonderful promises of blessings to His people, those who love and serve Him. Micah 7:19, Hosea 14:4-7, Ezekiel 37:26-27

Isaiah 54:11-12 Storm battered city, distressed and desolate, now I shall rebuild you with the finest materials.
Jerusalem – and all the Holy Land- rebuilt and regenerated after the destruction caused by the Lords Day of vengeance and wrath. Joel 1:19-20, Amos 9:11, Ezekiel 36:8-12

Isaiah 54:13-17 Your children will be instructed by the Lord, they will enjoy great prosperity. They will have nothing to fear. If anyone tries to attack you, they will die [Ezekiel 38 & 39 & Joel 2:20] No weapon will prevail against you and any accuser will be refuted. These benefits are enjoyed by the servants of the Lord, their victory comes from Me. Reference; REB, some verses abridged.

His faithful Christian people, living in peace and security, in all of the holy Land, will fulfil all the promises made to the Patriarchs. They will be ‘a Light to the nations ‘ and will send out 144,000 missionaries to spread the gospel of the coming Kingdom of Jesus Christ. Isaiah 66:19, and Luke 10:1-19 – is the precursor for them.
Ref: logosteos.info

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I'd suggest that the destruction via separation of the devil and his messengers from people (Matt. 25 and your prior Isaiah citings) will greatly benefit all people.

Divine fire will literally come out of the mouth of the Lord. That is what the Bible describes, Revelation 19:21. After the 1000 years divine fire comes down from the sky Revelation 20:9.

The saints are promised to be able to see the vengeance of the Lord. From everything in scripture we can conclude we will be up in the air with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
Joel 2:11, Revelation 19:14

Malachi 4:3-4 says the wicked will be ashes under our feet, on the day of the Lord.

A CME does not fit with everything said about that day.

keras said:

what happens when Jesus Returns, has nothing to do with the cause and effects of the Lords Day of vengeance and wrath.

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He (Jesus) treds the winepress of the fierceness of the wrath of Almighty God. Revelation 19:15

To execute the vengeance written, this honor have all the saints. Psalm 149:9

Malachi 4:3-4
The wicked shall be ashes under your feet in the day that I do this says the Lord.

A fire devours before them....
And the Lord shall utter His voice before His army. Joel 2:4 Joel 2:11

The rest were slain with the sword of Him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded from His mouth. Revelation 19:21

The army in Ezekiel 37:9-10 is the same army of Joel 2:11 and Revelation 19:14-21. The great army of the Lord, an army of resurrected and made immortal saints, from the four winds.
There is no rapture, there is resurrection into that army. It happens in the twinkling of an eye.

Behold the Lord comes with 10,000's of His saints, to do doom upon all flesh. Jude 1:14-15

We saints are caught up into the air, the clouds, not heaven, the literal sky, the air, just as Paul said. And from the air we will view the vengeance unfold and have part in its execution, being part of the Lord's army.







The sun is not outside of the sky, how did they get a signal with pictures back from the Parker solar probe? From 90 million miles away getting a signal back should be impossible. They were able to send a probe and get images back because the sun is right where we see it, not extremely far away, and not outside of the sky.

The sun rejoices as a strong man to run a race, it's circular path encompasses all the expanse of the sky, and nothing under the sky is hid from the heat of it. Psalm 19

And no man has ascended up beyond the sky, except He that first came down from beyond the sky, even the Son of man which lives beyond the sky. John 3:13

The office of the beast has installed the lie of a globe and sun outside of the sky. Just as the Bible says, he speaks lies about what is outside of the sky, and things related to the stars.
Daniel 8:10-12, Revelation 13:6

The idea of a CME is based on science given by the beast. What the Messiah will do on His day has no 'scientific' explanation. It will be a day of great miracles. All righteous Israel will be gloriously resurrected, all sincere believers will be gloriously changed and all together caught up into the Lords great army for that day.

And the Lord will utter His voice before His army. Joel 2:11 Literal divine fire will come out of His mouth. Revelation 19:21

keras said:

@contratodo - Why don't you use the sequence of events and things as given in Revelation?
The Sixth Seal Lords Day of the Lords vengeance and wrath must be the next Prophesied event, Rev 6:12-17, then after much drama and troubles, the 7th Bowl will be Armageddon and the glorious Return of Jesus.

A Coronal Mass Ejection IS a natural event, just as Noah's Flood was.

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Maybe your theology positions just took a bad turn down doom and gloom lane?

Isaiah 11:9
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

keras said:

I do not preach doom and gloom. The great Promises of God to His faithful peoples, are wonderful.

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Except for everyone that gets wiped out

keras said:

Why don't you use the sequence of events and things as given in Revelation?
The Sixth Seal Lords Day of the Lords vengeance and wrath must be the next Prophesied event, Rev 6:12-17, then after much drama and troubles, the 7th Bowl will be Armageddon and the glorious Return of Jesus.

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I believe that the same prophecy is being repeated in Revelation. The seals are one complete telling of it. The trumpets another complete telling of the prophecy. Chapter 12 also tells the whole prophecy in another way. And the vials are yet another retelling. They are not chronological, it's all a vision John has. Each part, seals, trumpets, vials, are repeating the same prophecy over but each giving different aspects of what happens during the same prophesied time.

Chapter six gives us the clearest timeline, white, red, black and pale representing four overlapping periods of time, ending with the great day of the Lord, which is the beginning of the 1000 years.

So the sixth seal is the glorious return of Jesus.
Revelation 6:12-17 == Matthew 24:30-31
Also the seventh trumpet is the return. Revelation 11:15-18
Also the seventh bowl.
Revelation 16:15
The same prophecy is being repeated, first with seals, then trumpets then bowls.