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Call upon the Name of the Lord and you shall be Saved.

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Joel 2:32awhosoever shall call upon the Name of the Lord will be saved.
Context – verse 31….before the coming of the great and terrible Day of the Lord. Verse 32b …on Mt Zion and in Jerusalem there will be a remnant as the Lord has promised.

Romans 10:13 Everyone who calls on the Name of the Lord shall be saved. Context: Verse 12 There is no distinction between Jew and Gentile, because the same Lord is Lord of all…. Verse 14; People must first be converted to Christianity and have faith in God.

Acts 2:21 Everyone who calls on the Name of the Lord on that day, shall be saved. Context: Verse 19-20 I will show portents in the sky and blood, fire and smoke on the earth, The sun will be darkened and the moon like blood, before that notable Day of the Lord, comes. Verse 22: Men of Israel; [My faithful peoples] hear Me…..

1 Corinthians 1:2 To Gods Church in Corinth, dedicated to Christ Jesus and called to be His peoples, along with all who invoke the Name of our Lord wherever they may be; their Lord as well as ours.

Psalms 116:5-13 Gracious is the Lord and full of compassion. He preserves the simple hearted, when I was in distress, He saved me. My heart is at peace once more, for the Lord has granted me full deliverance. I am rescued from death and I will walk in the Presence of the Lord, in the land of the living. I will take the cup of Salvation and call upon the Lord by Name.

It is when disaster strikes, we are told to call to our Lord and Saviour. When He sends His fiery wrath to destroy His enemies and there will be dramatic things in the sky, terrible earthquakes and extreme heat. Isaiah 43:1-2 is His Promise to those who put their trust in His protection: Have no fear, for I; the Lord, has redeemed you, I will call you by name, you are Mine. When you pass thru water, I will be with you…Walk thru fire and you will not be burned.

What should be patently obvious, is all this has nothing to do with our Salvation, or the glorious Return of King Jesus. It all refers to the next Prophesied event; the Sixth Seal Day of the Lords vengeance and wrath, graphically described in over 100 Prophesies. Just as the sequence in Revelation shows us.

First the great test of our faith, a Day of worldwide disaster which will destroy our modern infrastructure, along with the destruction of all the ungodly peoples in the Holy Land. Then: further testing and the punishment of those who follow the ‘beast’= Satan, in the Great Tribulation of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls.

Only those peoples who have proved their faith will go with Jesus into the Millennium.
 

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John 14:6 " I am the way and the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me." In order to be saved everyone must go through Jesus, the real question is can you do this after your mortal body is dead. Thanks to Augustine the western Latin based Christians think that salvation only can happen while the mortal body is alive, but Scripture never says that you can only call on Jesus and be saved only while in your mortal body. Heb 9:27 " it is appointed for man to die once and after that comes judgement." Most in the western Church think that the judgement is eternal heaven or eternal hell, that is an assumption that the judgement is equal to the sentence or punishment, but that is not in line with the whole of scripture. Isaiah 45:33-Rom 14:11- Phil 2:10-11 all say that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess, In the Phil 2 the Greek word for confess is Exomologeo which means to acknowledge, openly and joyfully, to celebrate, to give praise to without reservations, this is not a forced false confession, this is a willing acknowledgement of who Jesus is and they will all do this. If this can't happen after your mortal body is dead then Scripture would contradict itself and that is not possible. For me it is clear that Jesus is after the true us not our body and he will search out every sheep that is lost until he finds it, and we are not our bodies its just a tent or vessel we inhabit for a temporary time. So yes all must call on Jesus for salvation and Scripture is clear that all humans will do this, some now in the mortal body most after their mortal body is dead.
 
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So yes all must call on Jesus for salvation
I specifically said and proved that the admonition of the OP, was not for our Salvation, but for the Lords protection, when He sends His fiery wrath upon the earth.
We are saved when we accept the atoning sacrifice of Jesus and make public confirmation of our Christian faith.

We will be protected and kept alive by the Lord on the terrible Day of worldwide disaster, if we pass the test; 1 Peter 4:12, of faith in Him.
The 3 men in the furnace and Psalms 91 are a good examples of how this works.

The sad fact is that so many Christians have no idea of what God has planned for our future. They will be shocked and surprised by the forthcoming Sixth Seal world changer. Luke 21:25-26
 
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We don't go through the tribulation if we are followers of Jesus, so there is no point to ask if we will have protection. Those who become Christians, after the Church is raptured, if they live do go into the millennium and will live under the rule of Jesus and his saints.
 
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I specifically said and proved that the admonition of the OP, was not for our Salvation, but for the Lords protection, when He sends His fiery wrath upon the earth.
We are saved when we accept the atoning sacrifice of Jesus and make public confirmation of our Christian faith.

We will be protected and kept alive by the Lord on the terrible Day of worldwide disaster, if we pass the test; 1 Peter 4:12, of faith in Him.
The 3 men in the furnace and Psalms 91 are a good examples of how this works.

The sad fact is that so many Christians have no idea of what God has planned for our future. They will be shocked and surprised by the forthcoming Sixth Seal world changer. Luke 21:25-26
Keras, are you saved? You're placing salvation in the future. Are you saved now or not?

The "fiery wrath" you quote is taken out of context. Try reading 1 Peter 4:12 (ESV): Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you.

Verse 12 is about the uncomfortable circumstances one will run into when spreading the Gospel.Verses 13-14 prove the context as daily trials and tribulations when spreading the Gospel. Why do you misapply that to a future event in the Trib (the seven years of Tribulation as detailed in Rev 6 - 16)?

Your comments about Rev 6 are false. Rev 6:15-17 are about "everyone" on Earth (see verse 15). They all overreact to an alleged sighting of Jesus. They all run in complete fear to hide in caves and among the rocks. That is wholly and exclusively the behavior of unbelievers. What would believers do in the same circumstance? We would be overjoyed and we would run to Jesus!

The phenomenon in Rev 6 serves as proof of God's existence and that He is all-powerful. The purpose of the Trib is to get unbelievers to repent or to face eternal condemnation.

We're currently marching toward 1 Th 5:3. Trump is God's man for leading this world toward peace and safety, as in 1 Th 5:3.

The Trib is approaching, and so are 1 Th 4:16-17. Rev 3:10 says believers ("you" or "thee") will be kept from the Trib, and unbelievers ("those" or "they") will be tried in the Trib.
 
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We don't go through the tribulation if we are followers of Jesus, so there is no point to ask if we will have protection. Those who become Christians, after the Church is raptured, if they live do go into the millennium and will live under the rule of Jesus and his saints.
The three quotes of the OP, do not apply to the Great Tribulation of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls. They specifically say it will be the Lords terrible Day of vengeance and fiery wrath, when we must Call upon His Name. The Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.

Please do not mention a rapture, without giving scriptural support for such a thing.
I note that Revelation 3:10 says: the hour of trial will come upon everyone.......Keeping His faithful people from the dramatic things as described, is by protection, not removal. Isaiah 43:2
 
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I do not understand why you need Scriptural support for the rapture when you know darn well what those of us who follow the early church fathers on the pretrib rapture and the scripture that is used, for those who are ignorant of them, the internet is full of places to learn.
To me the mistake that is being made is that those who think that the Gentile Church will still be around during the tribulation, but the current Church will be gone, but that does not mean no one left will follow Jesus, the Jews will have the veil removed and many church goers who were not following Jesus but a form of religion, will be saved. These are those who the Father will protect but many will also become martyrs.
 
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I do not understand why you need Scriptural support for the rapture when you know darn well what those of us who follow the early church fathers on the pretrib rapture and the scripture that is used, for those who are ignorant of them, the internet is full of places to learn.
My request is simple; provide Biblical proof that the Church will be raptured to heaven, or cease to believe and promote it.
To me the mistake that is being made is that those who think that the Gentile Church will still be around during the tribulation,
Proof that Gods holy peoples are present on earth, is in Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:7, where the Anti-Christ 'beast' conquers them.
Humans never go to heaven, after the Millennium, God and therefore heaven; comes to us. Revelation 21
 
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Everyone should call on the name of Our Lord be it in times of peace or turmoil...

Indeed, “Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have mercy on Me, A Sinner.” This prayer should be said frequently.
 
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I am not part of the group who believes its only true if Western Scripture says so, Scripture has and is used to prove all kinds of things that are not true. I look at Scripture and how it was interpreted from the people who were closest to the original culture and languages. Many of the early church fathers taught that the millennium is going to be a physical rule of Jesus on the earth for 1000 years, I believe that they are correct. From that I work backwards to " prove" that the pre trib rapture is the only scenario that makes sense of the whole of Scripture. If the Millennium is literal, who is Jesus going to rule over? Paul says that those who remain until Jesus comes back are transformed into our heavenly bodies our glorified bodies, the wicked will be gathered up for judgement. This leaves no one left to go into the Millennium, The Christians will rule with Jesus and the wicked are judged as tares. If Jesus comes and takes the Christians at the fullness of the Gentiles, the world will be judged and all will be left is non believers, that is when the veil is lifted from the Jews and they will see the one they have pierced and many will believe along with the religious people who did not truly follow Jesus. I ask myself if the Church is still here for the Tribulation why would The Father have 144000 Jews be his witness when that's the job of the Church, that's a slap to the face of the Church, and how will they be witnesses while the veil is still on if the fullness of the Gentiles is still no compleet? The two witnesses would have more opposition from the " Christians" than from the world, even now the Church fights more with itself than it does with the world, but if the Church is in heaven with Jesus this is a non issue. For me the only scenario that puts all the puzzle pieces together is this- Jesus comes in the clouds and calls all those who are his home ( Phil 3:20 our citizenship is in heaven} the Church is gone, Jacobs trouble begins the two witnesses and the 144000 Jews are now the Fathers witnesses and all those who follow Jesus and make it through the tribulation go into the Millennium and they are under the rule of Jesus with the help from the glorified saints. This is the only view that I can see that puts all things into place.
If Humans never go to heaven why are we citizens of a place we never go, that makes no sense. What did Jesus mean by in my Fathers house there are many dwelling places and I go there to prepare a place for you, does the Father have another home?
These are the things that I have gleaned from the writings of the early Church fathers and how they understood Scripture.
 
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The three quotes of the OP, do not apply to the Great Tribulation of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls. They specifically say it will be the Lords terrible Day of vengeance and fiery wrath, when we must Call upon His Name. The Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.

Please do not mention a rapture, without giving scriptural support for such a thing.
I note that Revelation 3:10 says: the hour of trial will come upon everyone.......Keeping His faithful people from the dramatic things as described, is by protection, not removal. Isaiah 43:2
Keras, you keep on altering the words of Rev 3:10.

Let's look at Rev 3:10 (NKJV):
Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

Believers are addressed as "you." Jesus said, ... I also will keep you (believers) from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole earth, to test those (unbelievers) who dwell on the earth.

Believers are kept from the Trib. We never enter it.

If you properly kept a young granddaughter away from a vicious dog on someone else's leash, your granddaughter would never have any contact with that vicious dog.

We believers will have no contact with Earth during the Trib. Jesus makes that very clear in Rev 3:10.

Who is referred to as "those who dwell on the earth" during the Trib? The answer is unbelievers. Please read Rev 6:10 and Rev 11:10. The murderers in Rev 6:10) and the hard-core degenerates in Rev 11:10 are unbelievers. It is only they who dwell on the earth during the Trib.
I specifically said and proved that the admonition of the OP, was not for our Salvation, but for the Lords protection, when He sends His fiery wrath upon the earth.
We are saved when we accept the atoning sacrifice of Jesus and make public confirmation of our Christian faith.

We will be protected and kept alive by the Lord on the terrible Day of worldwide disaster, if we pass the test; 1 Peter 4:12, of faith in Him.
The 3 men in the furnace and Psalms 91 are a good examples of how this works.

The sad fact is that so many Christians have no idea of what God has planned for our future. They will be shocked and surprised by the forthcoming Sixth Seal world changer. Luke 21:25-26
I'm convinced that Apostle Paul's use of the words "in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air" in 1 Th 4:17 are about the Judgment Seat of Christ.

That aligns with 2 Tim 4:8's "on that day." That is the day of the rapture.

Judgment in the air is also implied elsewhere in Matt 25:33 and most definitely in the GWTJ in Rev 20:12-13 (after "The earth and the heavens fled from his presence,...").
 
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