Trump threatens 25% tariff on European allies until Denmark sells Greenland to US

Oompa Loompa · Thursday at 12:40 AM

Nithavela said:
Since I refuse to watch those videos, I'm just going to go by the thumbnails and assume that the point you are trying to make is "we can kill you, so we don't actually need you, and you should be grateful to exist under our sufferance."

To which I reply with this:

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And this is much more dignified than what you deserve for such a sentiment.

Well, if you actually watched the videos, you would find that the U.S. does not need NATO for anything. They actually desperately need us. Otherwise, their entire system crumbles. Which is why the reasonable nations are willing to work with Trump. Heck, at the WEF, he pretty much looked at the room and said, "Everyone here has either been liberated by, or defeated by, the United States." For the sake of globalism, you are now too weak to even protect your own backyard. Now, once again, we have to play your bodyguard. But it won't be free, nor will it be cheap. So give us Greenland, and we will take care of the rest, so you can continue to flaunt your social programs because we are flipping the bill for your defense."

7thKeeper · Thursday at 12:44 AM

Landon Caeli said:
Consequences... I mean yeah, if you want to see things negatively. Personally, I prefer not to hold perspectives rooted in negativity.

I'm willing to poke around and find the nuggets of goodness in unexpected places.

Yes, consequences. Markets were tanking, again, and USAs traditional allies have lost fundamental trust in the nation as a whole that is not coming back anytime soon. You have literally gained nothing with this method that you couldn't have otherwise. But you've certainly lost things you otherwise wouldn't have.

Oompa Loompa · Thursday at 12:49 AM

Akita Suggagaki said:
Why does he have to be such a jerk?

Because for decades, the world has taken kindness for weakness. And the U.S. nolonger cares about what Europe thinks when their heads are shoved so far up their "blessings not curses" that they can no longer recognize that they are their own worst enemy.

Oompa Loompa · Thursday at 12:52 AM

Vambram said:
No. It wasn't threatening at all. But, you appear to actually hate Trump so you ain't going to admit something that contradicted your narrative.

They are just repeating what the media told them to think.

Oompa Loompa · Thursday at 12:53 AM

Landon Caeli said:
What is being done, it's a shame, I know - the tens of thousands that have been exterminated by Trump.

...World war 3 is the only logical solution to stop this madness!

Forgive me, but what the heck are you talking about?

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 12:54 AM

7thKeeper said:
Yes, consequences. Markets were tanking, again, and USAs traditional allies have lost fundamental trust in the nation as a whole that is not coming back anytime soon. You have literally gained nothing with this method that you couldn't have otherwise. But you've certainly lost things you otherwise wouldn't have.

Sounds pretty doomy and gloomy. Yikes!

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 12:57 AM

Oompa Loompa said:
Forgive me, but what the heck are you talking about?

Well, they're acting like Trump committed another Holocaust, when all he did was talk.

Lol, "the whole world is not coming back anytime soon" one poster says... Give me a break people, how dramatic!

Oompa Loompa · Thursday at 1:02 AM

Bradskii said:
So...you now know that he's ruled it out. Meaning that you agree that it was at one point an option that he said he had.

Well, he has always been about keeping all cards on the table. Even if a forceful invasion is a card that is far removed from the stack in case of an emergency. The problem is that our European allies are so weak that just having that card still on the table causes them to crumble and concede. Why? Because they brought ir on themselves.

Oompa Loompa · Thursday at 1:08 AM

Landon Caeli said:
Well, they're acting like Trump committed another Holocaust, when all he did was talk.

Lol, "the whole world is not coming back anytime soon" one poster says... Give me a break people, how dramatic!

Complete liberal emotional hyperbole intended to radicalize their voting base. Completely void of actual facts. Mark my words, if Greenland becomes a U.S. state, there would be no bloodshed except by the hardened leftist playing the "useful idiots" in their attempt to oppose Trump.

Bradskii · Thursday at 3:20 AM

Oompa Loompa said:
He threatened tariffs.

And then backed down on that threat. You know this as a fact.

Oompa Loompa said:
So where is all this nonsense about ground forces coming from other than the liberal talking hands in the media that are programming you?

He said he'd take Greenland by any means. And when asked, he refused to rule out using force. So it has been an option.

Why on earth are you denying this? It's common knowledge. It's not opinion, it's the facts of the matter. Why on earth do you think that people were concerned about the possibility of the end of NATO? What purpose does it serve you to deny all this? I really can't understand what you are doing.

Bradskii · Thursday at 3:39 AM

Oompa Loompa said:
Well, he has always been about keeping all cards on the table. Even if a forceful invasion is a card that is far removed from the stack in case of an emergency. The problem is that our European allies are so weak that just having that card still on the table causes them to crumble and concede. Why? Because they brought ir on themselves.

This is just crazy....

You just posted asking where all this talk about ground forces was coming from. After previously admitting that he'd ruled it out, thereby conceding that it needed to be an option in order to rule it out!

Now, literally referring to that option, you again admit he's been keeping all cards on the table, 'in case of an emergency'. So where is all this talk about it coming from? Well, you are reading the same news as I am, because you knew it was an option. So you already know that.

And what in heaven's name are you on about saying that your allies 'crumble and concede'? What allies have crumbled? Which ones have conceded? And what have they conceded? Trump has only spoken to a NATO leader about what Trump describes as 'a concept of a plan'. You have literally no idea what he's talking about and I strongly suggest that he doesn't either.

But what has crumbled is Trump's veiled threat to use force. What has been conceded is his threatened tariffs.

Oompa Loompa · Thursday at 8:24 AM

Bradskii said:
And then backed down on that threat. You know this as a fact.

He no longer felt the threat was necessary because the threat accomplished what he wanted, a seat at the negotiation table. The texts from the PM of Finland proved it and even Italy is willing to help facilitate it. So who actually backed down?

mindlight · Thursday at 8:24 AM

Vambram said:
Your anti-Trump analysis is wrong.

If Trump splits NATO by annexing Greenland, then he loses the current NATO advantages in the Atlantic gap. He can attempt to counter this by deploying extra naval assets to make up for the lost NATO assets but these would no longer have the land anchors of UK and Norway thus America will be more vulnerable. Thus he opens an alternate route to the one from Greenland for an attack on the USA and increases the cost of US defence at the same time. Building Golden Dome, with Greenland as a part of it, will not counter the threat of a Tsunami bomb in the North Atlantic. Your just saying no does not refute this fact and is a matter of wishful thinking.

Akita Suggagaki · Thursday at 8:40 AM

Oompa Loompa said:
Because for decades, the world has taken kindness for weakness. And the U.S. nolonger cares about what Europe thinks when their heads are shoved so far up their "blessings not curses" that they can no longer recognize that they are their own worst enemy.

So now you think they will take this childish buffoonery as strength?

wing2000 · Thursday at 10:11 AM

Oompa Loompa said:
He no longer felt the threat was necessary because the threat accomplished what he wanted, a seat at the negotiation table. The texts from the PM of Finland proved it and even Italy is willing to help facilitate it. So who actually backed down?

The POTUS has had a seat at the negotiating table since the end of WW2.

And facilitate what?

wing2000 · Thursday at 10:21 AM

Fact:

A 1951 agreement between the United States and Denmark established the U.S. right to construct military bases in Greenland and move around freely in Greenlandic territory. This is still the case as long as Denmark and Greenland are informed of its actions.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/trumps-greenland-climbdown-triggers-relief-way-forward-unclear-2026-01-22/

wing2000 · Thursday at 10:24 AM

Gene2memE said:
...Threats.

There's a yawning difference (in both interpersonal discussions and geopolitics) between 'I would like this', 'I think I'm entitled to this' and 'I'm going to take this by force, whether you like it or not' or 'If you don't give me this, I'll use physical force against you'.

The latter fundamentally change how a relationship works.

....and using coercion as negotiating tactic with our allies will have long term consequences on our relationships going forward.

Of course, some of our MAGA participants are under the false belief that the US is stronger without our friends.

RocksInMyHead · Thursday at 10:38 AM

Vambram said:
The Secretary of NATO, as well as the nations in the 8 peace deals that President Trump made, strongly disagree with the assertions of the anti-Trump people that President Trump has ruined foreign relationships.

Of course they're not going to tell the unstable guy with a huge military and nuclear weapons that he's damaging his country's relationship with them. But we can still observe the way that countries are responding to Trump and America in general, and compare that to the past. There is no question that America's relationship with the rest of the world has been damaged significantly by Trump. Perhaps it will not be permanent - we'll see what happens in three years, after his term is up - but unless there are significant changes in our national attitude and/or our electoral system, they're always going to have to operate with the idea that another Trump-like leader could assume the presidency in the future.

For example: https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...es-despite-trump-u-turn-greenland-2026-01-22/

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 10:40 AM

wing2000 said:
....and using coercion as negotiating tactic with our allies will have long term consequences on our relationships going forward.

I don't think that's true. if a Democrat like Gavin Newsom were elected president next, I don't think anyone will see him, or the U.S as coersive anymore.

We can make this look scarier than it is, by using hyperbole, but that's not realistic.

Oompa Loompa · Thursday at 11:03 AM

wing2000 said:
The POTUS has had a seat at the negotiating table since the end of WW2.

And facilitate what?

Listen, NATO only exists because of the U.S.. This goes all the way back to the the Marshal plan in which the U.S. practically rebuilt Europe under the umbrella protection of the U.S. after WWII. Since then, Europe has been complacent in their defense because NATO just assumed that we were just always going to cover their [blessings not curses] every time they started something. So Trump make a speech and reminded the entire western world that in the last 100 years, we have either liberated you or defeated you. Furthermore, we have invested 22 Trillion dollars since 1980 to protect you and have gotten little to nothing in return. Because of their self-imposed domestic issues, our NATO allies are not even capable of protecting their borders from a Muslim invasion. The only exception is Poland. Bottom line, NATO just got blasted in the face with a stark reminder as to why the U.S. does not enjoy the luxury of universal Healthcare, and it is because we are militarily covering their butts.

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