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Protestors disrupt Minnesota worship service

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I haven't looked around. I'm not on any of the "traditional social media". Most are frankly too big.

I tracked some fool's pseudoscience nonsense here and it seemed like a nice place.

I could ask a similar question. I've been Minneapolis and to Basel and I know they are in different countries.
I will just say that whatever your reasons for being on a Christian forum, you are welcome and have a right to be here.
 
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Not "Whataboutism". Pointing out an inconsistency.
If the call for punishment for the disruptive of the eucharist is "they broke federal law", then the argument applies to all people who break or broke federal law. Otherwise there is an inconsistency and a double standard.
Little old ladies have been arrested for far less. Like praying in front of an abortion clinic. So, if we want to talk about inconsistencies, why not start with that?
 
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Yeah, some pastors have very small congregations so they have to supplement their income by working an additional job or jobs. Especially if they have a family.
Paul was a tent maker and Jesus was a carpenter.
 
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This is not true, please read the article again. ICE neither entered the church nor interrupted the service but prompted one of its attendant to leave the church service by making his ankle monitor beeping, and then he was arrested outside the church. Do you really mean to put this incident on the same level with the disruption of the other church by the protestors ?!?


How do you know the personal opinion this pastor had about the former incident? It looks like to me a wild assumption to think that any member of ICE could only agree to all actions that were made by all ICE members, including any excessive actions.


Who said here that it is OK to shoot in the face of a pastor that is standing still and protesting, but not breaking any law nor being disobedient to the authorities? For my side I won't judge such cases, when I don't know the full picture and when there are a lot of biased reports.
I remember police interrupting many church services during Covid. Liberals did not seem to complain about that.
 
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Matthew 5:40-44; Luke 6:29


This is a multi-forum board. There more sections than not where Christians do not have to interact with non-Christians, if that's your preference.
Respectfully, your scripture references are taken out of context and are not applicable to the situation. Nor did it answer the poster's question.
 
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Respectfully, your scripture references are taken out of context and are not applicable to the situation. Nor did it answer the poster's question.
I think as well that the biblical context didn't involve breaking the law, and even that some people could be sometimes enjoying a lawful privilege to do something detrimental to you, such as taking some of your goods.
 
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Respectfully, your scripture references are taken out of context and are not applicable to the situation. Nor did it answer the poster's question.

Her first quote was not about breaking any law but, going beyond the law.

Her second quote was about rebuke, if a righteous strikes (rebukes) you on the cheek, then turn the other to recieve more.

Worrying about the law leads to legalism, how far can I go and still be within the law.
 
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Her first quote was not about breaking any law but, going beyond the law.

Her second quote was about rebuke, if a righteous strikes (rebukes) you on the cheek, then turn the other to recieve more.

Worrying about the law leads to legalism, how far can I go and still be within the law.

Having someone rebuke you can feel lik a slap in the face, but it should not be done to embarrass, but more an attempt to
prevent him from sinning.
 
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Having someone rebuke you can feel lik a slap in the face, but it should not be done to embarrass, but more an attempt to
prevent him from sinning.

Compare with what King David says in Psalms 141:5
 
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Her first quote was not about breaking any law but, going beyond the law.

Her second quote was about rebuke, if a righteous strikes (rebukes) you on the cheek, then turn the other to recieve more.

Worrying about the law leads to legalism, how far can I go and still be within the law.
The first passage does not give license to harbor criminals. That is a crime. The second is about religious persecution. Not being a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].
 
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The first passage does not give license to harbor criminals. That is a crime. The second is about religious persecution. Not being a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].

Phew!
 
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Ezekiel 18:5, and the chapter out.
If I haven’t eaten on the mountain, worshiped idols, committed adultery, or approached a woman on her menstrual cycle then I can slap you?
 
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If I haven’t eaten on the mountain, worshiped idols, committed adultery, or approached a woman on her menstrual cycle then I can slap you?

It is in present tense, what one has done before is done but the whole idea is that we reform ourselves.

Take your time, read and recite out loud.
 
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It is in present tense, what one has done before is done but the whole idea is that we reform ourselves.

Take your time, read and recite out loud.
If anyone considers themselves righteous they probably are not. Pride cometh before the fall
 
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Respectfully, your scripture references are taken out of context and are not applicable to the situation. Nor did it answer the poster's question.
"Where does jesus tell us to allow people to break the law and steal from us?"
Jesus is usually capitalized. My understanding is that stealing is breaking the law. I gave the passages where Jesus said to not only allow the cloak thief to steal but throw in a shirt to boot. Imo, the given passages answer that question directly, plain reading.
 
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If anyone considers themselves righteous they probably are not. Pride cometh before the fall

Yes most probably, but but consider something from Rabbi Yosef Yitzchak Schneersohn, of righteous memory.

"Do good without reason, then there are no traps. you don`t need your ego`s approval to do something good."
 
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