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Ezekiel 39 validates that the 70th week is still unfulfilled. The 7 years are in Ezekiel 39:9 that will follow the Gog/Magog event.
The false prophet is the false prophet, not the Antichrist.
Consider thinking of the stages the person will go through as similar to this....
No, I understand there are differences of opinion on who the 2 Beasts are. But for the purpose of answering my questions, this is irrelevant.
You answered *zero* questions that I asked. You blew them off due to an irrelevant point. So our discussion has come to an end.
Walter Martin said something very wise many years ago that I never forgot. He said something like, "God doesn't stutter, and He doesn't lisp--when He wants to tell us something He will say it clearly and without confusion."
Randy, you are not addressing the content/verses of Ezekiel 39 themselves.
I think I already did. No matter if the Eze 38-39 time frame is the same as Armageddon, it doesn't make the 7 years the same as an imaginary 7 year Tribulation. I already admitted that Gog may even be the Antichrist--I don't know! So that isn't an issue. The time frame between Revelation and the Battle of Gog may be the same. The bird feast may be the same...or not--it doesn't matter.
Randy, Gog is not the Antichrist, but the leader of the most powerful component of the Gog/Magog alliance. i.e. the leader of Russia.
Randy, you are making a misleading terminology statement by calling the 7 year 70th week as "Tribulation".
As I said, I'm not sure if Gog is the Antichrist or not. Both Gog and Antichrist come out of the European culture. Roman Civilization stretches from the Americas to Russia, encompassing much of the earth. Russia also includes a large portion of Asia, but it is also based in Europe and has represented rule in the eastern part of Europe.
Gog's destruction uses language that can be construed as the very end of the age. Israel is liberated, never again to be abused. This indicates the end of the age for me.
I addressed it by saying that there is no explicit correlation between the 7 years of "cleansing the land" and the so-called 7 years of the "Tribulation." And I added that there is no 7 years of Tribulation at all in the book of Revelation.
The 7 years of "cleansing the land" in Eze 39.9 certainly follows the destruction of Gog's army. But I believe this takes place in the Millennium. That is, Christ comes back to destroy Gog and then the survivors in Israel will have to cleanse their land over a period of 7 years. This is hardly the so-called "Tribulation Period," which does not even exist as a 7 year period in the book of Revelation.
Birds that scavenge do so after every big battle in which massive numbers of bodies lay scattered across the landscape. I should think these birds begin to devour flesh immediately after the battle of Armageddon, and not wait 7 years to begin "scavenging."
Or, you simply make dogmatic assertions to contradict them without dealing with the points at all.
You are not citing the correct verse, nor the correct time frame for cleansing the land.
Right. The 7 months was the actual cleansing. The 7 years was using the debris for fuel. I was sort of rolling the two distinct periods into one.
You wrote...... "The 7 years of "cleansing the land" in Eze 39.9 certainly follows the destruction of Gog's army."
Yes, I went back and admitted that. Post #34. But you're picking on a largely-irrelevant issue and diverting from the main points I was making. No answer?
No of course not. But I think Christ and Paul want to warn us about not expecting him to arrive first. Satan and his will arrive before that. And that's what one has to be prepared for mentally and have that full gospel armor on to be able to stand in "the evil day" if it should happen in one's lifetime. As Christians, no one's perfect but we should have our morals in place for sure that goes without saying but I think his and Paul's warnings go deeper than that or they would not have told us to not be deceived by any means on the subject of his return. Deception is the key point both are making to start with.
I have not, and do not, use the phrase 3.5 years, nor 3 1/2 years because that term is not found in the bible.
I 100% agree with you. The sign of false Christs and false prophets were what Christ was warning his disciples about because they would come first. His own Coming was not the concern, time-wise, because one could prepare for that at any time simply by exercising due dilligence with respect to preparing for the Kingdom.
I 100% agree with you. Lack of preparation for Christ's Kingdom comes from not really believing in Christ's Kingdom. If one doesn't take it seriously then he or she will live a morally-reckless life, not fearing punishment. It is not maintaining eternal vigilance for some prophetic development to somehow give us advance warning. True preparation requires internal, spiritual preparation that leads to living a moral life.
People don't want to believe that they have no control over what chaos can erupt in their lives. They think they can simply read the tea leaves and leave an area before it gets tough. They are not going to get "tipped off" in that way.
