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Protestors disrupt Minnesota worship service

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Where is the hypocrisy? Where does jesus tell us to allow people to break the law and steal from us?
Matthew 5:40-44; Luke 6:29

OK, but why not doing that in a secular forum? There must be plenty of secular forums where people discuss American politics and current events. What attracts you to a Christian forum?
This is a multi-forum board. There more sections than not where Christians do not have to interact with non-Christians, if that's your preference.
 
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This is a multi-forum board. There more sections than not where Christians do not have to interact with non-Christians, if that's your preference.
I understand that, but as I wrote, I would expect that the non-Christians shouldn't mind to much if there are some Bible verses quoted in the discussion. If they dislike that, they are going to have a hard time here, I think.
 
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Matthew 5:40-44; Luke 6:29


This is a multi-forum board. There more sections than not where Christians do not have to interact with non-Christians, if that's your preference.

I wish our country was run like CF. It's proper to know who the godless hell bound people are.
 
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I understand that, but as I wrote, I would expect that the non-Christians shouldn't mind to much if there are some Bible verses quoted in the discussion. If they dislike that, they are going to have a hard time here, I think.
Aw, how thoughtful for a sweet summer child of a forum member to be lecturing those that have been here nearly a decade or two on what to expect and what they should or shouldn't mind. It might behoove you to read up on the forum rules, if you care about contributing. I hope your sojourn here is long and fruitful. :wave:
 
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I understand that, but as I wrote, I would expect that the non-Christians shouldn't mind to much if there are some Bible verses quoted in the discussion. If they dislike that, they are going to have a hard time here, I think.
I was only pointing out that I ignore the quotes. A reminder that making arguments outside theology debates based entirely on bible quotes isn't particularly convincing to many people (including some Christians). I've been reading this forum for a decade.
 
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Aw, how thoughtful for a sweet summer child of a forum member to be lecturing those that have been here nearly a decade or two on what to expect and what they should or shouldn't mind. It might behoove you to read up on the forum rules, if you care about contributing. I hope your sojourn here is long and fruitful. :wave:
I don't know why you think that I am lecturing people, as I simply expressed my wonder that there were people here that don't like to read Bible verses, but still be there reading these posts that contain them. Hans Blaster gave me afterwards an explication that satisfied me, as for his reasons to be participating on such discussions even if he didn't like the Bible verses in them, so I really don't know, why we are still discussing at length about the matter!
 
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Aw, how thoughtful for a sweet summer child of a forum member to be lecturing those that have been here nearly a decade or two on what to expect and what they should or shouldn't mind. It might behoove you to read up on the forum rules, if you care about contributing. I hope your sojourn here is long and fruitful. :wave:
I was only pointing out that I ignore the quotes. A reminder that making arguments outside theology debates based entirely on bible quotes isn't particularly convincing to many people (including some Christians). I've been reading this forum for a decade.

And yooz both n00bs!
 
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That's true, but if someone has a disgust of the Bible as he has, I was wondering why he imposes himself discussing in a Christian forum.
This section of the forum is open to non Christians. That’s why you find non Christians here in this part of the website.
 
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IMO, Outside protestors, regardless of their cause, should respect places of worship. Disrupting a church service is not an effective way to get your message across.
This.

I fully support anyone’s right to protest whatever group or organization they feel deserves to be called out and protested against but I don’t agree with forcing your way into buildings or places of worship and terrorizing people who have nothing to do with the object of your protest.

Tensions are very high at the moment and rightly so and there’s no calm to be expected from our national leadership who are more interested in throwing more fuel onto the fire. People need to be smarter about how they are going about protesting and standing up for their fellow Americans because this administration has no problem with their agents killing anyone who stands in their way and then labeling them a terrorist who deserved what they got.
 
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I haven't looked around. I'm not on any of the "traditional social media". Most are frankly too big.

I tracked some fool's pseudoscience nonsense here and it seemed like a nice place.

I could ask a similar question. I've been Minneapolis and to Basel and I know they are in different countries.
I will just say that whatever your reasons for being on a Christian forum, you are welcome and have a right to be here.
 
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Not "Whataboutism". Pointing out an inconsistency.
If the call for punishment for the disruptive of the eucharist is "they broke federal law", then the argument applies to all people who break or broke federal law. Otherwise there is an inconsistency and a double standard.
Little old ladies have been arrested for far less. Like praying in front of an abortion clinic. So, if we want to talk about inconsistencies, why not start with that?
 
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Yeah, some pastors have very small congregations so they have to supplement their income by working an additional job or jobs. Especially if they have a family.
Paul was a tent maker and Jesus was a carpenter.
 
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This is not true, please read the article again. ICE neither entered the church nor interrupted the service but prompted one of its attendant to leave the church service by making his ankle monitor beeping, and then he was arrested outside the church. Do you really mean to put this incident on the same level with the disruption of the other church by the protestors ?!?


How do you know the personal opinion this pastor had about the former incident? It looks like to me a wild assumption to think that any member of ICE could only agree to all actions that were made by all ICE members, including any excessive actions.


Who said here that it is OK to shoot in the face of a pastor that is standing still and protesting, but not breaking any law nor being disobedient to the authorities? For my side I won't judge such cases, when I don't know the full picture and when there are a lot of biased reports.
I remember police interrupting many church services during Covid. Liberals did not seem to complain about that.
 
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Matthew 5:40-44; Luke 6:29


This is a multi-forum board. There more sections than not where Christians do not have to interact with non-Christians, if that's your preference.
Respectfully, your scripture references are taken out of context and are not applicable to the situation. Nor did it answer the poster's question.
 
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Respectfully, your scripture references are taken out of context and are not applicable to the situation. Nor did it answer the poster's question.
I think as well that the biblical context didn't involve breaking the law, and even that some people could be sometimes enjoying a lawful privilege to do something detrimental to you, such as taking some of your goods.
 
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Respectfully, your scripture references are taken out of context and are not applicable to the situation. Nor did it answer the poster's question.

Her first quote was not about breaking any law but, going beyond the law.

Her second quote was about rebuke, if a righteous strikes (rebukes) you on the cheek, then turn the other to recieve more.

Worrying about the law leads to legalism, how far can I go and still be within the law.
 
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Her first quote was not about breaking any law but, going beyond the law.

Her second quote was about rebuke, if a righteous strikes (rebukes) you on the cheek, then turn the other to recieve more.

Worrying about the law leads to legalism, how far can I go and still be within the law.

Having someone rebuke you can feel lik a slap in the face, but it should not be done to embarrass, but more an attempt to
prevent him from sinning.
 
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