Extreme cost and difficulty of exploitation.
Everything Trump says and thinks about Greenland depends on climate change being real.
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President Trump renews push for Greenland, citing U.S. national security needs
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Everything Trump says and thinks about Greenland depends on climate change being real.
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Some analysts point out that interest in Greenland is connected to changes happening in the Arctic. As the region warms, new shipping routes and resource access open up, which increases its strategic value. That’s the context behind the claim being made.
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I understand that.
The irony is that Trump himself asserts climate change is a hoax.
Or...maybe not ironic. If his real plan is to get control of Greenland for the economic advantage of his cronies, then it would make diabolical sense to convince his base that climate change is a hoax and stop all international efforts to prevent climate change.
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The GIUK Gap requires neither; likely the sea floor there is well mapped. And cryolite's been mine there since at least WWII and likely before. Greenland is a little larger than three and a third Texases, with about two and a half Texases of ice sheet. That's an area the third of Texas that's ice-free. That's an area of about 2/3 of Texas, or a little bit smaller than North Carolina.
It was enough that the Chinese had some interest there, all without clearing away the ice sheet. Building an airport, too. Interesting thing, that.
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There's nothing new about the GIUK Gap. That has always been used by the Russians (as best they can). That's the route of their northern fleet into the Atlantic. Always has been. Nothing new or startling or suddenly threatening about that.
Are you claiming the Chinese are building an airport on Greenland?
They are not.
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Analysts don’t claim to know his private motives, but they usually point to a consistent public pattern. His style leans toward bold, attention‑grabbing ideas that signal disruption and challenge long‑standing norms. Supporters see that as shaking up a system they think is outdated, while critics interpret it differently. So instead of assuming a hidden motive, most analysis frames it as political messaging and brand‑building rather than a literal plan.
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The Greenlanders themselves admit that they still need outside subsidies. There are so few of them and their productivity is so low it is not clear how important their voice is here. If they had what it took to be a country then they would be one by now. Denmark would not stop them. The real issue is whether Trump should be allowed to split NATO over this. This is a clear and present danger to the USAs strategic position in the world.
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About 2018 or so, China reps showed up in Greenland to discuss mining and building an airport. Denmark looked at Greenland and said “What are you doing?” And that ended that - for now. Bottom line whether or not China ever mines or builds an airport on Greenland is something Denmark controls, not the US. Denmark could just as easily change its mind. Just as we could easily lose monitoring of that portion of the GIUK gap.
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So, it's your fantasy, then, that you're talking about as though it's a thing already done.
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I would think the main focus is simply the influence that comes with being part of a well‑known political family. People in many places naturally try to build relationships with families who have long-standing connections, because they believe it helps them navigate complicated government processes more easily. As for past administrations, there have been long-running public discussions about how political families use their networks, but the details and interpretations depend on which sources someone follows.
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Both Greenland and Alaska have Indigenous peoples who maintain distinct communities, cultures, and traditions, but the structure of those communities is not identical.
In Greenland, the Inuit make up the majority of the population and are spread across many small coastal towns and settlements. These communities are culturally cohesive and historically rooted, shaped by thousands of years of Inuit presence.
In Alaska, Native communities also exist, but they are minority populations within a much larger and more diverse state. Alaska Native villages can be very remote and culturally distinct, but they exist within a broader population where Indigenous people are a smaller share
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lol wut? No, that is absolutely not what they do. Leaders at that level (in business or government) tend to be very careful about what they say in public because people will tease it apart and act on it.
Trump never developed that skill because his business is privately held and not especially large (by corporate standards), so there weren't tens or hundreds of thousands of people hanging on his every word. He could just run his mouth without consequence.
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It's what CEO's of large businesses do, I've seen it. They need to know the market reaction before they make a decision. I fact,
many will order their marketing departments to survey their customers.
Trump was never a politician, but a businessman who's customers were in the public sphere. He is not polished
with his words like career politicians are.
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Oh? Which CEO's and in what circumstances?
Focus-group testing of ideas by the marketing department is not remotely similar to the CEO making public statements just to see how they fly.
Right, because, again, he didn't have that accountability - to voters or shareholders. He owned his business and could say whatever he wanted.
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To "...order their marketing departments to survey their customers" is on the other side of the planet from "... just floats the idea to see how it will be accepted or rejected by the population."
The marketing department knows exactly how to phrase, how to disguise, and with what chosen market sample to float an idea without it reflecting negatively on the company.
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They like the way they're living now. They don't necessarily want their land ravaged by resource exploiters.
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The places where I was employed, DEC, Quantum, etc.
CEO's have accountability to their customers by not making their business successful.
In Trump's case, the people would've walked away with their wallets if Trump didn't
make the business attractive.
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