Trump threatens 25% tariff on European allies until Denmark sells Greenland to US

Desk trauma · Sunday at 2:17 PM

Landon Caeli said:
I feel like Greenland needs support to survive. I feel like the United States is far more capable of filling that role than Denmark is.

In what way is Denmark not supporting the people of Greenland, how would the US do a better job and why is it worth upsetting the international order to do so?

lismore · Sunday at 2:19 PM

I think it's very unlikely that Denmark will be pressured into handing over Greenland. I would expect some sort of collective push back from the European Union to be the next step. A Federal Europe may be on the cards. Kind Regards.

Bradskii · Sunday at 2:19 PM

Landon Caeli said:
Do you think Greenland is capable of supporting itself independently? My understanding is that it would require jumping many difficul6 hurdles to do so. Economically, it seems highly unlikely to be successful.

It's not your decision to make. They will do what they choose to do as they see fit. I'm sure they'll get all the help they want from friendly nations.

At the moment you are excluded from that group because the guy sitting behind the Resolute desk is making monstrously idiotic decisions and rejecting the very concept of liberty and self determination. Which, it has to be said, you are supporting.

lismore · Sunday at 2:22 PM

Robban said:
The way out is abandon the baseless hate for Russia, also to act in a sensible manner.

Hello! I don't think many people have a hatred for Russia, baseless or otherwise. I have been to Russia, fine people. We helped Russia when Communism collapsed. But many people do have a distrust for Putin and rightly so. His actions show him to be untrustworthy. Russia and the world would benefit from new and reasonable leadership in the Kremlin. Kind Regards.

Bradskii · Sunday at 2:23 PM

Landon Caeli said:
As to your question on some other government taking over the U.S., it would depend on a lot of things, whether I would be OK with it or not.

Ah. So you'd make the decision as to whether you would find it acceptable.

That seems reasonable. Now you just have to extend that courtesy to others.

loveofourlord · Sunday at 2:25 PM

durangodawood said:
We captured Venezuela oil precisely so we could make our own Legos from it.

okay....now I'm fully in on taking over Venezeula and and greenland if it means not paying the marvel tax and other costly lego bricks!.

Laodicean60 · Sunday at 2:28 PM

Bradskii said:
I'd like to think that any suggestion to 'take over Greenland' would be rejected out of hand as being completely immoral. As opposed to 'Gee, we shouldn't do it because it'll cost too much'.

I wasn't aware that morality was dependent on an associated dollar cost.

Nope, not me i see morality differently. My morality lies with Americans and our survival. If our NATO ~~allies~~ are unable to secure the north, the USA will. NATO forces will have to build up a navy because, as it stands, they won't win against Russia's northern fleet. Is Australia's navy ready for China?

dogs4thewin · Sunday at 2:28 PM

Landon Caeli said:
Do you think Greenland is capable of supporting itself independently? My understanding is that it would require jumping many difficult hurdles to do so. Economically, it seems highly unlikely to be successful.

I feel like Greenland needs support to survive. I feel like the United States is far more capable of filling that role than Denmark is.

We need to be real about this, rather than purely emotional. It's a bummer that they have difficult living conditions, and a lacking population, but things are the way they are.

The problem is they do not WANT the US there. Even if you said they could not be independent sure that may be a reasonable point , but still if they would whether have Denmark and Denmark does not want to sell them then we need to leave it alone.

Landon Caeli · Sunday at 2:29 PM

Desk trauma said:
In what way is Denmark not supporting the people of Greenland, how would the US do a better job and why is it worth upsetting the international order to do so?

Denmark isn't helping create mining jobs for the locals. Halibut exports aren't being optimized.

...The United States would help facilitate this, which would improve the lives of Greenlanders.

dogs4thewin · Sunday at 2:32 PM

Laodicean60 said:
Nope, not me i see morality differently. My morality lies with Americans and our survival. If our NATO ~~allies~~ are unable to secure the north, the USA will. NATO forces will have to build up a navy because, as it stands, they won't win against Russia's northern fleet. Is Australia's navy ready for China?

What if NATO joins forces against us and/or stops trading with us and/or does not allow United States citizens visas? There are a LOT of things NATO could do to make life very hard for the United States.

dogs4thewin · Sunday at 2:33 PM

Landon Caeli said:
Denmark isn't helping create mining jobs for the locals. Halibut exports aren't being optimized.

...The United States would help facilitate this, which would improve the lives of Greenlanders.

to be fair minding would end at some point anyway this world needs to use renewable resources.

Desk trauma · Sunday at 2:35 PM

Landon Caeli said:
Denmark isn't helping create mining jobs for the locals. Halibut exports aren't being optimized.

...The United States would help facilitate this, which would improve the lives of Greenlanders.

It's worth derailing trade and international order to optimize mining and fisheries in Greenland?

loveofourlord · Sunday at 2:37 PM

Desk trauma said:
It's worth derailing trade and international order to optimize mining and fisheries in Greenland?

plus we all know greenland would see little benefit from that, and just be the US taking what they want.

Bradskii · Sunday at 2:37 PM

Laodicean60 said:
Nope, not me i see morality differently.

That is plain enough for all to see.

durangodawood · Sunday at 2:38 PM

This whole thing of antagonizing our best allies really bothers the heck out of me.

Laodicean60 · Sunday at 2:39 PM

Robban said:
The EU has nowhere to run, stupidly cutting of reliable energy supply from Russia and relying on expensive supply from USA.

Angela Merkel warned about NATO expansion because she was securing energy from Russia. I remember the surrender flag thing by Trump. Now you are correct because of the energy they are losing in manufacturing.

Laodicean60 · Sunday at 2:40 PM

durangodawood said:
This whole thing of antagonizing our best allies really bothers the heck out of me.

Name some of our best allies

Landon Caeli · Sunday at 2:41 PM

Desk trauma said:
It's worth derailing trade and international order to optimize mining and fisheries in Greenland?

I'll never understand why people stand around with their hands in their pockets, and complain about other's.

Unproductive people, who thrive off of obstructing everyone else's productivity.

...But I guess I'm a bad man for not being more emotional.

Laodicean60 · Sunday at 2:42 PM

Bradskii said:
That is plain enough for all to see.

Ok, ok, Mr. Morality.

loveofourlord · Sunday at 2:43 PM

durangodawood said:
This whole thing of antagonizing our best allies really bothers the heck out of me.

Maybe it's the country version of making fun of the girl you like and about that age appropriate behavour.

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