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TWO Protesters blinded, one's skull fractured by DHS agent during Santa Ana demonstration; agent fired nonlethal round at close range to the face
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Larniavc
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Anything but blame the heavy handed thugs disappearing or killing or maiming brown people.
And certainly not the people behind the American secret police.
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Even in the UK, they grab, and because you don't shoot, they'll continue to face assaults. Boy, I'd hate to be a policeman in the UK, wondering if this day will be the day I'll be assaulted.
" 1. Recorded assaults on officers (indicating exposure to violence)
In England and Wales, there were 40,330 recorded assaults on police officers (with and without injury) in the year ending March 2023. These figures show how often officers encounter violent incidents on duty.
2. Direct absence due to assault (local force data)
Some individual forces do report absences specifically linked to assaults:
For example, West Yorkshire Police data showed small numbers of officers needing sick leave after an assault on duty in recent years (e.g., 30 in 2022, 9 in 2023 to August alone).
West Midlands Police FOI figures indicated that there were hundreds of absence cases related to assault reasons in some years, though numbers vary by reporting method.
3. Overall sickness absence in police forces
Home Office workforce data (for England & Wales) does not break absence down by cause, but shows:
6,305 full-time-equivalent police officers were on long-term absence as of 31 March 2025 — about 4.3% of all officers.
These absences include all sickness reasons, parental leave, career breaks, etc.
4. Mental health and stress-related absences linked to job pressures
POLFED (Police Federation of England & Wales) figures and reporting indicate:
More than 14,500 officers were signed off from work for stress, anxiety, depression or PTSD in 2023–24, a trend linked to job pressures including exposure to violence and traumatic incidents.
Over the past three years, UK forces logged 65,000 staff absences due to mental health issues."
#4 is the one I'm afraid of in America because every human has a boiling point. To hear hate speech and see an unruly mob every day, not just when something makes the news, they live this life every day, not like us, who get a headline now and then.
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In the UK since 1970 69 police officers have been killed in the line of duty.
Do you know the comparable statistic for the war zone that is America?
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There was 25% less war zone in 2025. (FWIW US population is about 5x the UK's.)
The number of law enforcement professionals nationwide who died in 2025 decreased 25% compared to the same time period last year, according to preliminary data provided by the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund (NLEOMF).The NLEOMF data shows that 111 federal, state, county, municipal, and U.S. Territories officers died in the line of duty in 2025, representing a 25% decrease compared to the 148 officers who died in 2024.
This goes back a bit further than 1970, but...
There are currently more than 24,000 names of officers killed in the line of duty inscribed on the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial in Washington, DC, dating back to the first known death in 1786.
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So, the wild west and definitely cops protected themselves back then. When being grabbed in the UK, you are at the mercy of the mob, especially if the mob has better weapons. I see your people use the same weapons as we do.
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For the record, I agree with you and your spot on. Human behavior is far too complicated to blame violent criminals for their behavior on lack of discipline IMO
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He was trained to not walk in front of a vehicle. So, he cause the murder of the female. Also, she was waving cars to get through.
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Shooting someone in the face or head with a less lethal munition is deadly force. Which means, he can't do that unless faced with deadly force. Which means force that is likely to cause serious bodily injury or death.
I have no idea what was being done to him or his fellow officers that caused him to shoot at the person. I can't make a call yet on this.
But I will say that I do not believe anyone was taunting this person about losing their eye. I do not trust the protesters to give an accurate account. And quite frankly I don't trust the leadership to give one either. I really wish they would just say they can't comment on an ongoing investigation and once it is completed they will make a statement.
I know agencies have released footage of body cams etc. And I don't really have an issue with that. It's just that they shouldn't make definitive statements until its been investigated. They could say, "preliminary evidence shows..., but we cannot provide a definitive statement at this time becauae the investigation is not complete."
Cause this definitely could be unlawful force. Preliminary evidence shows protestors were throwing traffic cones at officers and he fired non-lethal rounds which struck a protestor in the face. There have been some accusations that rocks and frozen water bottles were thrown at the agents. But this is not a definitive statement because we do not have all the facts in yet and the investigation is not complete. So I am withholding judgement until we know more.
I have no idea what was being done to him or his fellow officers that caused him to shoot at the person. I can't make a call yet on this.
But I will say that I do not believe anyone was taunting this person about losing their eye. I do not trust the protesters to give an accurate account. And quite frankly I don't trust the leadership to give one either. I really wish they would just say they can't comment on an ongoing investigation and once it is completed they will make a statement.
I know agencies have released footage of body cams etc. And I don't really have an issue with that. It's just that they shouldn't make definitive statements until its been investigated. They could say, "preliminary evidence shows..., but we cannot provide a definitive statement at this time becauae the investigation is not complete."
Cause this definitely could be unlawful force. Preliminary evidence shows protestors were throwing traffic cones at officers and he fired non-lethal rounds which struck a protestor in the face. There have been some accusations that rocks and frozen water bottles were thrown at the agents. But this is not a definitive statement because we do not have all the facts in yet and the investigation is not complete. So I am withholding judgement until we know more.
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Yes, I'm referring to the incident referenced in the thread subject.
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