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Unfortunately, I think I have been eating meat so long though that its difficult to wean my body completely off of it. I actually did try going full vegetarian once, but I felt so listless and lightheaded that I ate some meat and felt instantly better. See? My body is still so dependent on meat that when I don't eat it, I get bad side effects. :(

So how did you guys go full vegetarian? How did you successfully wean your body off of meat without feeling bad? I would like to know how to do it.

I struggled with it for many years, until I figured out that I needed to replace the meals I was accustomed to eating with meals that I would enjoy. The reason I failed was because I found meat to be more tasty, and I knew meat. I knew what tasted good and how to get the most out of meat preparation. I had to figure out the same thing, but with vegetarian alternatives. I replaced a number of my favorite meals with vegetarian versions. It took some time, but I started adding vegetarian dishes to my "meal plan". I say meal plan, but I had no real plan other than some dishes I knew I loved and enjoyed on a regular basis.

For me, the huge one to remove from my diet was hamburgers. I loved hamburgers. I also grew up eating hamburger in everything. Hamburger Helper, spaghetti sauce, chili, sloppy joe, stroganoff. You name it, it most likely had hamburger in it, because it was cheap. Also chicken, and tuna. My mother made tuna patties because salmon was too expensive.

Years before I decided to go vegetarian I quit dairy. I started buying soy milk. I got used to it fairly quickly. I switched to other milks like oat and almond. I mostly use almond milk now.

The first thing to understand is that your taste buds crave the foods you eat now, which makes it difficult to switch. It takes time. Switching a diet can be a slow process, because you are still craving the foods you love. Also, it isn't just taste, but texture that we find appealing in our food.

What worked for me as a segway was making burritos or wraps of various ingredients I like. Beans, a salad component, a sauce component, a vegetable flavor component like onion, additional flavor/texture component(s) like nuts. This got me in the habit of eating vegetarian, and it was tasty and appealing to me. I also made quesadillas.

I took an enchilada casserole recipe and made it vegetarian instead (using veggie burger), which was a huge leap forward for me. I then started to look at my favorite meals and adjusting ingredients to make them vegetarian and tasty enough eat. Chili was a big one for me. I always used hamburger in chili. The first inclination was to use vegetarian burger as a transitionary ingredient, and I did, but I eventually found I could add something like sweet potato and have a similar texture component to round out my chili recipe. For spaghetti I replaced the meat component with squash of various types. I research various spice blends and started to put together my favorite blends for use in my dishes.

There are so many things you can do with beans, vegetables, grains, nuts and spices. A good example is this Kyong Weatherby's YouTube channel. She has developed many vegetarian cookbooks. I also fell back on my church heritage of vegetarianism. I had a church recipe book from 1984 that had many of the recipes I grew up eating at home and at potlucks (even my own grandmother's recipes). I used that knowledge to make my own variations.

The more vegetarian dishes I put into my meal rotation the less I ate meat. I stopped buying meat at the grocery store after I was settled into a vegetarian diet with meals I enjoy. This was key to my success.

After eating vegetarian for a period of time your tastes change. It is now easy for me to go the grocery store and never buy meat, as I am perfectly happy with my new diet. It is not only good for me, but it saves me money. Meat is expensive.
 
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I do believe the reason God gave Noah and his family permission to eat meat was because there were no plants to eat after the flood had receded. It would take time for plant life to return, and for them to be able to grow their own crops.

Daniel ate pulse. In Daniel's case, he didn't want to defile himself with meat sacrificed to idols, but it seems likely that Daniel may have been a strict vegetarian anyway. God gave Ezekiel a specific vegetarian diet to sustain his health.

Our own (Adventist) blue zones show that vegetarianism equals longevity and health.

My personal belief is that for long life vegetarianism is the way to go, and that God sets an example in scripture for us, but gives us the freedom to decide for ourselves.

I'm not asking anyone to agree with me. To each their own.
No problem!

I don't believe God gave meat to eat, because there were no plants, because I think He would have stated this had it been the case. He can move every animal on an ark but can't create plants for eating? Manna from Heaven but no plants? Doesn't really make sense but it's fine, we don't have to agree!

God bless, CC
 
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Ok, thanks all for your help.

I still don't really understand so please be patient.

What about clothing? We weren't meant to wear clothing and only did so after Adam and Eve sinned. Are we supposed to be naked? I don't understand why food is the one thing that is picked up as something men only did after Adam and Eve sinned since almost everything we do now is due to Adam and Eve sinning e.g. wearing clothes, being mortal etc.

Many thanks and God bless, as always.
In the climate of Eden , they did not have extreme temperature swings.

And there is a tradition that says that Adam and Eve were covered with a robe of light similar to the Angels, as long as they were sinless.

Ps 104:2 God covers Himself with a garment of light
Matt 17:2 Garments cleaming, bright as light
Luke 9:29 garments shine like light
 
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No problem!

I don't believe God gave meat to eat, because there were no plants
after the flood noah sent out birds and the birds could not even find a twig , for a while. According to Gen 8.11 after some failed attempts a bird finally returned with a single leaf.
, because I think He would have stated this had it been the case.
ok so there is Genesis 8.
He can move every animal on an ark but can't create plants for eating?
Indeed he could create an entire separate planet for all of them as a temporary holding place, lots of paradise plants etc. No boat building, nor rocking back and forth on a planet spanning shoreless ocean, no birds finding a single leaf etc. God 'could" do a wide variety of things other than what He chose to do. agreed.
Manna from Heaven but no plants? Doesn't really make sense
Indeed He could just have started raining manna as soon as they left the ark. Something else He does not say He chose to do.
 
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Unfortunately, I think I have been eating meat so long though that its difficult to wean my body completely off of it.
I used to say that too.

Try "beyond burger", or "Impossible burger" you can find them in Walmart, Krogers etc..

FriChik etc
I actually did try going full vegetarian once, but I felt so listless and lightheaded
I have been vegetarian for about 9 years, am in my 70's, and I leg press increasingly more weight until today I am at 840 lbs.

I have not found the vegetarian diet to be much of an obstacle.
 
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Hi,

I hope this is okay to ask here? If not, feel free to move/remove as appropriate.

But, I was doing some online research into SDA and wondered why vegetarianism is listed as a feature?

Can anyone explain for me?

Thanks so much and God bless.
Simple truth is it's healthier.

I wish I could be a vegetarian but I was raised on meat and I like meat and I eat meat. Yet I know meat is unhealthy.

And when you read the Bible we will find that before the flood man was a vegetarian or was supposed to be (Man became rebellious). It was after the flood that God allowed man to eat meat.

You some meats are healthier than others but all meats are bad for the body and that includes a lot of fish.
 
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