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ICE shooting in Minneapolis, police swarm scene
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She, like many, felt compelled to do something rather than do nothing and look the other way.
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What group is that? And what is your source for this information?
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You slander the dead.
The claims that Good was a member of Antifa largely circulated online and were amplified by some political figures.
- An image circulated online showing her car with "Antifa" and other political stickers, but this image was confirmed to be AI-generated and originated from a #comedy social media account.
- Good's mother explicitly denied the allegations, telling the Star Tribune, "She was not part of anything like that".
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But in the minds of many even here that lie would make it sound more justified.
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Self defense isn't wrong. We have law enforcement but people try to kill them.
Why do people think it's okay to steal money from those who need it?
"More than 90 people face federal charges as a result of fraud schemes that have been uncovered in Minnesota since 2021. Prosecutors estimate the total amount of fraud could reach $9 billion. The scandal started with a $250 million COVID-era scheme involving a nonprofit called Feeding Our Future, which was accused of stealing from the Federal Child Nutrition Program."
My autistitic grandson lives in Minnesota.
Why do people think it's okay to steal money from those who need it?
"More than 90 people face federal charges as a result of fraud schemes that have been uncovered in Minnesota since 2021. Prosecutors estimate the total amount of fraud could reach $9 billion. The scandal started with a $250 million COVID-era scheme involving a nonprofit called Feeding Our Future, which was accused of stealing from the Federal Child Nutrition Program."
My autistitic grandson lives in Minnesota.
You weren't there, were you?
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The officer who shot Renee Good had been dragged by a car and seriously injured before. The video shows he didn't deliberate before firing his weapon. He may have seen the other officer trying to get her out of the car as she tried to flee, and it triggered the response.
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The curious thing is that this is precisely what we've seen on "Christian Forums" regarding Babbitt/Good. Babbitt was of the "unapproved" political position and there are mental gymnastics to justify her shooting. Good was of the "approved" political position and thus there are mental gymnastics to condemn her shooting. Yet Good tried to run over a law enforcement officer while Babbitt was unarmed.
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The Holy Spirit doesn't lie. The spiritual energy we see that ultimately led to the Babbit shooting was the consequence of believing a lie.
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What on earth does that have to do with anything? The question is the use of deadly force. Political ideology doesn't - or shouldn't - be a determining factor behind whether it's justified or not. I have no idea if she was ANTIFA or Episcopalian; neither is relevant, not should be.
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Apparently, more videos are coming to light. And people are looking at them:
A majority of American voters say the fatal Jan. 7 shooting of a demonstrator by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement official should not have happened, according to a new national poll.
In a survey by Quinnipiac University, days after 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good was shot and killed by a federal agent in Minneapolis, 53% said the shooting was not justified, and 35% said it was. Another 12% of respondents did not state an opinion.
"The majority say the shots should not have been fired by the ICE agent," Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Tim Malloy said in a statement. "While more than one-third believe the shooting was justified."
Noem was acting on the theory that the first one to get their side out, wins. But video complicates things. Whether this rises to the level of a crime remains to be seen. But that officer seems to be in for a rough time.
A majority of American voters say the fatal Jan. 7 shooting of a demonstrator by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement official should not have happened, according to a new national poll.
In a survey by Quinnipiac University, days after 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good was shot and killed by a federal agent in Minneapolis, 53% said the shooting was not justified, and 35% said it was. Another 12% of respondents did not state an opinion.
"The majority say the shots should not have been fired by the ICE agent," Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Tim Malloy said in a statement. "While more than one-third believe the shooting was justified."
Most voters say fatal ICE shooting was unjustified in new poll
The national poll was conducted days after an ICE agent fatally shot Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis, sparking outrage and mass protests.
www.usatoday.com
Noem was acting on the theory that the first one to get their side out, wins. But video complicates things. Whether this rises to the level of a crime remains to be seen. But that officer seems to be in for a rough time.
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See post 177. For some here that alone would justify the killing. And I think the “politically approved positions” have certainly changed, as have the concerns of free speech.
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The only videos that matter are those that show what the officer saw. If someone comes at an officer with a weapon in close quarters and the officer considers his or her life or the life of others is threatened then the officer is trained to shoot. If someone is unarmed thirty feet away and an officers guns them down that is murder. You don't reverse situations because of someone's political beliefs, that is making a mockery of the law. That is the two-tiered justice system so complained about under the Biden administration that America rejected in a fair election. Walz and Frey have blood on their hands for encouraging interference with law enforcement.Apparently, more videos are coming to light. And people are looking at them:
A majority of American voters say the fatal Jan. 7 shooting of a demonstrator by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement official should not have happened, according to a new national poll.
In a survey by Quinnipiac University, days after 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good was shot and killed by a federal agent in Minneapolis, 53% said the shooting was not justified, and 35% said it was. Another 12% of respondents did not state an opinion.
"The majority say the shots should not have been fired by the ICE agent," Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Tim Malloy said in a statement. "While more than one-third believe the shooting was justified."
Most voters say fatal ICE shooting was unjustified in new poll
The national poll was conducted days after an ICE agent fatally shot Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis, sparking outrage and mass protests.www.usatoday.com
Noem was acting on the theory that the first one to get their side out, wins. But video complicates things. Whether this rises to the level of a crime remains to be seen. But that officer seems to be in for a rough time.
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That's what people are seeing, from different angles. And it doesn't reflect well on the killer.
But Noem is trying. The woman shot while breaking into the Capitol and confronting police apparently wasn't recorded; it would have been very useful to have that information. The "problem" of ubiquitous cell phones is not a new one for police; a lot of them have ended up charged because it is often no longer the cop's word against the citizen.
The point is that Americans are looking at the evidence, and most of them think the officer was in the wrong.
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Here’s an article discussing the question of firing at a moving car. What to know about the rules for officers firing at a moving vehicle. It’s not normally allowed. Officers are expected to move out of the way if they can. But things seem to have moved beyond that question, to trying to show that the victim or her wife is a bad person.
A group of prosecutors agree that things are moving in the wrong direction. Justice Department prosecutors resign amid turmoil over Minnesota ICE shooting investigation (Some of the resignations were already in progress. But this is not the first situation where experienced prosecutors could reasonably object to what they are or are not being asked to do. Six, however, were over this incident.)
A group of prosecutors agree that things are moving in the wrong direction. Justice Department prosecutors resign amid turmoil over Minnesota ICE shooting investigation (Some of the resignations were already in progress. But this is not the first situation where experienced prosecutors could reasonably object to what they are or are not being asked to do. Six, however, were over this incident.)
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