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RFK Jr. says it may be "better" if fewer children receive the flu vaccine

Ophiolite

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Right, I'm putting peoples lives at risk for sharing an opinion which I have zero sway over in a real sense since I'm not in government or apart of the CDC. Vaccines also have been proven to increase the risk for getting it again. So your assertion they prevent infection is incorrect. link is a case study when dealing with humans and the flu.
"but over the course of the study the cumulative incidence of influenza increased more rapidly among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated."

Vaccine market is a hell of a money maker.
And so you have chosen to double-down with a single, suspect study rather than heed the multiple meta-studies that reveal the overall benefits of vaccines. That feeds into the frenzy of self-indulgent ignorance so commonplace amongst anti-vaxxers. I regret that your conscience in this regard has taken a long vacation. I think we're done here.
 
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It really can be a 'conversational' topic when you're on the 'Physical and Life Sciences' subforum of the 'Discussion and Debate' subforum, and especially on a topic that many people do feel strongly about. Especially when there's people on this subforum who are in the medical field in some form or another who can actually talk about vaccines and the science behind them versus what people think the science behind them is.
You do realize that this forum allows debates, that doesn't mean you can't discuss... I have a medical degree too thanks but just because you can debate doesn't mean you grill every single person that comments to ask for their sources. That's ridiculous. This forum isn't "you must debate" it just says you can debate here. But I'm done debating. truly. The internet has taken the humanity out of discussions and forced it into some cynical place where people feel entitled to jump on people for stating a belief. We are done here.
 
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You do realize that this forum allows debates, that doesn't mean you can't discuss... I have a medical degree too thanks but just because you can debate doesn't mean you grill every single person that comments to ask for their sources. That's ridiculous. This forum isn't "you must debate" it just says you can debate here. But I'm done debating. truly. The internet has taken the humanity out of discussions and forced it into some cynical place where people feel entitled to jump on people for stating a belief. We are done here.

Buh-bye. Sorry you didn't like the idea of people challenging your unfounded claims.
 
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I'm not against all vaccines, I'm against the modern ones. The ones back in the day seem to be more solid than the ones around now. It seems to me like it was started out in good faith that just devolved into a money making racket. Same with the history of the US government. Started out in good faith to give people freedom of religion and speech and has now devolved into corruption so deep, we'd need a civil war to fix it. I believe the modern medical science mostly (not all) is corrupt.
It's one thing to believe something, and quite another to prove it.
 
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Right, I'm putting peoples lives at risk for sharing an opinion which I have zero sway over in a real sense since I'm not in government or apart of the CDC.
When you repeat bad information, then yes you are giving "increased creedence" to the simple folk who are on the fence and who believe the health related information is a democracy.

Vaccines also have been proven to increase the risk for getting it again.
False. Or provide a source.


So your assertion they prevent infection is
You are not reading that study correctly. Nor are you presenting this information correctly.

link is a case study when dealing with humans and the flu.
"but over the course of the study the cumulative incidence of influenza increased more rapidly among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated."

Vaccine market is a hell of a money maker.
This is the efficacy for ONE year in ONE location.

You seem to believe this is the normal state of affairs.

It is not.
 
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