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Sounds like a legitimate argument for this woman to not want to be dragged from her car by ICE and to instead drive away.

If Jonathan Ross can claim "adrenaline" and "snap judgements", then Renee Good can claim them too.
She was not facing a threat of death or serious bodily injury. She was receiving lawful commands to get out of her vehicle. You are required by law to do so. You arw also required by law not to drive your vehicle in such a manner as to put someone else at risk due to your driving.
 
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Are they not persons?

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State
They are people. But for the census I don't believe anyone who is not a citizen should be counted as persons for that. It gives too much power to states who are filled with people who receive tax money and benefits from the rest of us who.arw citizens. That's my opinion. But we gaetring off topic.
 
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And yet she was looking directly at him and hit him with the car.
Never happened. The video from in front of the car shows she was turning away, and he was never in danger. He fired his gun after he was standing well clear.
 
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We apparently didn't watch the same videos.
You apparently didn't watch any of the videos. Myself and CNN did: https://www.tiktok.com/video/7593580392108526861
Self defense requires defense of self. He wasn't defending himself. That's obvious.
He was, indeed, defending himself.
"Serve Christ, not lesbians" tells me everything I need to know.

I'm so done with Cosplay Christianity. Either Jesus matters, or He doesn't. But if you all hate God, just say so. This pretending to be religious thing is just so gross.

My conscience is held captive to the Word of God.
Apparently it isn't if you think lesbianism is higher than Christ, and that it is okay.
 
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Protesting is not illegal.
Actually it is when you are interfering with law enforcement duties
Never happened.
Yes it did: https://www.tiktok.com/video/7593580392108526861
Watch your French.
Watch your English
Never happened. Video from in front of the truck shows he was well clear as she turned away from him.

He's a murderer.
Nope, he was hit by a vehicle, and shot the idiot who hit him. https://www.tiktok.com/video/7593580392108526861
 
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Did you pray for her soul? I'll bet not. Or did you give thanks that a Christan woman died unshriven because she was a lefty?
Are you a Catholic or something? Her soul is in God's hands, my praying won't do anything to help her being judged for her unrepentant homosexuality. She was most certainly not a Christian woman either, and wrote poems about destroying Bibles.
 
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Is that why you can celebrate her death unshriven as a victory for Christ? I think of Hamlet's advice to Claudius: is she in heaven? Send thither to see, and if your messenger find her not then seek her in the other place yourself.
 
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Is that why you can celebrate her death unshriven as a victory for Christ? I think of Hamlet's advice to Claudius: is she in heaven? Send thither to see, and if your messenger find her not then seek her in the other place yourself.
Interesting, where did I 'celebrate her death'? Be so very specific here.
 
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Interesting, where did I 'celebrate her death'? Be so very specific here.
Noem and Vance did and you seem to be going along with it, Didn't you suggest that she deserved to die because she was a lesbian?
 
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Never happened. The video from in front of the car shows she was turning away, and he was never in danger. He fired his gun after he was standing well clear.
She hit him with her vehicle. She was looking at him when she did it. He responded while being hit. Legally reasonable.under the conditions at the time and supported by Graham v Connor.
 
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Noem and Vance did and you seem to be going along with it,
I "seem to be"? Or I am? Do you have a quote of me doing so? Do you have a quote of me mentioning either of the people you just cited? Or are you just telling porkies about me? Let's see you back those porkies up with quotes
Didn't you suggest that she deserved to die because she was a lesbian?
Did I? Let's see you quote me saying that.
 
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I "seem to be"? Or I am? Do you have a quote of me doing so? Do you have a quote of me mentioning either of the people you just cited? Or are you just telling porkies about me? Let's see you back those porkies up with quotes

Did I? Let's see you quote me saying that.
Are you a Catholic or something? Her soul is in God's hands, my praying won't do anything to help her being judged for her unrepentant homosexuality. She was most certainly not a Christian woman either, and wrote poems about destroying Bibles.
BTW, it is a violation of the rules of this forum to deny the faith of a professed Christian.
 
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So where here in your quote of me did Isuggest she deserved to die because she was lesbian, or 'celebrate her death'. Highlight it. I'm past asking nicely now, back up your false witness against me.
BTW, it is a violation of the rules of this forum to deny the faith of a professed Christian.
I didn't deny the faith of a professed Christian. The woman in question is not a professed Christian, and is a homosexual who wrote explicit poems about destroying Bibles and hating the Christian god.
 
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They are people. But for the census I don't believe anyone who is not a citizen should be counted as persons for that.
Too bad, the Constitution says persons. Go change it if you don't like it.
It gives too much power to states who are filled with people
Texas and Arizona and Florida are among them also.
 
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