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wing2000 · Thursday at 12:03 PM

Re posting the question (for those who have seemed to have missed it)

rambot said:
On a scale of 1 to 10, I'm curious to hear folks' skepticism that there will not be an election held this year. There is a lot of chaos being sown by, well, a chaos based administration.

One.

Attempting to cancel or postpone is a bridge too far...even for Trump.
He will do everything in his power to impact the election. 10+ on that count.

Servus · Thursday at 12:06 PM

Say it aint so said:
Great. So he's not pessimistic. And given how recent special elections have gone, we can understand why.

"If we do our job and take advantage of the opportunities, we will win". That's like saying "if Chris Christie diets and exercises enough, he will win the marathon".

Say it aint so · Thursday at 12:09 PM

Servus said:
"If we do our job and take advantage of the opportunities, we will win". That's like saying "if Jelly Roll diets and exercises enough, he will win the race".

That special election wise, that has come to fruition. As juxtaposed this this guy,

"NC chairman warns of 'almost certain defeat' for GOP in 2026 ..."

Servus · Thursday at 12:26 PM

Say it aint so said:
That special election wise, that has come to fruition. As juxtaposed this this guy,

"NC chairman warns of 'almost certain defeat' for GOP in 2026 ..."

That's by way of a soundbite with no context posted on X.

rambot · Thursday at 12:38 PM

Servus said:
What's not to know?

That's actually my point.

Servus said:
It's all hanging out there for everyone to see.

Well, if you read what voting democrats say by and large, then yes. But, as we know, Republiicans are not big fans of listening to Democrats. I mean, I agree with you because I am reading those things. YOU are reading what Republicans are pointing you to read..

Also, just so you're aware....
The Democrat gap is -23% approval
The Republican gap is 14% approval.

Is a 9 point spread on this really something to brag about?

Servus said:
It's about what America was left with in the aftermath and things that have happened since then to keep the 'the Democrat party is a disaster' impression going.

Lol. Now that is wishful thinking.

JSRG · Thursday at 7:27 PM

Barring something that causes the end of the world as we know it (alien invasion, thermonuclear war, etc.) it's a 1.

Servus · Thursday at 8:03 PM

rambot said:
That's actually my point.

Well, if you read what voting democrats say by and large, then yes. But, as we know, Republiicans are not big fans of listening to Democrats. I mean, I agree with you because I am reading those things. YOU are reading what Republicans are pointing you to read..

I always go to the horse's mouth to see what a party or group thinks or believes overall. < One of many examples of me saying how I operate.

rambot said:
Also, just so you're aware....
The Democrat gap is -23% approval
The Republican gap is 14% approval.

That's according to what source? Show me where you got that from.

rambot said:
Is a 9 point spread on this really something to brag about?

Lol. Now that is wishful thinking.

You assume too much.

NxNW · Thursday at 10:24 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Because only living legal citizens are voting?

Some of them are voting, at least.

rambot · Friday at 12:16 AM

Servus said:
I always go to the horse's mouth to see what a party or group thinks or believes overall. < One of many examples of me saying how I operate.

Ok but you clearly are not.

Servus said:
That's according to what source? Show me where you got that from.

I got that from rcp today at 3pm.

Servus said:
You assume too much.

Ok.

Servus · Friday at 3:34 AM

rambot said:
Ok but you clearly are not.

Right my commenting on what the DNC Chair himself said is a clear example of that

. Face it, you were wrong. You made an incorrect assumption.

A2SG · Friday at 4:02 AM

Servus said:
This is about the upcoming election between Democrats and Republicans. So of course how American voters feel about the two parties means something. The unpopularity of the Democrat party is due to a mixed bag of things.

I can agree with that last statement. But, whatever problems we, as democrats, have with the party doesn't mean we'll start voting republican.

-- A2SG, that'd be just plain dumb....

Servus · Friday at 4:14 AM

Not everyone is completely committed to a particular party. There are many who vote one way or the other depending on the circumstances.

If every voter was consistent then all elections would pretty much turn out the same.

rambot · Friday at 12:29 PM

Servus said:
Right my commenting on what the DNC Chair himself said is a clear example of that . Face it, you were wrong. You made an incorrect assumption.

Lol.
My argument is that you aren't listening to Democrat voters.

Your counter is that you are listening to the DNC "chair himself".

PAy attention to the details of what folks write if you want to properly address their argument.

Servus · Friday at 12:50 PM

rambot said:
Lol.
My argument is that you aren't listening to Democrat voters.

Your counter is that you are listening to the DNC "chair himself".

PAy attention to the details of what folks write if you want to properly address their argument.

Your incorrect claim is that I never listen to what Democrats have to say. In other words you're into making things up and stating your imagination as fact. And you go for personal attacks instead of sticking to the topic, which derails threads. Can we get back on topic now?

rambot · Friday at 12:53 PM

Servus said:
Your incorrect claim is that I never listen to what Democrats have to say.

VOTING democrats...the CITIZENRY. I'm sure you do listen to the leadership because they are feckless and bought by the same people who've bought Republicans.

That's why I'm explicitly referring to non government officials when I say you are misinformed.

If I want to know why a party is not successful, should I be listening to their supporters or to the leadership that is unliked? Just doesn't make sense.

Servus · Friday at 1:01 PM

rambot said:
VOTING democrats...the CITIZENRY. I'm sure you do listen to the leadership because they are feckless and bought by the same people who've bought Republicans.

That's why I'm explicitly referring to non government officials when I say you are misinformed.

If I want to know why a party is not successful, should I be listening to their supporters or to the leadership that is unliked? Just doesn't make sense.

You've got things swimming around inside your head that you're trying to apply to me. It's pretty disjointed and difficult to follow. Now unless you can prove who I do and don't listen to, then we're just discussing your imagination, which isn't the topic of this thread.

rambot · Friday at 1:15 PM

ME:

Well, if you read what voting democrats say by and large, then yes. But, as we know, Republiicans are not big fans of listening to Democrats. I mean, I agree with you because I am reading those things.

You said:

I always go to the horse's mouth to see what a party or group thinks or believes overall.

Assuming "the horse's mouth" would have been the people who's opinion actually matters in the conversation, I assumed you were saying that in fact you DO listen to the voting democrats. So I wrote
I said:

Ok but you clearly are not.

Your reply:

Right my commenting on what the DNC Chair himself

Again. I don't understand why you'd think that the DNC Chair's opinion as to why they aren't doing well would be, in any way, reflective of reality OR of what Democrats voters would say. He has a vested interest in distraction.

Servus said:
You've got things swimming around inside your head that you're trying to apply to me. It's pretty disjointed and difficult to follow. Now unless you can prove who I do and don't listen to, then we're just discussing your imagination, which isn't the topic of this thread.

I've laid out our conversation again. HOpefuly it's clearer. I mean, it's none of the things you've said here; seems pretty easy to wrap my head around.

I odn't need to prove who you don't or do listen to. MY argument is that listening to DNC leadership will not properly inform you as to why the party is experiencing such disatisfaction. My argument says continues to say that Democrat voters are who you should be listening to. And my final point is that you don't seem to be listening to the voters because I am and they NEVER say the things you say.

Servus · Friday at 1:18 PM

rambot said:
ME:

You said:

Assuming "the horse's mouth" would have been the people who's opinion actually matters in the conversation, I assumed you were saying that in fact you DO listen to the voting democrats. So I wrote
I said:

Your reply:

Again. I don't understand why you'd think that the DNC Chair's opinion as to why they aren't doing well would be, in any way, reflective of reality OR of what Democrats voters would say. He has a vested interest in distraction.

I've laid out our conversation again. HOpefuly it's clearer. I mean, it's none of the things you've said here; seems pretty easy to wrap my head around.

I odn't need to prove who you don't or do listen to. MY argument is that listening to DNC leadership will not properly inform you as to why the party is experiencing such disatisfaction. My argument says continues to say that Democrat voters are who you should be listening to. And my final point is that you don't seem to be listening to the voters because I am and they NEVER say the things you say.

This disjointed ranting about me is off topic.

Say it aint so · Saturday at 12:31 AM

Servus said:
That's by way of a soundbite with no context posted on X.

Yes, from his speech. I mean really, to make the claim given again this years elections is kind of like saying 12pm is still noon.

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