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ICE shooting in Minneapolis, police swarm scene
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DHS says woman fatally shot by ICE agent after alleged car ramming: 'Act of terrorism'
A woman was shot and killed by an ICE agent in Minneapolis on Wednesday in what DHS is calling an "act of domestic terrorism." Authorities say she used her car to try to run over federal officers during an enforcement operation.
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Cosmic Charlie
The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated
I hate tik toker's.
Seriously, I do.
But one uses the tools at one's disposal.
And
just for the record:
Had the traitor Ashi Babbitt JUST OBEYED THE POLICEMAN, she'd still be a living breath traitor, instead of a dead one.
Also, so you know, ICE has absolutely NO local law enforcement nor any authority over actual US citizens. As a citizen this poor murder victim was under no compulsion to follow the orders of this ICE agent in a traffic stop.
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All citizens of the United States are required to obey orders of a federal officer. In fact federal law takes precedence over local law. Those who urge others to disobey, Walz or Frey or others, are complicit in the consequences.
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I hadn't seen the man in front of the car; just the one at the side. These videos give a different picture.
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Cosmic Charlie
The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated
Not unless the federal officer has the authority to give the order. Which, in this case, ICE do not.
This is irrelevant in this case, there is no federal precedence involved.
Well, me too then because I'm telling everyone who's reading
If you are a citizen not actively involved in a federal crime, tell ICE to fo melt away.
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Cosmic Charlie
The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated
There is reason to believe this video has been altered. I saw it earlier and it's not in its original format.
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Cosmic Charlie
The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated
Go back to your high school civics teacher and ask for your money back, you really don't understand the system.
It's the inadequate training and the substandard personnel and the masking and the lack of accountability within ICE that's at issue.
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If he was on front of the vehicle killing her would not have helped him. The car kept going anyway.
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Cosmic Charlie
The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated
No that's just flat not right, wiil tou just please ask a AI research assistant (whichever ine you use) if ICE can enforce criminal laws
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Can ICE enforce criminal laws
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Yes, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) can enforce certain criminal laws, though its authority is limited to specific federal statutes rather than general criminal law (like state crimes or all federal crimes handled by agencies such as the FBI).ICE's Structure and AuthorityICE operates through two main directorates relevant here:
- Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) — Primarily handles civil immigration enforcement, including arrests and removals for immigration violations.
- Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) — Focuses on criminal investigations.
- Immigration laws (Title 8 U.S.C.)
- Customs laws (Title 19 U.S.C.)
- A broad range of other federal criminal statutes, including general federal crimes (Title 18 U.S.C.), the Controlled Substances Act (Title 21 U.S.C.), and additional titles related to money laundering, human trafficking, child exploitation, export controls, and more.
- ICE does not have general police powers to enforce all criminal laws (e.g., it lacks plenary authority over unrelated federal crimes like bank robbery unless tied to its mission).
- Its criminal enforcement often overlaps with immigration or customs issues, such as investigating transnational criminal organizations or removing "criminal aliens."
- ICE can execute criminal arrest warrants and initiate prosecutions for immigration-related crimes (e.g., illegal re-entry) or broader federal offenses within its jurisdiction.
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There is no issue. Please don't misinform people about the authority of federal law enforcement officers. People, comply with orders of all law enforcement officers, take them to court later if you feel your rights have been violated.
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