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Utah students can no longer bring personal copies of banned books to school [Lucky thing SLC reversed its ban on the Bible]
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Yep. It's very readily available. Just go to youtube and look up Sen John Kennedy reading Gender Queer and look up parents confronting school board. Or just Google those two things to bring up news articles. Don't pretend that's too difficult for anyone who knows how to post to CF.
Reddit is about the same as usenet. Except the subforums have moderators.
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Oh, I don’t doubt it’s there, it’s just that I’m not going to go look at it, because this point is silly.
Yes, I do not doubt that there are some books in school libraries that are patently offensive to many (but not all people) but as this instant thread is about children not being able to bring their own, personal copies of books into school, I’ll demur.
Oh there was a hierarchy on Usenet too
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There's always been reading material that's inappropriate to bring to school.
Most of the alt subs were unmoderated. No way to suspend or ban someone. Many got trolled to such an extent the actual contributors left. Then it was just nutjob troll spam and ad spam.
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For the first decade or so of Usenet, since we were posting under our real names from our university or work account, there was always the possibility of our school or employer shutting off our computer account if we did something too terrible, like posting a commercial ad or genuinely harassing someone.
This changed, of course, once AOL came along and once it became legal to post ads.
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Ah, more book recommendations! I've read one of these, but not the other. Hmm... (type type type) ... yes, it's in my local public library, and I can check it out as an ebook and read it on my phone.
Maybe it ultimately doesn't matter, except symbolically, which books are banned at school. The gay or gender-diverse teenager who's trying to figure it all out, or who's dealing with bullying or suicidal thoughts, can look at the banned-books lists (or just Google) to find book titles and can probably find the books at the local public library.
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Eternal September. I didn't get on usenet until the late 90s.
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Just as long as they're not in the school libraries. Also if your library is large, there's probably quite a lot of books there that aren't in school libraries. I went to pretty large public schools, but their libraries weren't nearly as big as the public libraries.
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Utah Begins 2026 by Banning Three Books at All Public Schools Statewide, Leads U.S. In [statewide] Bans
To begin the new year at public schools across the state, Utah officials banned three more books. Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West by Gregory Maguire, Nineteen Minutes by Jodi Picoult, and The Perks of Being a Wallflower by Stephen Chbosky join 19 other titles on a state-sanctioned ban list and must now be removed from all schools.
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I’ve read Nineteen Minutes and The Perks of Being a Wallflower.
I have Wicked. Will read it eventually.
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SALT LAKE CITY — The American Civil Liberties Union of Utah has filed a lawsuit on behalf of the estate of Kurt Vonnegut and other acclaimed authors, claiming the state of Utah is "trampling on the protections guaranteed by the First Amendment" by removing books from public schools.
The lawsuit comes one day after the state banned three additional books, including the source material for the popular musical and movie "Wicked,"
The lawsuit comes one day after the state banned three additional books, including the source material for the popular musical and movie "Wicked,"
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(To be clear, I don’t support book banning) I heard the “Wicked” novel is much more mature and has adult themes. The musical and movie are much more family friendly, apparently (I haven’t seen either)
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Our environment doesn’t like it
Cleaner that coal...
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Wow, that's sad. I loved reading as a kid. We made heavy use of the school and public library. In elementary school, part of the day was reserved for reading quietly books we got from the school library. Sometimes we did book reports on them. Going to the library was the highlight of the week.
One of our teachers in the 6th grade read us the Narnia series and the Hobbit, which led to me getting my own copies. Debbie (RIP) used to give me all her romance novels once she finished them. We passed around the Go Ask Alice book like it was contraband. Judy Blume was a right of passage. Friends used to swap books and in high-school another friend introduced me to the dragon lance series and other fantasy books since a lot of the guys played dungeons and dragons. At one point I read a book every day or two. They were my entertainment.
My mom instilled a love of reading in us early. When my brother joined the Navy he sent a bunch of books home. An encyclopedia set, classics, children set and my favorite were the Bible stories set. The green blue Arthur Maxwell set that you used to see every where. Mom used to read to me from them every night. Part of the reason I learned to read early was because I was too impatient to wait for her to read to me. 50 years later and I still have all those books.
Reading for pleasure is becoming lost. I have audio books but cant concentrate long enough to get through them. Far too many people see reading as punishment. One way to get kids to want something is to try to withhold it from them. Hopefully these bans have the same effect and ignite a love of books.
I prefer paper but thank God for digital. Otherwise, I wouldn't be able to walk into my house.
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I spent a lot of time in the school library and public library, and did a lot of trading at home. Plus books were read to us in school and we listed to audio books on tape or LP. My school principal referred to me as "the reader". I just didn't lug extra personal books to school. So, now you don't have to be sad for me anymore.
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