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Joy, tears and chants of "freedom" as Venezuelans - Bravo President Trump and his decisive actions

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Justice Dept. Drops Claim That Venezuela’s ‘Cartel de los Soles’ Is an Actual Group

The Justice Department has backed off a dubious claim about President Nicolás Maduro that the Trump administration promoted last year in laying the groundwork to remove him from power in Venezuela: accusing him of leading a drug cartel called Cartel de los Soles.
That claim traces back to a 2020 grand jury indictment of Mr. Maduro drafted by the Justice Department. In July 2025, copying language from it, the Treasury Department designated Cartel de los Soles as a terrorist organization. In November, Marco Rubio, the secretary of state and President Trump’s national security adviser, ordered the State Department to do the same.
But experts in Latin American crime and narcotics issues have said it is actually a slang term, invented by the Venezuelan media in the 1990s, for officials who are corrupted by drug money. And on Saturday, after the administration captured Mr. Maduro, the Justice Department released a rewritten indictment that appeared to tacitly concede the point.
As I mentioned before. The Trump admin is good at making claims, and bad at supporting those claims in court be it election fraud, people being MS-13 gang members, and they are now backing down their claims of Maduro. They literally told a grand jury that he was head of a drug cartel that didn't exist.
 
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Right. What Maduro did was to make Petrolio Venezuela a department of the government rather than an independent agency so all the income went straight to him, including money that should have been kept back for maintenance and wages for real engineers.
So that's where Trump got his idea to personally control the Venezuelan oil himself from. Interesting.
 
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Don't read nuttery websites which I am sure has not one thing to do with what I said.
That website actually quotes Senator Fetterman who is one of the few rational Democrats in his party. Senator Fetterman supports President Trump's actions against Maduro.
 
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The Venezuelans celebrating Saturday morning must have been disappointed when they learned the current regime will stay for now....(and Trump dismissed Machado).

And of course the regime is acting like a government under threat:

In Venezuela, there have been signs of an intensifying crackdown by the government, with the so-called colectivos, or armed government militias, out in full force on the streets of Caracas, the capital, in recent days. Some citizens said the colectivos had been interrogating people and searching their phones for signs of support for the U.S. attacks. At least 14 journalists have been detained, and at least two people have been arrested for celebrating Mr. Maduro’s capture.

Mr. Trump, when asked by reporters on Sunday whether he had discussed with the Venezuelan government the release of political prisoners or the return of opposition politicians to the country, seemed to foreshadow his plans. “We haven’t gotten to that yet,” he said. “What we want to do now is fix up the oil.”
 
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It's the usual MO: tear things up and then hope it miraculously falls together. I'm not even sure there is hope; perhaps it's just destruction that they love. Either way, having a plan has never occurred to this "administration."
Same approach as with the ballroom.
 
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That website actually quotes Senator Fetterman who is one of the few rational Democrats in his party. Senator Fetterman supports President Trump's actions against Maduro.
So what this is, is a argument from authority referencing someone who has no authority. Why are you guys both politically and religiously into pseudo elevated authorities?
 
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Well Trump is acquiring up countries that have resources that can be used when he attacks China. Which i am guessing will happen in his 4 year. So he will have a reason to run again.

Nah. The Trump "foreign policy" envisions a world divide into three spheres controlled by 3 powers: US, China and Russia. The idea envisions each of the 3 powers would respect each other's sphere and world peace would ensue.

Of course, Russia would have the most to gain as it would be seen as an equal to the U.S. and China. And the US would be reduced to a regional power which for some odd reason, the Trump administration seems to be embracing.
 
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Nah. The Trump "foreign policy" envisions a world divide into three spheres controlled by 3 powers: US, China and Russia. The idea envisions each of the 3 powers would respect each other's sphere and world peace would ensue.
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