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Do you think this is a real world possibility that doesn’t contradict what we know about history, science, and anything?

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This was a series of posts that I just did elsewhere.

For this, the physical and life sciences section, I would like for you to state whether you think this is a real possibility or not, and maybe why or why not. Or give me what you think might be the likelihood of the possibility if you think it's possible possibly, etc.

These were the series of posts:

The apparent on the surface at first glance contradictions between two opposing schools of thought/philosophies/viewpoints are there on purpose for us to use our powers of reason to figure out or discern the truth, or figure out how they can come together/be fully reconciled for us to know the balance/truth.

And a few keys to this that will only just only start you down this correct road is to know that Our Heavenly Father/Jesus Father that Jesus first introduced us to/spoke about is not God in the Old Testament, but that God in the Old Testament is/was actually lesser, and is God the Holy Spirit, or God in the Form of a Spirit, and Jesus of course is God in the Form of a man, but nobody knows the exact Form of God the/Our Heavenly Father Jesus spoke of, who has always been the Highest of All, including God the Son, and God the (Holy) Spirit.

The only one who started out with All Knowledge was only this Highest One Jesus first truly introduced us to or spoke of, and that One's only limitation with having All knowledge always was that One's ability to show Him/itself to us because of being the only One having all knowledge from the very beginning always, which created a need for another one or two to be able to make his heart/mind/will/emotions (personality/ways) known to us because he would naturally have an inability to show us these things due to having all knowledge about everything always, etc.

It required a certain amount of ignorance for that One to show us what he is like, because it would have to include a not all knowing beginning, then middle, and then eventually, full maturity, and/or and ending to that development/growth, and we would have to witness that process the entire way, etc. Not possible if you always know everything always, etc.

This whole universe is deterministic also, which is another part you are missing, etc.

This will only begin you down the path of reconciling everything that was said, or the two, at first glance contradicting/opposing thoughts/ideas/philosophies found in both the old and new testaments respectively, etc. None of them accurately knew about judgement, even though a lot of them only thought they did, etc. The key to that lies between the two opposing philosophies/schools of thought, that along with some of these other keys I have just given you, and with adding our God given powers of reason/deduction to the mix after that, allows us to know/discern/figure out the truth, etc.

If we were all-knowing, then we would be completely deviod of any kind of real personality, and feelings, unless we were faking it, or were somehow deceiving others probably, and would have no real way to show ourselves to any others in any kind of meaningful way that would cause us to be able to become known to or by any others. It is probably the one and only limitation of full omniscience. That's why we have the others, and why God is a Trinity, etc. Just not the Trinity in the way that we have all been classically taught probably, etc, and good luck in trying to get the rest of the churches to accept this BTW. They think it's blasphemy, etc.

The other two are the Bridge, and truly are the only way we can even get close to being able to quote/unquote "see" the God, our "Heavenly Father", etc. Jesus figured all this out, and told us to our faces, and did not lie, it's all in his words, etc. And he was the first, and the rest of us can only know this because of what he did, and because of his words, and his finding this out first, etc. He said many would come after him though, etc.

Take Care/God Bless.


First off, their were two different races, that I think were even completely different species of humans, one specially created at the height of hubris by God the Spirit (but not God the Heavenly Father Jesus spoke of) (because that One actually created him/them, etc) (The Holy Spirit and his Angels, etc) but and/or anyway, in the region of ancient Mesopotamia around 7-8 thousand years ago in a small local region in the area (Garden of Eden) around 7-8 thousand years ago when that region was one of the most fertile places on the entire planet before a localized flood that turned the area into a desert where almost nothing would grow after that, etc. (Rain water got mixed with some sea water with salt in it, etc).

These specially created ones done at the height of hubris of God the Holy Spirit and his Angels I like to call "homo-divinus", and were probably about 12 feet tall or so, and were genetically superior to the homo-sapiens that had come through natural evolution in the earth up to that point, etc.

The original plan was for a ruling kingdom/nation with these specially created ones that would rule over all other species on the planet, including the much more smaller, much more genetically inferior, homo-sapiens that had come up on the earth through natural evolution up to that point, if they kept their species/race pure that is, and did not mix with any others up to that point, etc. But of course, after Eden, they eventually started running into these evolved ones, and started to have sex with them, that produced some hybrid children that was an "abomination" to God the Spirit that had made them, etc. They had also become exceedingly wicked much more beyond that, so that God the Spirit declared that he had regretted that he had made them, etc.

And that of course was when he got angry enough to wipe almost all of them out with a local flood that would forever change that entire region as far as plant life goes, etc. The remaining ones after that would eventually have no other choice than to breed with the evolved ones, and whom were now much more numerous than the few homo-divinus that were remaining after that, and needless to say, their species became diminished to almost non-existent in a relatively very short period of time, except for some hybrid children that some cultures would try to keep for a while after that through selective breeding after that, etc.

Anyway, it's a real world possibility that can't be disproven yet, as it contradicts nothing in evolution or science or the earth's age/history up to that point.

It's important to note also that the creation account in genesis perfectly parallels evolution if each "day" is a long age, etc. And the first chapter of Genesis should have ended at Chapter 2 verse 4 instead of where they decided to end it, etc, as Genesis 2:4 reads that everything stated up to that point was a very, very short summary of any entire earth's/planets lifespan/creation/history from beginning to end. Chapter 2 verse 5 instantly takes us to very, very late on day 6, which is still where we are at right now until day 7 starts when Jesus comes back, etc, and that too, will be a very long "day" until this whole entire earth is about to be done away with, and then it's either Heaven, or a new earth after that, etc.

Anyway, these are some of the other possibilities that you might not be considering, etc.

Oh, the sun and the moon were not "created" on day 4, but were "revealed/uncovered" (volcanic dust and ash) to the rest of the surface of the planet after that, etc, that allowed more complex plant life to start evolving and getting much more complex after that, etc. Then came the Sea creatures (day 5) and then the land creatures after that (day 6) (that we're still on, etc) (but day 7 is coming, etc)

I know I'm still leaving out a lot, but hopefully this will be enough to get you started in at the very least considering or entertaining this possibility for a little while, etc.

God Bless.
 
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I further replied to someone else with this conversation I was having where I originally posted these elsewhere originally. They were talking about the contradictions again, and how people were so stupid thinking that there was a God, or God or gods, so I replied with this this time:

I don't think you're looking at all the possibilities 100% completely objectively, cause if you were, or if you maybe weren't colored/prejudiced by some prior life experiences, or something, then it would be impossible to be an atheist, but you maybe could still be an agnostic though, as that's at least a much more honest position at least, etc.

Stupid comes from completely closed, dishonest minds, etc, but if I am to be honest, there's plenty of that going on on both sides, etc.

Also, everything in this universe/reality is a contradiction, but that's also by design, etc. In everything here, we're given two different truths to reconcile, but it's also by design, etc. The question we need to be asking ourselves is why? Especially if it is always being done by design. We're obviously meant to be doing something with it, and maybe something specific with it, if it's always by design, etc.
 
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This was a series of posts that I just did elsewhere.

For this, the physical and life sciences section, I would like for you to state whether you think this is a real possibility or not, and maybe why or why not. Or give me what you think might be the likelihood of the possibility if you think it's possible possibly, etc.
OK
These were the series of posts:

The apparent on the surface at first glance contradictions between two opposing schools of thought/philosophies/viewpoints are there on purpose for us to use our powers of reason to figure out or discern the truth, or figure out how they can come together/be fully reconciled for us to know the balance/truth.
There is no need to think of "purpose" here.
And a few keys to this that will only just only start you down this correct road is to know that Our Heavenly Father/Jesus Father that Jesus first introduced us to/spoke about is not God in the Old Testament, but that God in the Old Testament is/was actually lesser, and is God the Holy Spirit, or God in the Form of a Spirit, and Jesus of course is God in the Form of a man, but nobody knows the exact Form of God the/Our Heavenly Father Jesus spoke of, who has always been the Highest of All, including God the Son, and God the (Holy) Spirit.

The only one who started out with All Knowledge was only this Highest One Jesus first truly introduced us to or spoke of, and that One's only limitation with having All knowledge always was that One's ability to show Him/itself to us because of being the only One having all knowledge from the very beginning always, which created a need for another one or two to be able to make his heart/mind/will/emotions (personality/ways) known to us because he would naturally have an inability to show us these things due to having all knowledge about everything always, etc.

It required a certain amount of ignorance for that One to show us what he is like, because it would have to include a not all knowing beginning, then middle, and then eventually, full maturity, and/or and ending to that development/growth, and we would have to witness that process the entire way, etc. Not possible if you always know everything always, etc.

This whole universe is deterministic also, which is another part you are missing, etc.

This will only begin you down the path of reconciling everything that was said, or the two, at first glance contradicting/opposing thoughts/ideas/philosophies found in both the old and new testaments respectively, etc. None of them accurately knew about judgement, even though a lot of them only thought they did, etc. The key to that lies between the two opposing philosophies/schools of thought, that along with some of these other keys I have just given you, and with adding our God given powers of reason/deduction to the mix after that, allows us to know/discern/figure out the truth, etc.

If we were all-knowing, then we would be completely deviod of any kind of real personality, and feelings, unless we were faking it, or were somehow deceiving others probably, and would have no real way to show ourselves to any others in any kind of meaningful way that would cause us to be able to become known to or by any others. It is probably the one and only limitation of full omniscience. That's why we have the others, and why God is a Trinity, etc. Just not the Trinity in the way that we have all been classically taught probably, etc, and good luck in trying to get the rest of the churches to accept this BTW. They think it's blasphemy, etc.

The other two are the Bridge, and truly are the only way we can even get close to being able to quote/unquote "see" the God, our "Heavenly Father", etc. Jesus figured all this out, and told us to our faces, and did not lie, it's all in his words, etc. And he was the first, and the rest of us can only know this because of what he did, and because of his words, and his finding this out first, etc. He said many would come after him though, etc.

Take Care/God Bless.


First off, their were two different races, that I think were even completely different species of humans, one specially created at the height of hubris by God the Spirit (but not God the Heavenly Father Jesus spoke of) (because that One actually created him/them, etc) (The Holy Spirit and his Angels, etc) but and/or anyway, in the region of ancient Mesopotamia around 7-8 thousand years ago in a small local region in the area (Garden of Eden) around 7-8 thousand years ago when that region was one of the most fertile places on the entire planet before a localized flood that turned the area into a desert where almost nothing would grow after that, etc. (Rain water got mixed with some sea water with salt in it, etc).

These specially created ones done at the height of hubris of God the Holy Spirit and his Angels I like to call "homo-divinus", and were probably about 12 feet tall or so, and were genetically superior to the homo-sapiens that had come through natural evolution in the earth up to that point, etc.

The original plan was for a ruling kingdom/nation with these specially created ones that would rule over all other species on the planet, including the much more smaller, much more genetically inferior, homo-sapiens that had come up on the earth through natural evolution up to that point, if they kept their species/race pure that is, and did not mix with any others up to that point, etc. But of course, after Eden, they eventually started running into these evolved ones, and started to have sex with them, that produced some hybrid children that was an "abomination" to God the Spirit that had made them, etc. They had also become exceedingly wicked much more beyond that, so that God the Spirit declared that he had regretted that he had made them, etc.

And that of course was when he got angry enough to wipe almost all of them out with a local flood that would forever change that entire region as far as plant life goes, etc. The remaining ones after that would eventually have no other choice than to breed with the evolved ones, and whom were now much more numerous than the few homo-divinus that were remaining after that, and needless to say, their species became diminished to almost non-existent in a relatively very short period of time, except for some hybrid children that some cultures would try to keep for a while after that through selective breeding after that, etc.

Anyway, it's a real world possibility that can't be disproven yet, as it contradicts nothing in evolution or science or the earth's age/history up to that point.

It's important to note also that the creation account in genesis perfectly parallels evolution if each "day" is a long age, etc. And the first chapter of Genesis should have ended at Chapter 2 verse 4 instead of where they decided to end it, etc, as Genesis 2:4 reads that everything stated up to that point was a very, very short summary of any entire earth's/planets lifespan/creation/history from beginning to end. Chapter 2 verse 5 instantly takes us to very, very late on day 6, which is still where we are at right now until day 7 starts when Jesus comes back, etc, and that too, will be a very long "day" until this whole entire earth is about to be done away with, and then it's either Heaven, or a new earth after that, etc.

Anyway, these are some of the other possibilities that you might not be considering, etc.

Oh, the sun and the moon were not "created" on day 4, but were "revealed/uncovered" (volcanic dust and ash) to the rest of the surface of the planet after that, etc, that allowed more complex plant life to start evolving and getting much more complex after that, etc. Then came the Sea creatures (day 5) and then the land creatures after that (day 6) (that we're still on, etc) (but day 7 is coming, etc)

I know I'm still leaving out a lot, but hopefully this will be enough to get you started in at the very least considering or entertaining this possibility for a little while, etc.

God Bless.
I don't know what that was. I do skip paragraphs built on religious terms, though. Not sure why you thought this would be on-topic.
 
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There is no need to think of "purpose" here.

I don't know what that was. I do skip paragraphs built on religious terms, though. Not sure why you thought this would be on-topic.
I'm asking if you think this is a possibility or not? Or if you think it's maybe more possible than what you've maybe heard on here, or from others out there in the world? Other churches, theologians and such? Calculating a possibility falls within the realm of science, right?

Take Care.
 
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I'm asking if you think this is a possibility or not?
What is more possible? All I saw was a bunch of religious talk. Not sure what it was about.
Or if you think it's maybe more possible than what you've maybe heard on here, or from others out there in the world? Other churches, theologians and such? Calculating a possibility falls within the realm of science, right?

Take Care.
Science doesn't calculate probabilities of religious claims.
 
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What is more possible?

Science doesn't calculate probabilities of religious claims.
Science should explore the possibility or probability of any claim if it's possible.
 
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Science should explore the possibility or probability of any claim if it's possible.
Science examines natural explanations for natural phenomena. Your rambling claim didn't look very natural.
 
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Science examines natural explanations for natural phenomena. Your rambling claim didn't look very natural.
This one is potentially very natural.

And as for my claim, you didn't even read it, so...?

Take Care.
 
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This one is potentially very natural.

And as for my claim, you didn't even read it, so...?
I gave up after these two paragraphs. Let me show you why:

The apparent on the surface at first glance contradictions between two opposing schools of thought/philosophies/viewpoints are there on purpose for us to use our powers of reason to figure out or discern the truth, or figure out how they can come together/be fully reconciled for us to know the balance/truth.
"schools of thought" and "philosophies" and "viewpoints" are not scientific. At this point it is unlikely that this is a valid subject for this section. Next...
And a few keys to this that will only just only start you down this correct road is to know that Our Heavenly Father/Jesus Father that Jesus first introduced us to/spoke about is not God in the Old Testament, but that God in the Old Testament is/was actually lesser, and is God the Holy Spirit, or God in the Form of a Spirit, and Jesus of course is God in the Form of a man, but nobody knows the exact Form of God the/Our Heavenly Father Jesus spoke of, who has always been the Highest of All, including God the Son, and God the (Holy) Spirit.
The moment you bring in "Jesus" and "Heavenly Father" and "Old Testement" you are talking about religion, and certainly not science. There is no reason for anyone interested in discussing science to go any further. You've clearly given up on the notion of doing something relevant to the board.
Take Care.
 
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Also, everything in this universe/reality is a contradiction, but that's also by design, etc. In everything here, we're given two different truths to reconcile, but it's also by design, etc.
With that perspective, lsd may be of some help to you
 
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The apparent on the surface at first glance contradictions between two opposing schools of thought/philosophies/viewpoints are there on purpose for us to use our powers of reason to figure out or discern the truth, or figure out how they can come together/be fully reconciled for us to know the balance/truth.
Disagree. This has not been established.
 
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Disagree. This has not been established.
An equation is a contradiction until it is solved/resolved/balanced out, and this whole universe is just one big giant equation basically, and all of the rest of the information we are presented with in this universe/reality/world is no different, including "truth", and including all of ideas/truths found in the bible, or in religion/science/physics/philosophy, or in almost any other subject/school of thought, etc, etc, etc.

Take Care/God Bless.
 
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An equation is a contradiction until it is solved/resolved/balanced out, and this whole universe is just one big giant equation basically, and all of the rest of the information we are presented with in this universe/reality/world is no different, including "truth", and including all of ideas/truths found in the bible, or in religion/science/physics/philosophy, or in almost any other subject/school of thought, etc, etc, etc.

Take Care/God Bless.
One of the biggest contradictions in the Bible, for example, and that is found over and over again in the Bible, and one of the ones that a lot of people are concerned with (as they should be, because it's also about judgement, or God's judgement) is law and grace, or the standard of perfection that is the law, and things like mercy, and love, and forgiveness, and such, because they are contradictory, etc, and that is why I also said in my OP that none have truly known it before this, or how it should be reconciled, or how to reconcile them/it, etc, but I know what it is, or I know how now, etc.

Take Care/God Bless.
 
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I don't think it can be disproven?
You need to show that it can be disproven (potentially). In any discussion of science that is obvious.
 
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