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US Attacks Venezuela: Explosions in Caracas

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You're not a Christian Nationalist are you? That's what's getting old.
I am not and most Christians are not either. Nothing in my post had anything to do with Christianity hence your Strawman. Frankly we’ve talked about this before and I find it offensive that you bunch up a religion because of your hate of it. Your attacks are not welcomed.
 
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Of course. That doesn't justify the current action.
It does. Maduro destroyed a country and is no different (actually worse) than Noriega back in 1989. Why are you supporting a dictator that has abused civil rights and destroyed the Venezuelan economy to line his pockets?
 
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It does. Maduro destroyed a country and is no different (actually worse) than Noriega back in 1989.

No, it does not. One assumes our country should learn from its past mistakes no?

It remains to be seen if this administration can prosecute Maduro in a court of law.


Why are you supporting a dictator that has abused civil rights and destroyed the Venezuelan economy to line his pockets?

Don't presume to know who I support or my positioin.
 
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I am not and most Christians are not either. Nothing in my post had anything to do with Christianity hence your Strawman. Frankly we’ve talked about this before and I find it offensive that you bunch up a religion because of your hate of it. Your attacks are not welcomed.
Frankly, everything this administration does reflects on Christianity in the US because it wouldn't be happening without the support of many conservative/MAGA Christians. As a Christian, I'm ashamed and frustrated that Christians can't seem to do better.
 
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I am not defending this action. However, I will point out back in the 1960s the Kennedy administration likely wanted to do something similar with Fidel Castro. I also wonder if Putin will use this action to justify a "capture" of Zelensky" or if Xi Jinping will attempt to "capture" Lai Ching-te.
 
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President Trump called into “Fox & Friends” this morning, taking credit for the operation and praising the military efforts. “What he did with drugs is bad, what he did with a lot of other things was bad,” Trump said. “If you think about it, they emptied out all of their mental institutions into our country.



The POTUS has yet to address the country after attacking another country. Yet, he can't resist calling in to a talk show?

Add: "they emptied out all of their mental institutions" to the evolving jusitfication.....
 
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No, it does not. One assumes our country should learn from its past mistakes no?
I don’t consider deposing of a dictator to be a mistake. I consider removing him to bring life back into a country that has been suffering for quite some time. All you have to do is look at the jubilant faces of the Venezuelans celebrating his demise.
It remains to be seen if this administration can prosecute Maduro in a court of law.
There is a successful precedent with the prosecution of Noriega.
Don't presume to know who I support or my positioin.
I don’t have to presume.
 
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Frankly, everything this administration does reflects on Christianity in the US because it wouldn't be happening without the support of many conservative/MAGA Christians. As a Christian, I'm ashamed and frustrated that Christians can't seem to do better.
As a Christian you should also know that a good portion of Christians do not support Trump including me. Christianity did not cause Trump. The lack of a Democratic Party message, among other things, caused Trump.
 
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It remains to be seen if this administration can prosecute Maduro in a court of law.
Emanuel Noriega shows a precedent. There are already indictments against Maduro, at least one dating back to 2019. The only question is if the charges will stick in court.
 
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I don’t consider deposing of a dictator to be a mistake. I consider removing him to bring life back into a country that has been suffering for quite some time. All you have to do is look at the jubilant faces of the Venezuelans celebrating his demise.

Will you say the same if Trump declares the leader of Colombia to be a "narco terrorist" and remove him from power?

There is a successful precedent with the prosecution of Noriega.

Yes. And the former president of Honduras who was prosecuted in U.S. Courts.

Trump pardoned him.

And now he removes another leader based on drug trafficking charges?

Are you really going to run with that argument?
 
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I am not and most Christians are not either. Nothing in my post had anything to do with Christianity hence your Strawman. Frankly we’ve talked about this before and I find it offensive that you bunch up a religion because of your hate of it. Your attacks are not welcomed.
Well, it comes up fairly frequently in these discussions about Venezuela. For instance, when so many of the Christians in this forum praised killing those two Venezuelan drug smugglers clinging to the wreckage of their boat as a righteous act. It's pretty clear that the moral compass of Trump-supporting Christians points only to themselves.
 
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Will you say the same if Trump declares the leader of Colombia to be a "narco terrorist" and remove him from power?
But we are not talking about Columbia are we? How about FDR and Honduras and Nicaragua?
Yes. And the former president of Honduras who was prosecuted in U.S. Courts.

Trump pardoned him.

And now he removes another leader based on drug trafficking charges?
He did pardon him. Do I agree with it? No.
Are you really going to run with that argument?
Facts? Yep.
 
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Well, it comes up fairly frequently in these discussions about Venezuela. For instance, when so many of the Christians in this forum praised killing those two Venezuelan drug smugglers clinging to the wreckage of their boat as a righteous act. It's pretty clear that the moral compass of Trump-supporting Christians points only to themselves.
Individuals do not represent the whole of Christianity just as every Christian is not an evangelical Christian. Stop your Strawman.
 
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Frankly, everything this administration does reflects on Christianity in the US because it wouldn't be happening without the support of many conservative/MAGA Christians. As a Christian, I'm ashamed and frustrated that Christians can't seem to do better.
Oh stop the virtue signaling, because when it comes to politics there is no Christian.
 
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