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Asking AI to explain Sunday observance when NT has no such command

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It doesn’t say that at all.

“You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3‬:‭2‬-‭3‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

The “You” is referring to the congregation, that is the letter that is written in our hearts. The letter of Christ, not written with ink or stone but written with the Holy Spirit. It doesn’t say anything about the tablets of stone being written in our hearts.
2 Cor 3:3 clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God,

Which law was written by the Spirit of the living God?

The Ten Commandments

Exo 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

What is the finger of God

Luke 11:20 But if I cast out demons with the finger of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Mat 12:28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.

not on tablets of stone

Which law is being spoken of here? What law was written on tablets of stone by the Spirit of God?

Deu 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

And where did they go?

but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart.

Which is what the New Covenant is about God's laws now written in the heart, not changing the words of the covenant as God promises Psa89:34

The Bible explains Itself if we allow it to.
 
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Since there is no command in the new covenant to keep the 4th commandment (unless a verse can be found that requires the Christian to keep the Jewish sabbath) and since Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath and the Christian rest is now in Him, and since the rest can be taken any day of the week, then why would there be a command necessary to keep Sunday?
 
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2 Cor 3:3 clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God,

Which law was written by the Spirit of the living God?
Why are you omitting the last portion of the verse?

“being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3‬:‭3‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to your reading of the verse the passage could also read that the letter of the law that was written in ink could also be written on our hearts. But you’re choosing to interpret it that the letter written in ink is not what was written on our hearts but the letter that was written in stone was written on our hearts even tho Paul specifically said that the ministry of death and condemnation that was written in stone would fade away and be replaced with the letter written on our hearts through the Holy Spirit. You’re cherry picking the passages.

What Paul is saying in Colossians 2:3 is that the letter that was written in ink and on stone tablets is not what is written on our hearts because 98% of Christians don’t feel any conviction from the Holy Spirit to observe the sabbath. They do however feel obligated to observe the other 9 commandments. So obviously your interpretation doesn’t align with what we actually see taking place in the hearts of Christians.
 
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Why are you omitting the last portion of the verse?

“being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3‬:‭3‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to your reading of the verse the passage could also read that the letter of the law that was written in ink could also be written on our hearts. But you’re choosing to interpret it that the letter written in ink is not what was written on our hearts but the letter that was written in stone was written on our hearts even tho Paul specifically said that the ministry of death and condemnation that was written in stone would fade away and be replaced with the letter written on our hearts through the Holy Spirit. You’re cherry picking the passages.

What Paul is saying in Colossians 2:3 is that the letter that was written in ink and on stone tablets is not what is written on our hearts because 98% of Christians don’t feel any conviction from the Holy Spirit to observe the sabbath. They do however feel obligated to observe the other 9 commandments. So obviously your interpretation doesn’t align with what we actually see taking place in the hearts of Christians.
How did I omit it? Please -re-read my post, it wasn’t omitted, it explains where the law of tablets of stone went, which is what God said - His laws written in the heart Heb8:10 not altering the words Psa89:34 Mat5:18-19

Why anyone would want to make Paul contradict himself Rom7:7 Rom2:21-23 Rom 7:12 Rom8:7-8 Rom13:9 Eph 6:2 or Jesus Mat 15:3-19 Mark 7:7-13 Mat19:17-19 Mat5:19-30 Rev 22:14-15 and think that is harmonizing Scripture. The Bible is not full of contradictions and not one place did Jesus ever teach we do not need to keep the commandments of God, not in teaching or in actions, He very much taught the opposite.
 
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Why did you micro-quote me? How did I omit it? Please -re-read my post, it wasn’t omitted, it explains where the law of tablets of stone went, which is what God said - His laws written in the heart Heb8:10 not altering the words Psa89:34 Mat5:18-19

Why anyone would want to make Paul contradict himself Rom7:7 Rom2:21-23 Rom8:7-8 Rom13:9 Eph 6:2 or Jesus Mat 15:3-19 Mark 7:7-13 Mat19:17-19 Mat5:19-30 Rev 22:14-15 and think that is harmonizing Scripture. The Bible is not full of contradictions and not one place did Jesus ever teach we do not need to keep the commandments of God, not in teaching or in actions, He very much taught the opposite.
The whole point Paul is making in Colossians 2 is the exact same point he’s making in 2 Corinthians 3:7-11.

having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭14‬-‭15‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory? For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory. For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory because of the glory that surpasses it. For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3‬:‭7‬-‭11‬ ‭NASB

In Colossians 2 he’s talking about the decrees that were AGAINST US AND WAS HOSTILE TOWARDS US. That’s exactly what he said that the letters written in stone were. They were a ministry of death and condemnation, hence they were decrees AGAINST US that brought death and condemnation and that ministry has faded away. The ministry of death and condemnation was written on stones the ministry of the Spirit is not the same ministry that was written on stones. He’s talking about two different ministries not two different methods for giving them to us. You’re saying that the same ministry of death and condemnation is what is written on our hearts, not that it’s a different ministry but the same ministry given to us by a different method, that’s not what Paul said. The ministry written on our hearts is a completely different ministry.
 
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The whole point Paul is making in Colossians 2 is the exact same point he’s making in 2 Corinthians 3:7-11.

having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭14‬-‭15‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory? For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory. For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory because of the glory that surpasses it. For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3‬:‭7‬-‭11‬ ‭NASB

In Colossians 2 he’s talking about the decrees that were AGAINST US AND WAS HOSTILE TOWARDS US. That’s exactly what he said that the letters written in stone were. They were a ministry of death and condemnation, hence they were decrees AGAINST US that brought death and condemnation and that ministry has faded away. The ministry of death and condemnation was written on stones the ministry of the Spirit is not the same ministry that was written on stones. He’s talking about two different ministries not two different methods for giving them to us. You’re saying that the same ministry of death and condemnation is what is written on our hearts, not that it’s a different ministry but the same ministry given to us by a different method, that’s not what Paul said. The ministry written on our hearts is a completely different ministry.
You’re reading two different passages and not looking at the context of either one. You went from abolishing the Sabbath commandment to now abolishing all of the Ten Commandments, the opposite of what God said, the opposite of what Paul said. The second greatest commandment is from the Ten Commandments Rom13:9 so is the greatest commandment to love God with all our hearts, minds and souls Deut6:5 who does that by worshipping others gods, or bowing to idols, or using the holy name of God in vain or breaking His holy Sabbath day. These two commandments the entire Bible hangs on, so now Paul abolished what Jesus said again? The warning of what people would do to the writings of Paul and how stern it is, really makes sense.

The Ten Commandments is the ministry of death because the wages of sin is death Rom6:23 if not in Christ. The law is not the issue, Paul said the law is holy, just and good Rom7:12, the issue is our sinful flesh. Those who have the Spirit of God and His ministry are keeping God’s commandments through His Spirit John14:15-18 those who walk in the flesh do not subject themselves to the law of God nor indeed can they Rom8:7-8
 
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You’re reading two different passages and not looking at the context of either one. You went from abolishing the Sabbath commandment to now abolishing all of the Ten Commandments, the opposite of what God said, the opposite of what Paul said.
No I didn’t, you’re extrapolating what I said. I just told you like 2 posts ago that all Christians agree about the other 9, didn’t I?
 
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You’re reading two different passages and not looking at the context of either one. You went from abolishing the Sabbath commandment to now abolishing all of the Ten Commandments, the opposite of what God said, the opposite of what Paul said. The second greatest commandment is from the Ten Commandments Rom13:9 so is the greatest commandment to love God with all our hearts, minds and souls Deut6:5 who does that by worshipping others gods, or bowing to idols, or using the holy name of God in vain or breaking His holy Sabbath day. These two commandments the entire Bible hangs on, so now Paul abolished what Jesus said again? The warning of what people would do to the writings of Paul and how stern it is, really makes sense.

The Ten Commandments is the ministry of death because the wages of sin is death Rom6:23 if not in Christ. The law is not the issue, Paul said the law is holy, just and good Rom7:12, the issue is our sinful flesh. Those who have the Spirit of God and His ministry are keeping God’s commandments through His Spirit John14:15-18 those who walk in the flesh do not subject themselves to the law of God nor indeed can they Rom8:7-8
And no the two greatest commandments are not given in the 10 commandments they’re given in Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18.
 
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And no the two greatest commandments are not given in the 10 commandments they’re given in Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18.
Read what was quoted before this was said that Jesus quoted from. Deut 6:5 what Paul said summed up the second greatest commandment Rom 13:9 Love to God love to man never went undefined by God Exo 20;6 1 John 5:2-3 and redefined by man.
 
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No I didn’t, you’re extrapolating what I said. I just told you like 2 posts ago that all Christians agree about the other 9, didn’t I?
Than how can Paul be saying they ended in 2 Cor 3:3 contradicting himself and God.

There is no such thing as 9 commandments it’s unbiblical. Forgetting what God to Remember and doing the opposite
 
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Read what was quoted before this was said that Jesus quoted from. Deut 6:5 what Paul said summed up the second greatest commandment Rom 13:9 Love to God love to man never went undefined by God Exo 20;6 1 John 5:2-3 and redefined by man.
Yeah according to Jesus the WHOLE LAW is based on those two commandments, not just the 10 commandments.

“On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭22‬:‭40‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Oh and BTW these weren’t written on stone tablets by the finger of God, they were written in ink by Moses. And yet you don’t see me accusing you of teaching that they’ve been abolished, that’s because I know that’s not your official position. So please do me the same courtesy in the future by not accusing me of teaching that all of the 10 commandments have been abolished.
 
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Read what was quoted before this was said that Jesus quoted from. Deut 6:5 what Paul said summed up the second greatest commandment Rom 13:9 Love to God love to man never went undefined by God Exo 20;6 1 John 5:2-3 and redefined by man.
Are you saying that Exodus 20:6 is an 11th commandment?
 
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Than how can Paul be saying they ended in 2 Cor 3:3 contradicting himself and God.

There is no such thing as 9 commandments it’s unbiblical. Forgetting what God to Remember and doing the opposite
Then you have to apply this same logic to the two greatest commandments that were written in ink by Moses. You can’t have 11 commandments in the Decalogue. If you’re not willing to accept that the two greatest commandments that weren’t written in stone were abolished then you shouldn’t expect me to accept that 9 of the 10 commandments that weren’t written in stone were abolished either. If you’re going to insist that my interpretation of 2 Corinthians 3 mandates that all of the commandments written in stone were abolished then you’re going to have to apply that same reasoning to the laws that weren’t written written in ink which would mean that the two greatest commandments must also be abolished along with the rest of the laws.
 
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Than how can Paul be saying they ended in 2 Cor 3:3 contradicting himself and God.

There is no such thing as 9 commandments it’s unbiblical. Forgetting what God to Remember and doing the opposite
First of all He didn’t say that to gentiles and second the Decalogue was a sign of the Old Covenant with Israel, it has nothing to do with the New Covenant. Just because the covenant has changed doesn’t mean that all of the old laws are abolished, many of the original laws can still be continued in the New Covenant.
 
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Yeah according to Jesus the WHOLE LAW is based on those two commandments, not just the 10 commandments.

“On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭22‬:‭40‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Oh and BTW these weren’t written on stone tablets by the finger of God, they were written in ink by Moses. And yet you don’t see me accusing you of teaching that they’ve been abolished, that’s because I know that’s not your official position. So please do me the same courtesy in the future by not accusing me of teaching that all of the 10 commandments have been abolished.
The law and prophets means all of the Scripture. The entire Bible hangs on these two greatest commandments- loving God with all our heart and loving man. Why man insists this means breaking the law of God is loving God with all our heart is beyond me and something we will all have to answer to soon enough.

The entire Bible is about the testimony of God through His prophets and apostles, but yet when it comes to God's own personal Testimony Exo31:18 written by God, not man, man just tosses it aside as if it doesn;t matter. It shows how far we have come, something we were warned would happen 2Tim4:3-4
 
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Are you saying that Exodus 20:6 is an 11th commandment?
What a strange comment. God gave the Ten Commandments and He numbered them by design, not 9 not 11, but Ten. Exo34:28 Deut4:13 He wrote them He spoke them and man is not above Him to change anything because man is not God. He said in the Ten Commandments Exo20:6 sadly, not everyone does.
 
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Then you have to apply this same logic to the two greatest commandments that were written in ink by Moses. You can’t have 11 commandments in the Decalogue. If you’re not willing to accept that the two greatest commandments that weren’t written in stone were abolished then you shouldn’t expect me to accept that 9 of the 10 commandments that weren’t written in stone were abolished either. If you’re going to insist that my interpretation of 2 Corinthians 3 mandates that all of the commandments written in stone were abolished then you’re going to have to apply that same reasoning to the laws that weren’t written written in ink which would mean that the two greatest commandments must also be abolished along with the rest of the laws.
The law of Moses was added because of sin for breaking the law of God, the Ten Commandments 1John3:4 James2:11 Mat5:19-30 Rom7:7. It contained how to love God, how to love man which is the Ten Commandments summarized, it had the blessings and the curses for breaking the law of God, the Ten Commandments, why it was beside the ark as a witness against. Deut 31:24-26 In the New Covenant God wrote His laws in the NC believers hearts Jer 31:33 Heb8:10 and are kept through His Spirit and their love and cooperation with Him based on what He does John14:15-18 sadly, not everyone accepts God's NC and rebels against the law of God Rom8:7-8 God will never force anyone to obey Him or to Remember what He asked us to, its through love and faith. Exo20:6 John14:15 1John5:3 Rev14:12 which is how those who are in a covenant relationship with Him are reconciled Rev22:14. If the Ten Commandments was kept the way Jesus explained them Mat5:19-30 magnified- in our hearts Heb8:10 what He came do to with this law Isa 42:21 there would be no more sin in the world so the greatest commandments would be kept- loving God with all our heart and loving man Rom13:9. Sadly the majority does not want to come out of their sins and Scripture tells us why John3:19-21

I think we are way too far apart in our understanding of the Word of God. I am not sure debating this further is going to help. God will sort it all out soon enough, but wish you well.
 
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The law and prophets means all of the Scripture. The entire Bible hangs on these two greatest commandments- loving God with all our heart and loving man. Why man insists this means breaking the law of God is loving God with all our heart is beyond me and something we will all have to answer to soon enough.

The entire Bible is about the testimony of God through His prophets and apostles, but yet when it comes to God's own personal Testimony Exo31:18 written by God, not man, man just tosses it aside as if it doesn;t matter. It shows how far we have come, something we were warned would happen 2Tim4:3-4
Every testimony from the prophets comes from God, they are all God’s testimonies because they didn’t originate from man.

And in regard to your quote from 2 Timothy 4:3-4 is this how you view all Christians who don’t worship on the sabbath?

“For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3‬:‭2‬-‭4‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

We worship on Sunday in order to be disobedient to God? We don’t worship on Sunday because we love Him? Is that what you’re saying here?
 
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What a strange comment. God gave the Ten Commandments and He numbered them by design, not 9 not 11, but Ten. Exo34:28 Deut4:13 He wrote them He spoke them and man is not above Him to change anything because man is not God. He said in the Ten Commandments Exo20:6 sadly, not everyone does.
But you’re saying that verse 6 is a commandment. Saying not to worship idols and to love God are two different commandments. So if you count the number of commandments including verse 6 as a commandment to love God then you come up with 11 commandments. It’s not hard to see this, you’re just refusing to admit it.
 
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