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Trump’s Deputies Freeze Child Care Payments to Minnesota amid Alleged Somali Fraud

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Good on you Nick. You are a modern day Gretta but in a positive way lol. You are switched on and seek the truth and want what is good for everyone. We need more Nicks.

What he is basically doing is tracing the money. X business at X address is registered to recieve X amount of money from the government for services.

He just goes to the businesses as a member of the public and finds over and over again no business or service. In other words the center in question had 1 million allocated. The other one the Mako child care center had two centers registered at that address. Totally 5 million in allocated funds.

Now times that by all the others. Nick is exposing millions of dollars in fraud that has been stolen from the most volnurable people in society. And that is not counting what has yet to be exposed under all the other government schemes like transport, housing feeding ect.

This will be the biggest fraud in the history of the US.

Be outraged by that if anything. So yes stop the funding and insist that people prove their eligibility and justify spending tax payers money. Thats how its suppose to work. People are sick of these politicians who claim to be working for good and just rip people off.
 
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And that she believes more white people will be found to be the masterminds behind the fraud.
She did not say that it's because black people are too stupid. That's you.
Let her speak for herself
I haven't stopped her, at all. If that's your way of telling me to shut up, I won't if I have something to say.

Apologies to @CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN if I'm stepping on your toes in this thread.
 
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She did not say that it's because black people are too stupid. That's you.

I haven't stopped her, at all. If that's your way of telling me to shut up, I won't if I have something to say.

Apologies to @CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN if I'm stepping on your toes in this thread.
Wrong person. I never said anything about black people, I said that her defense of the Samalis was that they were not capable of pulling off the fraud without white masterminds. Yes, I know that they are black.
I didn’t tell you to shut up, but two of you are taking up MB, I think she’s capable of answering for herself
 
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Wrong person. I never said anything about black people, I said that her defense of the Samalis was that they were not capable of pulling off the fraud without white masterminds.
And that. of course is a lie. The same racist lie that Christians tell when they accuse the "left" of thinking that black people are too stupid to get voter IDs.
 
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And that. of course is a lie. The same racist lie that Christians tell when they accuse the "left" of thinking that black people are too stupid to get voter IDs.
Simply read what she posted, now there are 3 of you speaking for her. She said that a white mastermind was behind the fraud and that she was sure more white masterminds would be involved
She was attempting to stereotype white people but in the process stereotyped Somalis
 
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Wrong person. I never said anything about black people, I said that her defense of the Samalis was that they were not capable of pulling off the fraud without white masterminds. Yes, I know that they are black.
Okay, my mistake. She didn't say that Somalis were incapable, simply that the actual mastermind was a white woman.
I didn’t tell you to shut up, but two of you are taking up MB, I think she’s capable of answering for herself
What does "let her speak for herself" mean considering I was in no way hindering her? If I think your criticism is wrongheaded and unwarranted, I will say so without stopping anyone else from contributing.

What's "MB" and what does it mean "to take up MB"?


Simply read what she posted, now there are 3 of you speaking for her.
I'm not speaking for @CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN but arguing that your saying that she implied something is not so, just your own inference. Since you dispute my pov, I continue to argue. That other people argue the same point is immaterial to the argument.
She said that a white mastermind was behind the fraud and that she was sure more white masterminds would be involved
Aimee Bock was the mastermind and she is a white woman. Saying a particular group is vulnerable to exploitation is not calling them stupid or incapable.
 
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Okay, my mistake. She didn't say that Somalis were incapable, simply that the actual mastermind was a white woman.

What does "let her speak for herself" mean considering I was in no way hindering her? If I think your criticism is wrongheaded and unwarranted, I will say so without stopping anyone else from contributing.

What's "MB" and what does it mean "to take up MB"?
MB is the person whose post you are arguing about
 
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Simply read what she posted, now there are 3 of you speaking for her. She said that a white mastermind was behind the fraud and that she was sure more white masterminds would be involved
Because she thinks Somali's are too stupid to pull it off? Maybe she thinks that they were basically too honest to come up with it by themselves unless they're were talked into it.
 
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Lying is different. Lying is knowing the truth but saying the opposite.
You don't need to know that truth in order to lie - you just need to know that what you're saying isn't true. But if you want to be pedantic, we can call him dishonest, misleading, or deceptive. I don't see how that fundamentally changes the meaning of what I said.

And I don't know about you, but a locked door and windows not being able to be seen through from the outside seem like perfectly normal security measures for a daycare. I can tell you that the daycare I mentioned before also had locked doors, and you could not see in through the windows either. Again, he took perfectly ordinary reactions/security measures and painted them as nefarious in order to "prove" that the daycare was fraudulent. That is dishonest, misleading, deceptive - or a lie, if you will.
 
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Because she thinks Somali's are too stupid to pull it off? Maybe she thinks that they were basically too honest to come up with it by themselves unless they're were talked into it.
Talked into it by white people. Yes, that’s what she was going for, don’t blame the poor immigrants at all, they were taken advantage of by the evil white people masterminds
 
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I clearly want to remind everyone that the first fraud allegation and subsequent conviction in 2022 the Feeding Our Future meal scheme, was invented and orchestrated by the evil master mind of a non- Somallian woman, Aimee Bock aka " the white woman". She was able to convince and manipulate some Somalian restaurant owners to falsifie documents for reimbursement. Lets not join this band wagon against many, many innocent people because one person decided to be evil.
I have no doubt more " white people " will be discovered as the ring leaders of any future uncovered schemes. It wouldn't be the first time that a vulnerable group of people are manipulated or coerced into such actions.

So your defense of the Somalis is that they are not smart enough to pull this off without white people in charge?

@BPPLEE How does your question relate to the post you quoted? There is nothing in that quote that talks about smartness.
 
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@BPPLEE How does your question relate to the post you quoted? There is nothing in that quote that talks about smartness.
Four of you are now speaking for her. She believes there are more white masterminds involved, implying the Somalis are not the masterminds.
 
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Four of you are now speaking for her. She believes there are more white masterminds involved, implying the Somalis are not the masterminds.
No, I'm talking about you and your interpretation. How did you come to your conclusion? Why did you think she was talking about smartness?
 
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No, I'm talking about you and your interpretation. How did you come to your conclusion? Why did you think she was talking about smartness?
For some reason she believes white people are the brains behind the fraud. Just read her post.
 
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For some reason she believes white people are the brains behind the fraud. Just read her post.
You are the one to make this about being the "brains" (smartness), that is what a plain reading of the posts says. Thus why I asked you why you went there?
 
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Here at ~3:10-3:20 he seems to allege that there were no children.


You are showing a video from CNN. I watched the actual video from Shirley. He had daycare that had no children. He also had the evidence from paperwork. He also went a building that was filled with healthcare groups. They all had zero customers and wouldn't provide any services. Yet they are collecting millions and millions of dollars of taxpayer money. Frauds. I did find one daycare there with no evidence that children were there, but they at least offered him a rate.

Its clear there is fraud going on. And you guys want to focus on a guy helping to expose it. He is not the only one. There are news articles as well. The last place tgey went to had 4 daycare centers licensed in ONE building with a total 100 children. They received over 2 million dollars. They could see in windows and there were no children. Its a total fraud and you want to make accusations against the ONE of the people revealing the fraud. The Minnesota legislature admits there was fraud. And their answer is to claim there is fraud everywhere.

You should watch the video.
 
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You are the one to make this about being the "brains" (smartness), that is what a plain reading of the posts says. Thus why I asked you why you went there?
"Masterminds" her words
 
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Talked into it by white people. Yes, that’s what she was going for, don’t blame the poor immigrants at all, they were taken advantage of by the evil white people masterminds
Don't bother to double down. A lie is still a lie.
 
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