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Trump’s Deputies Freeze Child Care Payments to Minnesota amid Alleged Somali Fraud

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"The fraud has been quietly described in many news outlets over the last few years. However, Democrats suppressed public recognition of the mass fraud by their political allies until last week, when independent journalist Nick Shirley posted a series of man-on-the-street videos showing empty child care centers."
Stealing money that is supposed to help children is particularly despicable. Given the situation, requiring evidence that a payment is legitimate before handing over taxpayer money is a responsible step to take.
 
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I think children's issues are a big deal, and fraud shouldn't happen at all. But to trust Trumps and his people is a big joke.
 
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So punish the children?
Don't do it. Our Minnesota kids have had perhaps half of the money allocated to them stolen, they have suffered enough. Pausing payments is reasonable anytime there is massive fraud so the legitimate places can be distinguished from the crooked. There's also a huge problem with the Minnesota adult day care payoffs and kickbacks. Additionally, are the Somali problems being overlooked because they are a large DFL constituency. There is suppose to be at least one unannounced visit a year to each day care facility, did the state not do such because they were Somalis?
 
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I think children's issues are a big deal, and fraud shouldn't happen at all. But to trust Trumps and his people is a big joke.
Remember 65,000 children have been rescued by the Trump administration, many of them were sexually abused. The Biden administration lost track of hundreds of thousands, stopped the DNA testing at the border, and handed over children to unrelated adults. Don't let your dislike of Trump make you think he can't be successful, he was more successful than Biden and more than Harris ever would have been. Studying the root causes didn't help the children one bit.
 
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So punish the children?

Ultimately, I think they need to do a deep dive and determine how many of the payments were actually going to centers that actually had children there, and how many were virtually empty (or completely empty) like the ones shown in some of the recently-circulating videos.

And then determine how much fraudulent loss is an acceptable amount to tolerate in the name of making sure children have the funded child care needed.

Obviously that number's never going to 0. Nor does it have to be an expectation of 0. I'm a pragmatist, I get it. When it comes to government spending, the old saying goes "There's no other way to transfer money, but with a leaky bucket".

...but obviously there's a tipping point.

I'd say if a program starts having a fraudulent loss percentage that gets north of 10%, like what happened with federal Covid aid, it's not unreasonable to pause and re-think and re-tool.

Even the New York times and Gov. Walz himself are acknowledging that this isn't just a tiny outlier issue.
Two weeks ago, Mr. Walz applauded new federal charges in a widening, yearslong federal investigation into his state’s social services programs and promised that state officials were working to overhaul the troubled system.

Mr. Walz, who is seeking re-election, wrote in an opinion piece in The Minnesota Star Tribune this month that his state had made “significant progress” in rooting out fraud in its social services system but had “much more to do.”
“And it’s my responsibility to fix it,” he wrote.

More than 90 people have been charged in federal fraud investigations in Minnesota, which began during the Biden administration, and at least 60 have been convicted. In announcing charges against six more people accused of defrauding safety net programs, the prosecutor overseeing the investigation, said this month that the authorities had identified “staggering, industrial-scale fraud” in Minnesota’s safety-net programs.


...and the investigation started under the Biden admin, which means it wasn't just a republican administration that said "something smells fishy here"

I think children's issues are a big deal, and fraud shouldn't happen at all. But to trust Trumps and his people is a big joke.

In this instance, it sounds like the person tasked with spearheading the effort is Jim O'Neill.

While there's often accusations that "Trump doesn't have serious people" tossed around (and in many cases, those accusations have merit).

Seems like Jim O'Neill is a somewhat "serious" person. Under the Bush administration, he served in both the Department of Education and HHS, and was the US Delegate to the WHO's World Health Assembly.
 
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"The fraud has been quietly described in many news outlets over the last few years. However, Democrats suppressed public recognition of the mass fraud by their political allies until last week, when independent journalist Nick Shirley posted a series of man-on-the-street videos showing empty child care centers."
Stealing money that is supposed to help children is particularly despicable. Given the situation, requiring evidence that a payment is legitimate before handing over taxpayer money is a responsible step to take.
I clearly want to remind everyone that the first fraud allegation and subsequent conviction in 2022 the Feeding Our Future meal scheme, was invented and orchestrated by the evil master mind of a non- Somallian woman, Aimee Bock aka " the white woman". She was able to convince and manipulate some Somalian restaurant owners to falsifie documents for reimbursement. Lets not join this band wagon against many, many innocent people because one person decided to be evil.
I have no doubt more " white people " will be discovered as the ring leaders of any future uncovered schemes. It wouldn't be the first time that a vulnerable group of people are manipulated or coerced into such actions.
 
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So punish the children?
They have already been robbed, seeing that the money actually goes to help children is not punishment
 
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I clearly want to remind everyone that the first fraud allegation and subsequent conviction in 2022 the Feeding Our Future meal scheme, was invented and orchestrated by the evil master mind of a non- Somallian woman, Aimee Bock aka " the white woman". She was able to convince and manipulate some Somalian restaurant owners to falsifie documents for reimbursement. Lets not join this band wagon against many, many innocent people because one person decided to be evil.
I have no doubt more " white people " will be discovered as the ring leaders of any future uncovered schemes. It wouldn't be the first time that a vulnerable group of people are manipulated or coerced into such actions.
So your defense of the Somalis is that they are not smart enough to pull this off without white people in charge?
 
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So your defense of the Somalis is that they are not smart enough to pull this off without white people in charge?
Oh please! This is truly uncalled for. The mastermind is not Somali. Nice try, but you can't twist truth by making such a ridiculous statement.
 
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Oh please! This is truly uncalled for. The mastermind is not Somali. Nice try, but you can't twist truth by making such a ridiculous statement.
It's your post
 
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"I have no doubt more " white people " will be discovered as the ring leaders of any future uncovered schemes."
Which you interpret as "black people are too stupid to crime right".
 
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Which you interpret as "black people are too stupid to crime right".
No, it's her implication that white people had to be the masterminds behind the fraud.
I think all races are quite capable of criminal activity
 
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No, it's her implication that white people had to be the masterminds behind the fraud.
No, it's your inference that she was saying black people weren't smart enough.
I think all races are quite capable of criminal activity
Agree with that!
 
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No, it's your inference that she was saying black people weren't smart enough.

Agree with that!
She's the one implying that Somalis were not capable of pulling this off without white masterminds pulling the strings.
 
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I clearly want to remind everyone that the first fraud allegation and subsequent conviction in 2022 the Feeding Our Future meal scheme, was invented and orchestrated by the evil master mind of a non- Somallian woman, Aimee Bock aka " the white woman". She was able to convince and manipulate some Somalian restaurant owners to falsifie documents for reimbursement. Lets not join this band wagon against many, many innocent people because one person decided to be evil.
I have no doubt more " white people " will be discovered as the ring leaders of any future uncovered schemes. It wouldn't be the first time that a vulnerable group of people are manipulated or coerced into such actions.

Unfortunately this whole thing has been wound up in a full on race panic pushed to a head by a RW internet provocateur who went filming at day care centers with a gang of masked men and demanded to be let in so that he (a non-parent) could be shown where the children were at a daycare before their regular hours, etc. It is not clear if has anything to do with Bock's food aid fraud other than it is in the vicinity of Somali's
 
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