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Why do we do things not written in the Bible?
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I think you are just mad because He wasn’t born on the Jewish sabbath so that everyone then would have to celebrate it like you legalists do.
He has to be born to die in the cross. The incarnation is one of the most important and glorious events in the history of mankind.
Maybe this will help.
“And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.”
John 1:14 NKJV
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And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
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Our Lord cares about us remaining faithful, and repentant. Since God is eternal and therefore timeless, I earnestly believe that He will be pleased that we endeavor to pray, praise and give thanks however we do so, as long as it is done to the eternal glory of his name. Those who are trying to throw up legalistic stumbling blocks to cause the faithful to doubt the surety of their salvation through faithful lives, do so at the risk of their immortal souls. (that is a hint).
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The Romans (pagans) used a cross to crucify people on. Jesus did not die on a cross to perpetuate paganism. If you first demonize a person or a group it is quite easy to come up with some story to support your belief. Hitler loved dogs, this or that person or organization loves dogs, then one could incorrectly conclude they are following Hitler. Realize that Christians, from Adventists to Catholics, are seeking Jesus and seeking the truth in theology. Now they are all sinners and can go astray, but assuming evil MOTIVES is wrong. Hatred can be taught by those who hate others, Jesus tells us to love one another.
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Considering the actual date is unknown, and therefore deemed "adiaphora", continuing to argue about it is unbiblical; face it you have either lost a pointless argument in the face of pragmatic and reasonable Christians, or we don't actually care what you think, and are therefore content to love our Lord. BTW, we celebrate the Eucharist every Sunday and every Holy Day; from the book of Concord:
Article XXIV. Of the Mass
ConfessionConfutationApology [Defense]1 Falsely are our churches accused of abolishing the Mass; for the Mass is retained among
2 us, and celebrated with the highest reverence. Nearly all the usual ceremonies are also preserved, save that the parts sung in Latin are interspersed here and there with German hymns, which have been added
We have our own customs, and we practice these in great devotion. You do as you see fit, I don't care.
In all do respect you don't have to reply, but Paul says in 2 Timothy 4: 2 preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
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Paul says in 2 Timothy 2: 19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. A man asked Jesus this very question, "...What good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?", and Jesus replied, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19:16-19).
This was a direct answer to a direct question, which all of us will do well to take heed to. Anybody can claim to have faith, but actions speak louder than words. Faith and works go together and you can't have one without the other. "Here is the patience of the saints; here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus" (Revelation 14:12).
The commandments of God are not hard to keep (I John 5:3) and furthermore, they teach us love in the highest degree. If you love Jesus you will keep his commandments (St. John 14:15). You will not displease the Lord by: Worshipping other gods, having graven images, taking his name in vain, adhere to God's dietary laws in Lev.11ch, breaking his Sabbath day (which is Saturday not Sunday), or dishonoring your parents. On the other hand, if you love your neighbor as yourself you will not kill him, commit adultery with his spouse, steal from him, falsely accuse him, or covet anything of his. Stop committing fornication.
This is true love, and if obeyed how much better would our world be? This is why Jesus said that the two greatest commandments are loving the Lord with all your heart, soul, and mind; and loving your neighbor as yourself (Matthew 22:35-40). These two commandments are the foundation of the entire law. Many reject the law, but it is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good (Romans 7:12) even today.
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None of which precludes celebrating the Incarnation nine months from the Annunciation. If you don’t like that, since 1 Corinthians 11:2 and 2 Thessalonians 2:15 give authority to apostolic tradition, the only scriptural option left would be to join the Armenian Apostlic Church, which still celebrates the Nativity on the Feast of the Baptism of our Lord - January 6th, in accordance with the pre-4th century standard, but really, despite your protests to the contrary, both liturgical practices are equally scripturally valid, whereas not celebrating the Incarnation is not, according to St. Zecariah the Prophet
10 Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the Lord.
11 And many nations shall be joined to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto thee.
12 And the Lord shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again.
13 Be silent, O all flesh, before the Lord: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation.
and also St. Luke the Evangelist (chapters 1 and 2, the Magnificat and Song of Simeon, aka Nunc Dimitis).
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None of this precludes celebrating the Nativity on December 25. Also most worship on the seventh day occurs in Roman Catholic churches, since every RCC priest is required if health permits to celebrate the Mass and Liturgy of the Hours on that day, and many faithful attend. And we Eastern and Oriental Orthodox honor the Sabbath continually, especially on the Seventh Day, through constant remembrance that God reposed in a tomb on the seventh day, after remaking us in His image.
So no, your hyper-Sabbatarian attacks upon tradition are not scriptural, but contra-scriptural (see the aformentioned scripture references in my previous posts, also Colossians 2:16, which precludes judging another Christian on their Sabbath observance, which you are doing in this thread to an extent that exceeds that even of some SDA members who attach a kind of vocation to criticizing everyone else, especially Roman Catholics, who on the basis of historically false writings, they, like you, attribute various evils to centuries before the Roman church did anything worthy of criticism.
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