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There are consequences for false prophets as well.
Jeremiah 23:25-32, is sufficient to deter anyone from making prophesies. It also applies to those who say Bible Prophecy has no relevance to us today. 2 Peter 1:19
 
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God’s Plan for His Creation
That we come to know him and Jesus Christ, his Son. Romans 8:19.
We know, also, that it is God's work, and will, that we have eternal life. John 6:29,40. That's it. God gave his Son to reconcile all things to himself, 2 Corinthians 5:18, Colossians 1:20. That's what peace and reconciliation with God cost Jesus - his life.
Why would God not want everyone to know about him?
 
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The reality is that the Bible is the only reliable guide that we have, discount it and you are in the mire of guesswork and conjecture. The Bible gives us the right way to live and does have a lot of prophecy, some accurately fulfilled, most still future.

Nope. It's the other way around. MOST of the OT prophecies were fulfilled (in eschatological) tension in Jesus incarnation, death, and resurrection. The reign of God's kingdom started then (in eschatological tension). The future kingdom of God is currently being revealed through our declaration of the gospel and sacrificial love of neighbour.


The prophet Daniel 12:9-10, says that some will be kept secret and sealed till the end time,
Ah - so you're THE ONE!?
That's blasphemy!

You're so fixated on reading a CME over everything that you've undermined the gospel itself!

No mere human can unveil the scroll of the Last Days.
Why? Because it took Jesus death and resurrection to bring us into the Last Days!
The Last Days started with the gospel 2000 years ago! See Acts 2, Hebrews 1.

In case you missed it - it's just before your precious "CME" chapter of Revelation 6!See Revelation 5.

But no-one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it. 4I wept and wept because no-one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside. 5Then one of the elders said to me, ‘Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.’​

Oh but now you're the special one?
Right.

Anyway, then moving right along - John reminds us that Jesus salvation of us means he reigns from heaven through his kingdom on earth (the church) as he protects those in heaven (the martyred) and fulfils his plans in history (his mysterious judgements on the earth which cannot be predicted). They are released as the Lord sees fit, when he sees fit. We are seated with Christ in the heavens (Ephesians) but in this "now, but not yet fully" manner theologians call "eschatological tension."

It is Jesus who judges the world whenever there is war, or natural disasters and nature in chaos, or tyrants, or wealth and material success that seduces God's people.

but a few who seek the truth and study the Word will understand.

Yeah - you're one of the special 'few' alright.
2012, United Muslim Jihad, AOD this January.

Except it's not even about that.
The great mystery held secret for the ages was that Jesus would open the kingdom of God to the gentiles and nations. (See Paul's writings.) The great secret of the scroll is not a timetable, but a sacrificial death on our behalf that then enables these Last Days to start - and Jesus rule to include his judging of the world through disasters, war, tyrants, and chaos.

Also - where do you get the arrogance to claim Daniel applies to you when you're SO BAD at 'predicting' the timetable?
Your guesses so far have been so bad that if I were you, I'd be doing the dishes decades from now, and wince with embarrassment at the stuff I had blurted. The harsh sunlight of time evaporated away all your fevered imaginings like the morning mist.

Also, why should I listen to you? There are 666 other futurists pushing their wares here. It's a whole marketplace of timetables. Surely I should pick one that's maybe got a tiny bit of a possibility of potentially guessing something about the future?

You don't. The bible's called it.
One strike and a false prophet is out.

Oh - but you're up to strike 4 and really truly want ANOTHER turn?
Have you recharged your "ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY" after last time yet? :doh:

I'm so glad all you futurists agree on what's happening. It's such a good witness to the universal truth of Jesus claims! :doh:


Isaiah prophesied about 75 generations ago; Isaiah 24:1 Be warned, the Lord is about to lay waste to the earth, to devastate it and scatter its inhabitants.
Yep - it's a bit of a gospel vision (in Jewish terms) of the gospel promise we hope in today.
But your mistake is not seeing the flow of the chapters, and how they relate to each other.
13 to 27 are local nations.
24-27 are like those 'compare and contrast' essays we had to do in high school.
It's Isaiah lifting up to ETERNAL matters for a moment, from all the local judgement.
No decent Amil theologian I read has said ALL OT prophecies are already fulfilled in the past.
There ARE eternal matters discussed by the prophets.
But it takes careful reading and discernment.

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By now, perhaps 1 billion people will have read this prophesy and it never happened to them. Why should we think it could happen to this generation?
Because the Lord died in my place and rose again, and told me to stay ready.
But that's complicated as well.
Martin Luther was asked what would he do if he knew the world would end tomorrow?
He answered, "Plant an apple tree."
As creatures, we have responsibilities to each other and God's world.
We are not to despise this creation of his as we look forward to the new creation.

There are several possibilities that could bring about a worldwide disaster: a nuke war, a comet strike, earthquakes, volcanoes, a Coronal Mass Ejection, etc. Everyone can see that there will soon have to be some kind of severe shakeup to sort out the world’s problems.
Climate change.
Overpopulation.
Super-viruses manufactured in a lab for war.
Genetically selective super-viruses to take out a particular ethnic group.
Yellowstone.
A future predictive intelligence - though blind and unconscious and only mimicking sentience - gets out of the lab and spreads across the internet, shutting it down and destroying the modern world.
Cyberwarfare crippling the modern world - destroying manifests and production - and causing a mass dieoff as the cities starve. (Read John Birmingham's Zero Day Code series - just for fun. Take a break from this End Times stuff - it's not doing anyone any good!)
etc.

ALL are covered by John's symbolic sermon on suffering in Revelation.
ALL are covered by Paul's epistles as he describes human nature, and what the church could be in for.
In general terms.
Not in a timetable!

You have not explained why Isaiah talks about HIS generation so much, Israel's enemies of that time specifically being judged, and a return to the land under Cyrus.

But I guess - after 5 years of this I should not expect answers from you?

You just copy and paste your own assertions yet again, and never deal with the counterfactual to your arguments that - if it were me - would bother me - "like a splinter in my mind." (Morpheus from The Matrix.)

But hey - go at it anyway!
 
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Jeremiah 23:25-32, is sufficient to deter anyone from making prophesies.
You appear to be re-writing history - and claiming that you only 'interpret' God's word!
That you are not a self-proclaimed prophet?

But...

"I am just a humble servant of the Most High God. He gave me a task: to promote what His prophets wrote so long ago, because what they wrote then, is about to happen soon. I know this, because in 2010, when I was in the Holy Land; I received a vision from the Lord and inspiration to do this."​

I did not do this to you. You did this to yourself! Indeed, back then I warned you about Jerusalem Syndrome - which can give religious people a sort of sensory overdose and wig them out a bit. I tried to show you how Jesus said we cannot know the day or hour. But the more I brought scripture to you, the harsher you got in your manner to myself and others.

You had PERFECT CONFIDENCE! And my theological mates were all SWINE!

“I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day on which the Lord will arise and send fire to destroy the attackers of Israel and change the world, ready for the lead up to His glorious Return. I doesn't take great Biblical qualifications to know what God has planned, in fact such learning is a hindrance to finding the truth. And don't ask me when, as you would do what Jesus said will happen in: Matthew 7:6“​

You worked out when the Lord would return - 2029.5 exactly!
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

If we subtract 3.5 years for a literalistic (+) AOD - that's next month.

+ The experts in Apocalyptic Symbolism remind us that all these numbers and symbols and colours and time periods have SYMBOLIC, not literal, meanings. Reading them literally is to miss the point. 7 years is God's perfect time, 3.5 years is time cut short. So it was in Daniel, so it is in Revelation.




It also applies to those who say Bible Prophecy has no relevance to us today. 2 Peter 1:19
Which I do not do!
I believe in God's gospel promises for the future!

I also do not DECEIVE myself about how many prophecies were fulfilled in the past.
 
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I also do not DECEIVE myself about how many prophecies were fulfilled in the past.
The deceit is when people say a prophecy has been fulfilled, when there is no historical record of such a thing.
Saying it happened in 'eschatological tension', is pretentious nonsense.

We cannot just use the Bible for our Salvation and then play fast and loose with what it says about our future. We should know; Amos 3:7 and we should not be in the dark, 1 Thess 5:4

As for my claim to have received inspiration from the Lord; I am an academic and business failure, with no real qualifications.
In worldly and Biblical standards - I am just a baby, a simpleton. Just a minute! Where have I heard that?
My contention is; someone has to present the truths of the Prophetic Word. That just a few will believe it, is also Prophesied.

May I suggest that people re-read the OP of this thread. What we Christians look forward to, is truly amazing!
 
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The deceit is when people say a prophecy has been fulfilled, when there is no historical record of such a thing.
Saying it happened in 'eschatological tension', is pretentious nonsense.
When you cannot actually address issues within your own referenced chapters like Isaiah 13 that SHOW he was talking about the Persians taking out the Babylonians, your accusations above wash off me like water off a duck's back.

We cannot just use the Bible for our Salvation and then play fast and loose with what it says about our future. We should know; Amos 3:7 and we should not be in the dark, 1 Thess 5:4
Ah - but 1 Thess is about not LIVING in the dark.
It's about BEING in the light, not KNOWING something about some random end-times-table.

It's about a condition, not information.

It's about BEING THE BUS DRIVER'S SON - and KNOWING he will come and get you when it's time to leave.

That's totally different to some random dude waving a tattered and hole-ridden timetable in your face - and telling you to be prepared to run to some random bus stop that doesn't exist yet because big changes are coming to the whole bus system!

I mean - I know the bus driver. I'm his son. I don't care about that tatty thing you keep waving around. It's going to get in someone's eyes! Put it away!

(But you've really truly WOOLY got it right this time? Promise? Cross your heart and hope to die!? Fifth time lucky?)


As for my claim to have received inspiration from the Lord; I am an academic and business failure, with no real qualifications.
I noticed.

In worldly and Biblical standards - I am just a baby, a simpleton.
Hey - go easy on yourself there pal.
I'm sort of in the same boat.

Except I respect those who actually seem to have a ring of consistent truth about them - instead of the ring of consistent failure and consistent inconsistency in how they treat the bible!

(Like trying to read Isaiah 13 as about the future, trying to insist Revelation is literal - oh except for Jesus having 7 eyes and 7 horns - you know - stuff like that.)

Just a minute! Where have I heard that?
My contention is; someone has to present the truths of the Prophetic Word. That just a few will believe it, is also Prophesied.
This is just plain AWFUL and sanctimonious nonsense!

The scriptural warnings you try to misuse here are NOT about taking some end times table seriously? They were written 2000 years ago to a completely different crowd. How irrelevant would they be if they were about something going on now?

Instead, these warnings are about the person of Jesus himself and taking HIM seriously!
Who he is, trusting in him alone, and getting that right!

It's just Cassandra-Syndrome NONSENSE to try and claim the 'swine' warnings as really truuly wooooly being about your end-times-tables.

That's just insulting and a bit revolting!
:sick::sick::sick:


The bible is saying do not ignore Jesus the Messiah - not do not ignore the navel-gazing imaginations of a NZ brother who thought he deserved 5 chances to pretend he had a clue about... .something or other! (Who knows? It keeps changing. Even after having ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY!)

May I suggest that people stick with the BIBLE - and set their eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith - seated above at the right hand of the Father? That's what the New Testament tells people to do.

Not focus on Keras, the author of goofy end-times-table, who 'perfects' them as he goes along! :doh:

Maybe if you were more excited about the gospel I would be less alarmed about whatever it is you're going on about?
But when I hear you confusing what TESTAMENT we are in now - and trying to say that there is a new COVENANT coming - it just gives me the heebejeebees. Sounds like you're about to start one of those dime-a-dozen end-times cults.
 
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That's just insulting and a bit revolting!
You would know, as the insulter par excellence!
Do you not realize that your vitriolic and put down posts, bereft of any proper rebuttal, just demonstrate your desperate desire to avoid any possibility that you personally, will have to endure the difficult end times events.
The AMll and preterest beliefs are pure avoidance and are motivated by fear of the future.

That the swine trample my Bible Prophecy articles, indicates to me I'm on the right track.
I noticed.
But I am a voracious reader and have self-educated. Not many people will have read as much history as I have.
That I have no PHD or even a high school diploma, means I am untainted by the theories, doctrines and plain lies of academia.
 
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That the swine trample my Bible Prophecy articles, indicates to me I'm on the right track.
No it doesn't.
It indicates your arrogance and complete disregard for others - even your own brothers and sisters.
 
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That I have no PHD or even a high school diploma, means I am untainted by the theories, doctrines and plain lies of academia.
How do you know they're lies if you haven't read, or tried to understand, them?
 
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When you cannot actually address issues within your own referenced chapters like Isaiah 13 that SHOW he was talking about the Persians taking out the Babylonians,
Raise a standard– call to assemble in Israel:

Isaiah 13:1-8 Babylon- an oracle. A Prophecy against foreign nations:
Raise a flag, sound the call to battle. I have commanded My holy ones to carry out My judgement, all My troops, eager for the victory. Listen to the noise of their gathering, they come, prepared with the weapons of the Lord’s wrath. Wail, for the Day of the Lord is near, devastation from the Almighty. Because of this, all courage will melt away and terror and fear will grip everyone.
Joel 2:1-11, Isaiah 24:1

Isaiah 13:9-16 The Day of the Lord is coming, that cruel Day of wrath and fierce anger, to reduce the earth to desolation and to destroy all the wicked there. The sun, moon and stars will be darkened when God punishes the world for its sins. The heavens will tremble and the earth will be moved out of her place. .
Humans will be scarcer that gold, at the wrath of God and the Lamb, on that Day of their blazing anger. Like sheep with no shepherd, people will rush back to their native lands, those who are caught will be killed.
Isaiah 66:15-16

Isaiah 13:17-22 [Fulfilled prophecy - Ancient Babylon was destroyed by the Medes, it has never been rebuilt as an inhabited city. Isaiah chapter 47]
Isaiah 29:20-23 The arrogant and ruthless will be no more, therefore the Lord says: This is no time for Jacob [Israel] to be shamed, for his descendants will regard Israel’s God with awe and will praise Him for their deliverance. Habakkuk 3:12-14

Isaiah 11:11-16 On that Day, the Lord will exert His power a second time, to recover the remnant of His people from all parts of the world, He will raise a standard for the nations. The scattered people of Judah and Ephraim will assemble and the ancient hostility between them, will cease. They will take over the area of the Holy Land. The Lord will make a way for them to travel into the Land, as He did for the ancient Israelites. Psalms 107, Isaiah 49:8-13, Revelation 18:4
The Lord’s people, every faithful Christian, are gathered and settled into the Land

Isaiah 12:1-6 On the Day of our deliverance, we will say: We praise You, Lord. You were angry with us, now Your anger has abated and you comfort us. God is our deliverer, our refuge and defense. On that day, we will say with joy: Give thanks to God, make known what He has done among the peoples. Cry out, you dwellers in Zion, for the Holy one of Israel is among you in His majesty. Not His physical return, as yet. Psalms 100:1-5

The glory of God will reside in the 3rd Temple, His people will rejoice and praise Him. Eze. 43:4
Reference REB,NIV. Some verses abridged.

Isaiah 13:1-16 is about the forthcoming Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath. This is the next prophesied event, which will clear the entire Middle East area, enabling Greater Israel to be settled by the Lord’s people, Jew and Gentile; every born again Christian. Revelation 5:9-10

Verse 10 says how it will be dark on that Day – this will be caused by the smoke and ash clouds resulting from a huge Coronal Mass Ejection from the sun. Isaiah 30:26-28, Jeremiah 30:23-24, Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16, Ezekiel 20:46-48, Revelation 6:12-17.

THEN, His faithful people, have the wonderful promises of redemption and restoration. They will live in peace and security in all that area promised to Abraham. That all this will take place before Jesus returns, is evident by the way His people gather- not by the angels, as in Matthew 24:31 – but by travelling along ‘a highway’, by every conveyance. Isaiah 66:20. & 35:8-10
Also how the Lord gives His faithful peoples a sign and motivates them to migrate to the Holy Land, the new nation of Beulah: Isaiah 62:1-5

Keraz; May 2011
 
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No it doesn't.
It indicates your arrogance and complete disregard for others - even your own brothers and sisters.
The reason I post on the Forums,, is to present the Bible truths. I regard my fellow Christians highly enough to put up with rejection and abuse.
I have many other nicer activities I can do.
How do you know they're lies if you haven't read, or tried to understand, them?
But I have read much, it is the false teachings of Bible Colleges and Seminaries that I reject. They teach theories which are not Biblical. The 'rapture to heaven' is the worst one.
 
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You would know, as the insulter par excellence!
Well - I learned from the guy that says his vision from 2010 meant he didn't have to do any horrible hermeneutics or read theologians.
They were all swine.

So how did this guy know? He just knew. God told him! Ran through the bible and highlighted the verses for him!

Gave him "Absolute certainty".

And history came and went and no 2012, no United Muslim Jihad, no temple ready for the AOD next month...


Do you not realize that your vitriolic and put down posts, bereft of any proper rebuttal, just demonstrate your desperate desire to avoid any possibility that you personally, will have to endure the difficult end times events.
The AMll and preterest beliefs are pure avoidance and are motivated by fear of the future.
Ah, lovely. How quaint!

Why I detect a Bulverism, no less!
This term was coined by CSLewis to summarise the great logical error of our day.
People like to psychoanalyse WHY you are wrong - rather than prove THAT you are wrong!

But hey, the way you described your 'vision' of 2010 sounds an awful lot like Jerusalem Syndrome - which I have shared.
So I guess you could turn around and accuse me of Bulverising you!

But here's the thing.

I'm not the one rabidly on here every day, preaching the 'word' of the CME - desperately pleading for year after year about what I feel in my bones is coming! And then failing, and failing, and failing... as the dates tumble by and all my timetables fade into oblivion and the boring past of 10,000 OTHER failed futurist fiasco's!

Indeed - these forums are quite distressing to me. The lack of care for scripture. The lack of care for consequences for all these false prophets, false preaching, false ideas, almost false gospels!

Oh - and I have a healthy regard for how distressing our future can be. I accept climate science!
You don't!

So which of us is running into fantasies to escape their real world responsibilities?

Which of us said "Gold told me..." and then it didn't happen?

Bulverise away sunshine.

Every finger you point at me has 4 pointing right back at you!
(They're called 2012, United Muslim Jihad, that December appointment, and the AOD in January!)
 
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I accept climate science!
I accept what the Bible Prophets say about our future.

Of course we humans have changed our climate,- but only in localised areas. My guess is about 10%, or not more that 20% of global land area.
Places like Europe, India and Japan have built over huge areas and caused there to be higher temperatures and awful pollution.
This is caused, purely and simply by the unsustainable rocketing rise in human population.

Note: Isaiah 13:12 Humans will become scarce...... shows that the Lord will fix this problem on the Day of His fiery wrath.
I also believe that after the terrible Day, the earths atmosphere will change to about 35% Oxygen and more Carbon Dioxide, leading to faster plant growth and to longer life for humans.
 
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I accept what the Bible Prophets say about our future.

Of course we humans have changed our climate,- but only in localised areas. My guess is about 10%, or not more that 20% of global land area.
Places like Europe, India and Japan have built over huge areas and caused there to be higher temperatures and awful pollution.
This is caused, purely and simply by the unsustainable rocketing rise in human population.

Note: Isaiah 13:12 Humans will become scarce...... shows that the Lord will fix this problem on the Day of His fiery wrath.
I also believe that after the terrible Day, the earths atmosphere will change to about 35% Oxygen and more Carbon Dioxide, leading to faster plant growth and to longer life for humans.

You can't help yourself can you?

Read again.

This is what ISAIAH said the LAND* would go through as the Persians attacked the Babylonians!

(Check the word! It can be used for whole earth, as in the middle eternal chapters of Isaiah, or more current geopolitical issues about the Babylonians and Persians - as in this very chapter! Oh - yeah - Isaiah REALLY meant the whole earth was going to be burnt to a crisp by the sun when the Persians marched to war. No really! He wasn't at ALL interested in showing a battle in the heavens as well - as their Babylonian 'gods' were topped by a disturbance amongst the stars! No geopolitical references in Isaiah's symbolism - not at all! :oldthumbsup: In the same tone of ignorance of symbolism - 777 means someone is really lucky and good at gambling, and "Salem" means a fractious and argumentative person or place given to battles. No really!)
 
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This is what ISAIAH said the LAND* would go through as the Persians attacked the Babylonians!
Isaiah 13 is a Chapter with many Prophesies.
Isaiah 13:16-22 does refer to ancient Babylon, that all happened and Babylon remains uninhabited.

But Isaiah 13:2-15 remains unfulfilled. The terrible Day of the Lords wrath which will make the earth waste, [verse 5b - the whole land, KJV, or - lay the whole earth waste. REBible. Confirmed by Zephaniah 3:8 and Luke 21:35.

I am not ignorant of symbolism, when it is used with obvious allegories and plain metaphors. But when the Prophets tell of something which is possible to be literally fulfilled, then a very good reason to call it 'symbolic', is required.
You reason seems to be just that you don't like it and it conflicts with your beliefs.
 
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But I have read much, it is the false teachings of Bible Colleges and Seminaries that I reject. They teach theories which are not Biblical. The 'rapture to heaven' is the worst one.
Teaching that some OT prophecy has not been fulfilled and you are the one who can apply it to our day and declare that it will be fulfilled when certain events take place, is not Biblical.
Like taking Zechariah 5 out of context. Like quoting random verses, also out of context, and interpreting them in a certain way.

You may not claim to be a prophet but you do seem to have assumed some kind of spiritual authority; the gist of your teaching being, "this is what these Scriptures mean, and how they will be fulfilled. Almost no one agrees with me, but that's fine because they're all wrong; no one agreed with the OT prophets either."

But OT prophets didn't say things like; "this will happen in 2012 ....... oh, my mistake, I didn't understand the Lord's timings." "This COULD happen on this date, which is next week ...... oh, it looks like we've got away with it again".
 
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Teaching that some OT prophecy has not been fulfilled and you are the one who can apply it to our day and declare that it will be fulfilled when certain events take place, is not Biblical.
Like taking Zechariah 5 out of context. Like quoting random verses, also out of context, and interpreting them in a certain way.

You may not claim to be a prophet but you do seem to have assumed some kind of spiritual authority; the gist of your teaching being, "this is what these Scriptures mean, and how they will be fulfilled. Almost no one agrees with me, but that's fine because they're all wrong; no one agreed with the OT prophets either."

But OT prophets didn't say things like; "this will happen in 2012 ....... oh, my mistake, I didn't understand the Lord's timings." "This COULD happen on this date, which is next week ...... oh, it looks like we've got away with it again".
Rather than brother bashing, lets hear your interpretation of the Prophesies I have posted which say our destiny is to live in all of the Holy Land.

The 'Spiritual Authority' I use, is that of the actual Prophetic Word. I am just the Prophets messenger. You reject their message.
To deny the Message of Zechariah 5, is foolishness, as we are in the time for its fulfilment.
 
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Rather than brother bashing, lets hear your interpretation of the Prophesies
Firstly, mentioning times that you have declared that something will happen and then it doesn't, is not "brother bashing." It's simply pointing out that you, who say you have a message from God, have been wrong. As God is not wrong about things and is capable of communicating clearly with people, this naturally gives cause for concern/disbelief.

I seem to remember I did post something about Zechariah 5, where I was trying to look at the chapter in context. You rejected it.
I also seem to remember saying that I felt you did not want so much an interpretation, as an application.
You reject their message.
No, I reject your interpretation and your putting together of random Scriptures to try to make your point.
To deny the Message of Zechariah 5, is foolishness, as we are in the time for its fulfilment.
I deny what you tell me that it means - why do you not get that?
I have said, several times, that the scroll and the basket mentioned in Zec 5 are different things. There are different words used for each and they have different purposes - i.e the scroll went into a house and destroyed it; the basket had to be carried into a house which was especially built for it. You have never, as far as I know, answered that.

Your reply was something like, "well if you ask people what a flying, lead covered object that destroyed things could be, many will say a nuclear bomb."
It doesn't matter what "most people think" or even what you decided the scroll looked like - what matters is the text.
In the light of your, "this is talking about nuclear bombs" interpretation you have also decided that a certain country is going to use them, and soon. How soon, "soon" is, is open to interpretation. If nothing happens for several years, you will no doubt say again that you were "confused" about the Lord's timings.

I have too much respect for OT prophesies, and prophets, to start pulling them apart, out of context, and reinterpreting them in the light of today's society and way the world is going. As I said, how do you know that people weren't using these same prophesies to predict WWII, Vietnam, the Falklands war and so on?
 
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Isaiah 13 is a Chapter with many Prophesies.
Isaiah 13:16-22 does refer to ancient Babylon, that all happened and Babylon remains uninhabited.

No it's the whole chapter!
But Isaiah 13:2-15 remains unfulfilled.
That's called cherry picking! You just ripped it out of context and said it's about something else when Isaiah gives us ZERO reason to do so!

Give us one solid reason you think Isaiah went from talking about the collapse of Judah to the coming superpower of Babylon, and then even more astonishingly - the judgement of this new superpower itself by God! - to suddenly talking about the far, far future.


The terrible Day of the Lords wrath

No. In almost every other instance these dark sun and moon and heavens shaking verses are used they are also dressed up in war.

Then there's Gospel itself - and how as Jesus died - the sun and moon went dark - the temple curtain was torn from top to bottom - and the Acts 2 imagery also uses this language to describe the sacrifice of Jesus on our behalf.

So we have to be very careful how we do our hermeneutics when reading this symbolism.

which will make the earth waste,

Blah blah blah.

Has it ever occurred to you that you seem to be looking forward to this sci-fi story of yours more than the actual justice God will bring on the great and terrible day of the Lord's judgement as he brings in eternity and assigns people to paradise or eternal torment?

That great and terrible day when the Lord himself will see us, and we will see ourselves as we really are?

That great and terrible day where people's eternities will be sorted?

When death itself will be conquered?

When God's people will live forever rejoicing in the reality that is the bliss of being in the presence of God unashamed?

A great and terrible day when the universe itself will be upgraded and the heavens rolled up and then rolled out again in a new heaven and new earth?

Next to that your CME - as terrible as it is as an idea - is a natural disaster. That's all it is.

Now there are plenty of terrible natural disasters described in revelation to cover the period we are in, even climate change.

It's symbolic language.
So a third killed does not numerically mean a third, it means more survived than died but it was a significant judgement of God.

But the point remains.

The very language you use with all the capitals and all the dressing up and all the fancy, shows that you seem to be more infatuated with this one CME than you are excited about the gospel itself which shows that the Lord himself is returning in revelation chapter 6.

You've put years into this fantasy of yours. But Rev 6 is about people hiding from the face of God they are so ashamed and afraid.

Rereading that as some kind of solar event does violence to the chapter.

Also, rather than just trying to promote your material all the time, have you ever sat back and looked at this forum?

Have you ever just sat back and tried to mull over and appreciate how hardly any futurist here can agree with anything any other futurist here EVER says EVER?

Especially those that have detected their own pattern in the bible - and start to fill up a crazy wall in some part of their living room, notes app, or just their mind?

That have drawn up timetable number 666?

Have you ever stopped to look at that?

Have you ever stopped to honestly sit back and look at how you spend your time, and how utterly pedantic and silly all this is?

Make no mistake.

In my mind you are a false prophet because you claim you are led by the holy spirit to declare all this, and so far you're four false prophecies and counting.
 
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In my mind you are a false prophet because you claim you are led by the holy spirit to declare all this, and so far you're four false prophecies and counting.
What I do is post the unfulfilled Prophesies. They have not failed to happen, as the window for their fulfilment remains open.

I believe God wants us to know about His plans for our future and my bringing them up for scrutiny seems to excite much opposition.
Why this is, I can only surmise, but my hope is that people will seriously reconsider their beliefs and ideas which do not fit with the Prophetic Word.
For example; the idea that the next event will be the Return of Jesus and the Judgment. This entails a total rejection of most of Revelation and of Prophesies like Isaiah 13:2-15
Have you ever stopped to honestly sit back and look at how you spend your time, and how utterly pedantic and silly all this is?
Why don't you just leave it, if you reject the Prophesies?

I started writing out the Prophesies in 2010, while living in Jordan. My wife was a teacher at the Whitman Academy in Amman.
I have not changed my stance on any of it and remain ready for the Lord to arise and take action against His enemies.
This is my ethos and motivation:
One who devotes himself to study Wisdom:
Ecclesiasticus 39:1-11 How different it is with one who devotes himself to reflecting on the Law of the Most High, who explores all the wisdom of the past and occupies himself with the study of prophecies!
He preserves the sayings of the famous and penetrates the subtleties of parables.
The great avail themselves of his services and he appears in the presence of rulers.
He travels in foreign countries, learning at first hand human good and human evil.
He makes a point of rising early to seek the Lord, his Maker; he prays to the Most High, asking pardon for his sins.

If it is the will of the mighty Lord, he will be filled with the spirit of intelligence; then he will pour forth wise sayings of his own and give thanks to the Lord in prayer.
He is directed in his counsel and knowledge by the Lord, whose secrets are his constant study. In his teaching, he will reveal his learning, and his pride will be in the Law of the Lord’s covenant.
Many will praise his intelligence, and his works will never be forgotten. The memory of him will live forever and ever. The nations will tell of his wisdom and the assembled people will sing his praise. If he lives long, he will leave a name in a thousand; when he goes to his long rest, his reputation is secure. Reference: REB Apocrypha.

Job 28:20-28 Where, then does wisdom come from? God alone knows the way to wisdom. The fear of the Lord is wisdom and to turn from evil, that is understanding.
Daniel 2:21 God gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have discernment.
James 1:5-6 If any of you lack wisdom, you should ask God and it will be given to you. But, whoever asks, must ask in faith, with no doubts in their mind.
Proverbs 3:13 Blessed is the person who finds wisdom, it is more profitable than gold.
Psalm 40:8-10 God, it is my desire to do Your will. Your Law is in my heart. In the Great assembly, I have proclaimed what is right and not concealed Your unfailing truth.
Isaiah 32:3-4 Then those who see, will see clearly and those who hear will listen with care. The impious mind will understand and the stammerer will speak plainly.
James 3:1 ..you may be sure that we who teach, will ourselves face a stricter judgement.
Romans 12:16 Do not be proud, but be ready to mix with humble people. Do not keep thinking how wise you are.

“At about the time of the end, a body of men will be raised up, who will turn their attention to the prophesies and insist upon their literal interpretation, in the midst of much clamour and oppression.” Quote from Sir Isaac Newton.

2 Corinthians 2:11 For Satan must not be allowed to get the better of us, we know his wiles all too well.
 
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