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Salvation in a moment versus moment-by-moment motives

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I have struggled with the gospel for over fifty years. It is as if I am just recently realizing that the Christian life is impossible without the Holy Spirit.

On the one hand, one can be saved in a moment. OTOH, one must take up one’s cross daily and those who persevere to the end will be saved.

Moment-by-moment motives matter. If one lives for Christ moment-by-moment, the indication is that one is saved. If one lives for self moment-by-moment, indications are that one is NOT saved.

I figure that one has to trust Christ and the Holy Spirit moment-by-moment to help one live for Christ instead of for self. If one mostly lets up from this quest, then apparently one is not saved. On the one hand, one can be saved in a moment. OTOH, one must relinquish self and trust God moment-by-moment from then on.

This salvation-in-a-moment versus moment-by-moment motives thing is a supernatural paradox. There are lots of paradoxes that have to do with the supernatural realm, that have to do with the reality of God.

I have figured that if I can only have a moment of real salvation, then I am set. Then I am Christ’s no matter what. There might be a struggle between the flesh and the Spirit from then on, till I die, but I am going to heaven no matter what. Since my mother died in 2011, I have striven to experience this moment of real salvation.

Just this morning, I was thinking about how one must live for Christ, moment-by-moment, instead of for self, moment-by-moment. And how one must keep looking up at Christ and the Holy Spirit to accomplish that. Realizing that, there were moments this morning wherein I asked Christ and the Spirit to help me live for Christ, instead of for self, moment-by-moment. But then I thought about having to keep this quest up, moment-by-moment, on an on-going basis. I thought, I am not going to be “able” to keep that up. Then I figured that, by default, I just live for self, moment-by-moment. So, I tend to figure, with my wavering faith, that I am not saved.

What must I do to be saved?
 

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What must I do to be saved?
Well .....first ....stop doubting. I am not sure exactly what you are struggling with in terms of the Gospel message but, what I do know is if someone's understanding is on shaky ground, doubts will certainly creep up causing one to struggle in their walk with Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Sometimes we need to be reminded how Jesus Christ of Nazareth set us up to succeed before He ascended. He gave us His " Helper" aka His Holy Spirit. His Holy Spirit dwells in the believer as He promised when He said :

'If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.'"

This is His Holy Spirit. This is not an in one day and out the next day promise. That being said, we constantly do " quench " His Holy Spirit in many ways. This may be what you are experiencing. Paul described it here:

1 Thessalonians 5:16–22
"Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you. Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophecies. Test all things; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil."

In conclusion, as I stated in the first line of my post...stop doubting. Understand that His Holy Spirit is Him, God in the flesh as One always dwelling in the believer. Start with a clean slate with no doubt. You will soon find this burden of uncertainty lifted when you trust in Him fully.
Be blessed.
 
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I have struggled with the gospel for over fifty years. It is as if I am just recently realizing that the Christian life is impossible without the Holy Spirit.

On the one hand, one can be saved in a moment. OTOH, one must take up one’s cross daily and those who persevere to the end will be saved.

Moment-by-moment motives matter. If one lives for Christ moment-by-moment, the indication is that one is saved. If one lives for self moment-by-moment, indications are that one is NOT saved.

I figure that one has to trust Christ and the Holy Spirit moment-by-moment to help one live for Christ instead of for self. If one mostly lets up from this quest, then apparently one is not saved. On the one hand, one can be saved in a moment. OTOH, one must relinquish self and trust God moment-by-moment from then on.

This salvation-in-a-moment versus moment-by-moment motives thing is a supernatural paradox. There are lots of paradoxes that have to do with the supernatural realm, that have to do with the reality of God.

I have figured that if I can only have a moment of real salvation, then I am set. Then I am Christ’s no matter what. There might be a struggle between the flesh and the Spirit from then on, till I die, but I am going to heaven no matter what. Since my mother died in 2011, I have striven to experience this moment of real salvation.

Just this morning, I was thinking about how one must live for Christ, moment-by-moment, instead of for self, moment-by-moment. And how one must keep looking up at Christ and the Holy Spirit to accomplish that. Realizing that, there were moments this morning wherein I asked Christ and the Spirit to help me live for Christ, instead of for self, moment-by-moment. But then I thought about having to keep this quest up, moment-by-moment, on an on-going basis. I thought, I am not going to be “able” to keep that up. Then I figured that, by default, I just live for self, moment-by-moment. So, I tend to figure, with my wavering faith, that I am not saved.

What must I do to be saved?
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Ministers of Satan — 2 Cor 11:14-15 – Grace Evangelical Society

False teachers emphasize good works.
Let me repeat that.
False teachers emphasize good works.
Listen to Paul:

No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds (2 Cor 11:14-15).

Satan’s ministers disguise themselves as “servants of righteousness.”

Christendom is awash in false gospels. The primary characteristic of a false gospel is that it requires you to do good works to be eternally saved. It rejects the sufficiency of Christ’s finished work. It rejects His free gift. It rejects His mercy. It rejects the one condition of salvation, which is to believe in Jesus.
 
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Thank you, Maria Billingsly and d Taylor! d Taylor, you said the one condition of salvation is to believe in Jesus. Isn't the one condition of salvation to SURRENDER to Jesus?
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How many times does God need to say it in The Bible for you to believe it.

John 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
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John 3:14,15 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
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John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
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John 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
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John 3:18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is
condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only
begotten Son of God.
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John 3:36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
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John 5:24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
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John 6: 27,28,29 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”
Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
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John 6:47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believe in Me has everlasting life.
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John 11:25,26,27
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”
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John 20:31
but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.
 
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Thank you, Maria Billingsly and d Taylor! d Taylor, you said the one condition of salvation is to believe in Jesus. Isn't the one condition of salvation to SURRENDER to Jesus?
Actually Love, the Agape type, comes first.
 
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