Experiencing heaven on earth?

JohnClay · Dec 11, 2025

I have heard some Christians and videos/books talk about Christians being able to experience heaven on earth.
I currently believe in the following:

Life is a never-ending stream of problems that must be confronted, surmounted, and/or solved. If at any point, Life runs out of problems to give us, then as players, we will unconsciously invent problems for ourselves.

There are also related words like "abundance" and "manifesting". I was wondering if Christians believe heaven on earth can be consistently experienced and if that is Biblical. I think it's related to prosperity gospel but maybe involves even stronger blessings.

I have experienced feelings of heaven on earth myself but they turned out to be manic episodes and I've been hospitalized. At the same time I had missed out on a lot of sleep and if that happens I start taking sleeping tablets. In those cases when my life seemed perfect I ended up unconsciously inventing problems for myself (resulting in hospitalization, etc)

Richard T · Dec 11, 2025

There is no escaping some afflictions. "The afflictions of the righteous are many, but the Lord delivers us from them all." Learning "obedience from the things we suffer." This suggests we encounter troubles but as we trust God, He pulls us toward himself. One thing that helps is to avoid taking the bait or trap that Satan tries to put on us at times. We have to watch our confession and not believe in the lies of the devil. Such lies are generally based on our own fears, condemnation, or other negative thinking. We can push much aside using God's word!

d taylor · Dec 12, 2025

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No person knows what heaven is like, so how do they know that they are experiencing heaven on earth.

NBB · Dec 12, 2025

The bible talks about 'heavenly gift', christians can experience things from heaven/God.

Also says we will have affliction.

SavedByGrace3 · Dec 12, 2025

I wonder how many have the faith, indeed, the courage, to simply obey Jesus and pray what he told us to pray?

Matthew 6:10 KJV
10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

JohnClay · Dec 13, 2025

d taylor said:
No person knows what heaven is like, so how do they know that they are experiencing heaven on earth.

I think the expression "heaven on earth" can be pretty straight forward - like being about feeling like you're in a paradise or utopia in your everyday life. There is also the expression "hell on earth".

A few years ago I was talking to a liberal Anglican pastor and she was saying that heaven and hell can be on earth (I assume she was talking about states of mind).

timf · Dec 14, 2025

Feelings are an effect. They can be deceptive and generally not be relied upon as an indicator of truth.

d taylor · Dec 14, 2025

JohnClay said:
I think the expression "heaven on earth" can be pretty straight forward - like being about feeling like you're in a paradise or utopia in your everyday life. There is also the expression "hell on earth".

A few years ago I was talking to a liberal Anglican pastor and she was saying that heaven and hell can be on earth (I assume she was talking about states of mind).

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Yes there is many saying that really are not based on any Biblical fact from scripture.

ViaCrucis · Dec 29, 2025

JohnClay said:
I have heard some Christians and videos/books talk about Christians being able to experience heaven on earth.
I currently believe in the following:

There are also related words like "abundance" and "manifesting". I was wondering if Christians believe heaven on earth can be consistently experienced and if that is Biblical. I think it's related to prosperity gospel but maybe involves even stronger blessings.

I have experienced feelings of heaven on earth myself but they turned out to be manic episodes and I've been hospitalized. At the same time I had missed out on a lot of sleep and if that happens I start taking sleeping tablets. In those cases when my life seemed perfect I ended up unconsciously inventing problems for myself (resulting in hospitalization, etc)

I'd ignore pop buzz words like "abundance" and "manifesting".

There is a genuine case to be made about experiencing the foretaste of heaven; but it isn't going to be found in the pursuit of glory.

When Christians celebrate the Eucharist that, for example, is a very literal meeting between heaven and earth.

JohnClay · Dec 29, 2025

ViaCrucis said:
When Christians celebrate the Eucharist that, for example, is a very literal meeting between heaven and earth.

I've been looking into that lately and apparently: (this might include my sisters' church)

Most non‑denominational Christians see the Eucharist (often called Communion or the Lord’s Supper) as a symbolic remembrance of Jesus’ death and resurrection.

Based on Jesus’ words: “Do this in remembrance of me.”

The bread symbolizes His body.

The cup symbolizes His blood.

The focus is on gratitude, reflection, and remembering the central story of the Christian faith.

ViaCrucis · Tuesday at 12:50 PM

JohnClay said:
I've been looking into that lately and apparently: (this might include my sisters' church)

Non-denominational churches are--and I don't mean this in a dismissive hostile way--part of the same modern Evangelical Protestant tradition. Non-denominationalism is largely shaped by certain religious traditions. Reformed, Baptist, and Charismatic.

It is quite natural, then, that you won't find many--if any--non-denominational churches which subscribe to the historic Christian belief in the Real Presence.

But I want to be clear. Up until the time of Ulrich Zwingli in the 1500's, Christian teaching on this subject was unanimous in confessing the bread and wine in the Eucharist were the true body and blood of Jesus. There were divergent ideas concerning the finer details: in the West the concept of Transubstantiation dominated largely through the influence of Thomas Aquinas, and applying Aristotelian logic to the Mystery of the Supper. When the Lutherans rejected Transubstantiation, it was a rejection of philosophy rather than a rejection of doctrine; specifically: Lutherans rejected the attempt to try and explain the how of the Eucharist. The Lutheran approach argues "It is what it is", it's the body and blood of Jesus. How can bread and wine be the body and blood of Jesus? Because Jesus says so. Any attempt to go further than that is met with suspicion in Lutheranism. However some Protestants wanted to go further. John Calvin maintained that if Christ's body is in heaven, then how can it also be at every celebration of the Eucharist, thus Calvin would argue that there is a spiritual presence of Christ's body in the faithful reception of the bread and wine, so that the body and blood of Jesus are received in a spiritual receptive way. Ulrich Zwingli went fully radical: Arguing that the Eucharist is a purely symbolic act, a memorial of what Jesus had done; and the bread and the wine represent, as tokens, of the body and blood of Jesus but that there is neither a physical partaking nor even a spiritual partaking--but only a memorial celebration.

Much of modern Protestantism has been influenced by the Zwinglian tradition on the Eucharist. But it's just that, a tradition.

RileyG · Friday at 6:30 PM

d taylor said:
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No person knows what heaven is like, so how do they know that they are experiencing heaven on earth.

Maybe it's more of a metaphor?

RileyG · Friday at 6:32 PM

ViaCrucis said:
I'd ignore pop buzz words like "abundance" and "manifesting".

There is a genuine case to be made about experiencing the foretaste of heaven; but it isn't going to be found in the pursuit of glory.

When Christians celebrate the Eucharist that, for example, is a very literal meeting between heaven and earth.

YES! I've often heard the phrase as the liturgy of the Eucharist as heaven coming down to earth, or heaven and earth meeting.

RileyG · Friday at 6:32 PM

ViaCrucis said:
Non-denominational churches are--and I don't mean this in a dismissive hostile way--part of the same modern Evangelical Protestant tradition. Non-denominationalism is largely shaped by certain religious traditions. Reformed, Baptist, and Charismatic.

It is quite natural, then, that you won't find many--if any--non-denominational churches which subscribe to the historic Christian belief in the Real Presence.

But I want to be clear. Up until the time of Ulrich Zwingli in the 1500's, Christian teaching on this subject was unanimous in confessing the bread and wine in the Eucharist were the true body and blood of Jesus. There were divergent ideas concerning the finer details: in the West the concept of Transubstantiation dominated largely through the influence of Thomas Aquinas, and applying Aristotelian logic to the Mystery of the Supper. When the Lutherans rejected Transubstantiation, it was a rejection of philosophy rather than a rejection of doctrine; specifically: Lutherans rejected the attempt to try and explain the how of the Eucharist. The Lutheran approach argues "It is what it is", it's the body and blood of Jesus. How can bread and wine be the body and blood of Jesus? Because Jesus says so. Any attempt to go further than that is met with suspicion in Lutheranism. However some Protestants wanted to go further. John Calvin maintained that if Christ's body is in heaven, then how can it also be at every celebration of the Eucharist, thus Calvin would argue that there is a spiritual presence of Christ's body in the faithful reception of the bread and wine, so that the body and blood of Jesus are received in a spiritual receptive way. Ulrich Zwingli went fully radical: Arguing that the Eucharist is a purely symbolic act, a memorial of what Jesus had done; and the bread and the wine represent, as tokens, of the body and blood of Jesus but that there is neither a physical partaking nor even a spiritual partaking--but only a memorial celebration.

Much of modern Protestantism has been influenced by the Zwinglian tradition on the Eucharist. But it's just that, a tradition.

Yes! I'm amazed by your immense knowledge and appreciate this post!

d taylor · Saturday at 7:52 AM

RileyG said:
Maybe it's more of a metaphor?

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Well who is saying that, it could be just someone who has no Biblical knowledge.

DragonFox91 · Saturday at 6:38 PM

It is impossible for man to create heaven on earth, in some part due to what you say OP: "we will always create problems for ourselves."

Sometimes I say that ("we will always create problems") & people tell me I'm being pessimistic. Whenever your hear someone say "this will solve your problems", be ware, there'll only be more created.

But this is one reason why a Saviour (Jesus) is needed.

ViaCrucis · Saturday at 10:19 PM

DragonFox91 said:
It is impossible for man to create heaven on earth, in some part due to what you say OP: "we will always create problems for ourselves."

Sometimes I say that ("we will always create problems") & people tell me I'm being pessimistic. Whenever your hear someone say "this will solve your problems", be ware, there'll only be more created.

But this is one reason why a Saviour (Jesus) is needed.

The Bible is replete with heaven-earth union language.

The Tabernacle/Temple is the chief example of this in the Old Testament.

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