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Trump signs executive order classifying fentanyl as a ‘weapon of mass destruction’
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Its horrible. I know one person who's died from this. Others here perhaps know several.
But that doesnt make it a WMD. Is anything so bad that we have to lose our minds over it, and surrender our ability to think clearly? We can fight fentanyl without doing that - Id hope.
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Ummm. Anyone who has observed Cartel operations knows the mules are considered disposable. A panga and it's occupants can be easily replaced. The reputation of the U.S. and the U.S. Navy.....not so much.
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Folks are already losing their minds over things like a ballroom.
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Fentanyl doesn't come from Venezuela. Even government sites tell you that. I linked to 2 earlier. So you know that as a fact as told to you by this administration. So when Trump says he's solving the fentanyl problem by blowing up boats from Venezuela in the Carribean then we both know he's lying.
You can try to justify what he's doing if you like. But to say that he's not lying about what he says he's doing...is just peverse.
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Hmm what was the Biden admin up to one wonders.
A lethal chemical substance being sent to the US that's killing as many as 350,000 Americans per year. Meh no biggie.
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I didn't say thousands of people dying is "no biggie"....and stop implying otherwise, Servus.
How many of those 350,000 deaths will be prevented by delcaring a drug as a weapon of mass destruction?
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I guess I need to start reminding people that words have meanings again. How quickly they forget...
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The order obviously only applies to Venezuela, even though they play no role in the distribution of fentanyl. They just are an opportune target for oil raids.
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Fentanyl isn't killing "as many as 350,000 Americans per year". About 90,000 to 110,000 Americans die per year from drug overdoses of all kinds.
Estimates are that synthetic opioids kill as many as 80,000 per year (of which about 18,000 were prescription opioids).
Products - Vital Statistics Rapid Release - Provisional Drug Overdose Data
Map and trend line show provisional national counts and state-level percent changes in overdose deaths—updated monthly
www.cdc.gov
FastStats
FastStats is an official application from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and puts access to topic-specific statistics at your fingertips.
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Overstating your case by x4 doesn't do anything to help people believe your claims.
You could also use your own argument to declare oil is a WMD. After all, oil is a "lethal chemical substance being sent to the US that's killing as many as
Air Pollution From Oil and Gas Kills 91,000 Yearly in US: Study
Asian, Black, Hispanic, and Native American communities experience the worst burden from air pollution from oil and gas in the US.
earth.org
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I'm going by overall comments and attitudes expressed across the board. There seems to be great resistance to an aggressive proactive stance against fentanyl and other illegal drugs coming into the US.
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Yes, let's keep coming up with excuses to do nothing about it.
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Yeah, they really flip out when you don't use their preferred pronoun.
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My bad. As many as 350k is over a period of about 5 years. Which I wrote originally. But obviously I got my wires crossed later on.
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That hasn't been my experience. The people I know who have preferred pronouns simply politely state that preference when it's needed, and if the preference is not respected, simply shrug it off, or, at worst, choose not to interact with that other person. I've never, not even once, met anyone who would "flip out" if their preferred pronouns were not being respected.
Maybe you have different experiences, I can't say...but I still suspect those who "flip out" are very much in the minority.
-- A2SG, people are different, ya know....
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Im against the drug war nonsense entirely, this latest incarnation with extrajudicial killings and looming military intervention is getting all my least favorite US polices together.
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