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Is there another '1st World' country, where our darkskin-Black friends get arrested for having mental health crises?

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Larniavc said:
What I think might be better is if the police in America were given more than the bare minimum training in mental health problems.
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Functional mental health system would help too but, socialism!!!! and all that.
 
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Factotum said:
They are EXACTLY given more than the bare minimum. They make a conscious choice to NOT use that training.
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You know this how? We watched a film on surviving edged weapons in the police academy and that was the closest thing we had to training in how to deal with mentally ill people.
I hope it's better now but your accusations are baseless
 
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Desk trauma said:
Functional mental health system would help too but, socialism!!!! and all that.
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We need more funding in my state and more facilities that they can get help from.
 
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We need more funding in my state and more facilities that they can get help from.
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Mental health care is not good for the most part here. We need more funding and more community based services. I still remember 1984 as the year that NYS closed its state psychiatric facilities on the theory that the new medications allowed patients better care within the community with less expense to the state. (There had also a few too many horrific exposes of these institutions.) What actually happened was that the psychiatric hospitals closed but the funding was never redirected to the community resources. Jails took the place of emergency care and homelessness soared.
 
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Factotum said:
Well, then you should have nothing to say about if laws exist. Once you concoct reasons to not go learn that you were flagrant for challenging me.

And remember too, if you and @BPPLEE find tomorrow that you completed yall's objective to start up enough nonsense in here for Admin to close this thread? It won't change how THE. LAWS. STILL. EXIST! :) And there's nothing you can do to dispute that.
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That's not how this works. If you want us to believe such laws actually exist you need to post links to the actual law (like the kind of link posted to the unsuccessful federal legislation. If the laws exist, they are online in text or PDF format. This is what it is called to do you own work to demonstrate your claim, so...

pick up your android tablet, open up the chrome browser, search google again for your string, and collect the direct links needed to post here and demonstrate your claim. (Given all of the backlash to "defund the police" I suspect that no such law could have been passed without at least 2 days of full coverage on FoxNews et al., but if you've got it, show my assumption to be wrong.)

In case you are wondering, I got the bits about your device and browser from the google link you posted. This is why we should all try to practice good net hygiene.
 
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Factotum said:
They are EXACTLY given more than the bare minimum. They make a conscious choice to NOT use that training.
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Dunno about that. They only seem to get about five months training. That’s no time at all.
 
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Hans Blaster said:
In case you are wondering, I got the bits about your device and browser from the google link you posted. This is why we should all try to practice good net hygiene.
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Oo! Do me next! What am I projecting into InfoSapce?
 
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Larniavc said:
Oo! Do me next! What am I projecting into InfoSapce?
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If you post a dirty search link from google we can find some things, but frankly, I don't recommend you do that.
 
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Hans Blaster said:
In case you are wondering, I got the bits about your device and browser from the google link you posted. This is why we should all try to practice good net hygiene.
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LOL
In case you are wondering... I am not concerned about any of that. And I am unmoved by your interpretation or hallucination re: good net hygiene.

I do care that you realize how whenever you challenge someone about laws, then you risk embarrassing yourself by acting like laws don't exist just because you were elated that one (1) law effort did not pass --although many other similar laws do exist.
 
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...but if you've got it, show my assumption to be wrong.
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I already did that.
It's not my fault if you choose to pretend laws don't exist wherever you dont appreciate those laws. See, look:
 
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Yes, Michigan has laws and is developing programs, like Mobile Crisis Teams (MCTs) and Co-Responder Teams (CRTs), that enable mental health experts to respond to crises, often diverting from or working with police, focusing on de-escalation and health-based solutions, aligning with federal guidance for health-focused responses instead of law enforcement-only ones. Key Michigan laws like MCL 333.20967 give authority to health professionals at emergencies, while specific programs are expanding, supported by state leaders.

Key Michigan Laws & Concepts:
MCL 333.20967 (Emergency Patient Management): Gives licensed health professionals authority to manage patients at an emergency scene, similar to EMS, allowing for health-led intervention.
MCL 330.1712 & 330.1748 (Mental Health Code): Focus on person-centered care, confidentiality, and rights, underpinning how services are delivered, including crisis support.

Emerging Models & Programs:
Mobile Crisis Teams (MCTs): Community-based mental health professionals respond to crises, often without police initially, though police can be called if needed.
Co-Responder Teams (CRTs): Pair law enforcement with clinicians to respond together, blending law enforcement presence with mental health expertise.
988 & MiCAL: Michigan's 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (MiCAL) routes calls to trained crisis counselors, providing immediate support and diverting some calls from 911 dispatch.

Support for Alternatives:
A 2024 University of Michigan survey showed most Michigan law enforcement leaders support alternative response models, indicating a push for these health-based approaches.

Federal Context:
Federal guidance emphasizes that people with behavioral health needs deserve a health response, not just a law enforcement one, pushing states to invest in non-police crisis services.
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:)
 
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Factotum said:
LOL
In case you are wondering... I am not concerned about any of that. And I am unmoved by your interpretation or hallucination re: good net hygiene.

I do care that you realize how whenever you challenge someone about laws, then you risk embarrassing yourself by acting like laws don't exist just because you were elated that one (1) law effort did not pass --although many other similar laws do exist.
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If you want to post that stuff, fine, but the rest of us (when aware) will stay away from your link like they are direct links to having your computer hacked.
 
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