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Well, you made a very convincing argument.
You're confused. It was your argument. It's what you want. All you could do was offer some pseudo satirical acceptance of it. Now you have no options except deflection. It's your only recourse. Which, in case you weren't aware, simply confirms the observation.

Well, I say It's your only recourse. But you could of course actually tell us that you'd be happy for all these dealers to be killed with no due process whether on the high seas or your local neighbourhood. In fact, I suspect that you'd be more convinced that they should be executed if they were in your suburb.
 
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You're confused. It was your argument. It's what you want. All you could do was offer some pseudo satirical acceptance of it. Now you have no options except deflection. It's your only recourse. Which, in case you weren't aware, simply confirms the observation.

Well, I say It's your only recourse. But you could of course actually tell us that you'd be happy for all these dealers to be killed with no due process whether on the high seas or your local neighbourhood. In fact, I suspect that you'd be more convinced that they should be executed if they were in your suburb.
Deflection? I think i have been pretty clear whwre I stand. Yes. I want to see all these murdering rapist dead. The world would be a much better place if they all just had a heart attack. Whether by bomb in international waters, or by an executioner after months of trials and legal processes. The end is still the same, but the former is much quicker and cheaper. What I don't get is why you are trying to play "gotcha" when I am saying, "Darn right! Blow the trash into fish chum. Give them the same compassion, empathy, and consideration that they give to their customers who die from their product. Then let God figure out the rest." Now I hope you are done doing whoever it was you are trying to do. But from my perspective, it appeard to be a lot of nonsensical and emotional rantings about things you do not understand. Have I made myself clear, or do you wish to continue your creepy rants?
 
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Deflection?
What else was it? You don't fool anyone. Don't kid yourself, for heaven's sake.
I think i have been pretty clear whwre I stand. Yes. I want to see all these murdering rapist dead. The world would be a much better place if they all just had a heart attack. Whether by bomb in international waters, or by an executioner after months of trials and legal processes. The end is still the same, but the former is much quicker and cheaper.
No, you dance around it. You've been saying that due process should be followed on US soil. That it's the FBI that has to break down doors and use those handcuffs. Except now, at last, we get you saying exactly what you'd prefer. That all this bulldust about that due process is just that. Bulldust. Kill them. And to blazes with due process. Because hey, it's cheaper and easier.
What I don't get is why you are trying to play "gotcha"...
Because not many people, including you, want to admit what you've now admitted. People have to be poked and prodded. People have to be prompted. But eventually the desire to speak your mind becomes too great. We 'getcha' to tell us what you really want eventually.
 
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Deflection? I think i have been pretty clear whwre I stand. Yes. I want to see all these murdering rapist dead. The world would be a much better place if they all just had a heart attack. Whether by bomb in international waters, or by an executioner after months of trials and legal processes. The end is still the same, but the former is much quicker and cheaper. What I don't get is why you are trying to play "gotcha" when I am saying, "Darn right! Blow the trash into fish chum. Give them the same compassion, empathy, and consideration that they give to their customers who die from their product. Then let God figure out the rest." Now I hope you are done doing whoever it was you are trying to do. But from my perspective, it appeard to be a lot of nonsensical and emotional rantings about things you do not understand. Have I made myself clear, or do you wish to continue your creepy rants?
So the ends justify the means, is that the contention? It doesn't matter what laws are broken, what war crimes are committed, so long as the goal, death to those suspected of running drugs, is achieved?

I'm guessing the principle of the presumption of innocence has been abandoned now? Gee, and it was touted so strongly back when Donald Trump was on trial for criminal fraud.

-- A2SG, almost as if people believed in that sort of thing.....
 
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I am pleased to see so many people enjoy having others doing the killing for them who may face trials in the future while they stay safe and sound at home.
 
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What else was it? You don't fool anyone. Don't kid yourself, for heaven's sake.

No, you dance around it. You've been saying that due process should be followed on US soil. That it's the FBI that has to break down doors and use those handcuffs. Except now, at last, we get you saying exactly what you'd prefer. That all this bulldust about that due process is just that. Bulldust. Kill them. And to blazes with due process. Because hey, it's cheaper and easier.

Because not many people, including you, want to admit what you've now admitted. People have to be poked and prodded. People have to be prompted. But eventually the desire to speak your mind becomes too great. We 'getcha' to tell us what you really want eventually.
I have not danced around anything. You just refuse to read what I actually stated. You call it "poking" but it is actually harassment. Would i prefer them to be blown up in the water? Yes! But did I ever suggest they should not receive due process if on US soil? Absolutely not.
 
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I am pleased to see so many people enjoy having others doing the killing for them who may face trials in the future while they stay safe and sound at home.
Are they supposed to guilt trip over the military doing what the military does? Is that why you invited me to join up? Because you resent being out there having to do the dirty work while I sit safe at home?
 
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Are they supposed to guilt trip over the military doing what the military does? Is that why you invited me to join up? Because you resent being out there having to do the dirty work while I sit safe at home?
I think there are many people in the military who don't like the idea of doing your dirty work for you. But you do not really notice because you think it's clean.
 
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Deflection? I think i have been pretty clear whwre I stand. Yes. I want to see all these murdering rapist dead. The world would be a much better place if they all just had a heart attack. Whether by bomb in international waters, or by an executioner after months of trials and legal processes. The end is still the same, but the former is much quicker and cheaper. What I don't get is why you are trying to play "gotcha" when I am saying, "Darn right! Blow the trash into fish chum. Give them the same compassion, empathy, and consideration that they give to their customers who die from their product. Then let God figure out the rest." Now I hope you are done doing whoever it was you are trying to do. But from my perspective, it appeard to be a lot of nonsensical and emotional rantings about things you do not understand. Have I made myself clear, or do you wish to continue your creepy rants?
No, you've made yourself clear, and it's a good thing you did. This is, after all, a Christian forum so it is a good thing that you can tell us what Christianity has to say about how to treat your enemies.
 
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No, you've made yourself clear, and it's a good thing you did. This is, after all, a Christian forum so it is a good thing that you can tell us what Christianity has to say about how to treat your enemies.
Yeah. What does Christianity say about justice and how governments should respond to it? Just let criminals off the hook and pray for them? Show me a truly repentant narco terrorist, and I will show forgiveness and mercy. Show a soldier an enemy combatant, and they will show you winning hearts and minds by putting two in the heart and one in the mind. As Romans 13 explains, the government does not wield a sword for no reason. The military and law enforcement is that sword. So please spare me the lecture about how we should turn the other cheek towards serial rapists, murders, drug smugglers, and human traffickers knowing that they will continue to harm others when the alternative is to either kill or incarcerate them so others are safe while they figure themselves out.
 
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So please spare me the lecture about how we should turn the other cheek towards serial rapists, murders....and human traffickers...
Nobody has talked about turning the other cheek. Or discussed serial rapists, murders (sic)....and human traffickers. It seems that some people can't help trying to deflect from the matter at hand. Didn't I explain to you what that indicates?
 
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Are they supposed to guilt trip over the military doing what the military does? Is that why you invited me to join up? Because you resent being out there having to do the dirty work while I sit safe at home?

No, I like what I do.

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Nobody has talked about turning the other cheek. Or discussed serial rapists, murders (sic)....and human traffickers. It seems that some people can't help trying to deflect from the matter at hand. Didn't I explain to you what that indicates?
You have explained nothing. Just completely refused to actually read anything I posted to "poked" (harass) me into "confessing" something I have already clearly stated (that you refused to read). So please enlighten me. What exactly is the "matter at hand" that I am supposedly deflecting away from?
 
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You have explained nothing. Just completely refused to actually read anything I posted to "poked" (harass) me into "confessing" something I have already clearly stated (that you refused to read). So please enlighten me. What exactly is the "matter at hand" that I am supposedly deflecting away from?
I think you eventually explained your position quite well. About drug smugglers that is (which is the matter at hand - see the OP for further details). Is there anything you want to add, or to change? Otherwise...
 
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I think you eventually explained your position quite well. About drug smugglers that is (which is the matter at hand - see the OP for further details). Is there anything you want to add, or to change? Otherwise...
I wish you would add the "matter at hand" that I am supposedly deflecting away from that I had not already addressed. Care to provide a reference? A post number perhaps?
 
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I wish you would add the "matter at hand" that I am supposedly deflecting away from that I had not already addressed. Care to provide a reference? A post number perhaps?
Is there a problem with your screen..?
About drug smugglers that is (which is the matter at hand - see the OP for further details).
Hope that appears OK.
 
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