Christians can 'love all people' and support 'Alligator Alcatraz,' Evangelical group says

Michie said:

Detention center in Florida has drawn protests over plans to house up to 5,000 illegal immigrants

The newly-opened Florida detention facility housing illegal immigrants known as “Alligator Alcatraz” has drawn both praise and protest.

President Donald Trump visited the detention center in the Florida Everglades on Tuesday, along with Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and other officials for a tour that officials hoped could spur other states to open similar facilities.

Built by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in just a matter of days, “Alligator Alcatraz” — named for its surrounding swamps teeming with alligators and pythons — received its first detainees this week, according to The Associated Press.

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Christians can 'love all people' and support 'Alligator Alcatraz,' Evangelical group says

The newly-opened Florida detention facility housing illegal immigrants known as Alligator Alcatraz has drawn both praise and protest

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That depends on how humanely it is run.

so what everyone has a problem with everything.

Here are some details about Alligator Alcatraz:

Photos show what's known as a dormitory set-up. This same set-up is used in some prisons.

The prison and cells are basically chain-link, enclosed in temporary type structures.

Perhaps most important, given the climate, is the housing units have AC. That's not only a temperature issue, but humidity as well. TB can spread in high temperatures and high humidity.

There are inside bathrooms, including shower stalls.

The facility can withstand up to 110 MPH winds.

In addition to grid power, it has backup generators.

It's built on the side of an airport. Aerial photos show several man-made ponds near the facility. My guess is that much of the basics already existed and the prison is built on existing asphalt.

Inmates are to be fed three times a day.

The intent is short-term incarceration before deportation.

My question is then why Christians should be opposed to prisoners incarcerated in Alligator Alcatraz rather than another facility. It's not like the prisoners will be bunking with alligators. If the issue is the deportation of those who entered the US illegally or overstayed their visas, then shouldn't that be the issue rather than where they are incarcerated?

Here is a critical view of Alligator Alcatraz. Detainees at ‘Alligator Alcatraz’ facing ‘harrowing human right violations’, new report alleges.

Don't know what is true but I am pretty sure it might be hard to get a prisoner to a hospital if they needed it. I read some have been airlifted. I have to laugh at being able to handle just 115 MPH winds. So a low cat 3 can be handled by these tents? Hope I dont see that on the news.

As to the facility, it is subpar because of the lack of plumbing. All toilets are portable potties. To me that is unacceptable. I think American can do better especially at the price we are paying.


Alligator Alcatraz detention center are portable. Since the facility lacks permanent structures and plumbing, portable units are used for restrooms "and showers.

Details regarding the portable toilets:

• Sewage Removal: The waste from these portable toilets must be collected and trucked off-site, which has led to logistical challenges.
• Reported Issues: Detainees and former guards have reported that the portable toilets routinely back up, sometimes overflowing with fecal waste and contaminating the sleeping areas.
• Conflicting Reports: The Florida Division of Emergency Management has denied reports of issues with the portable toilets, claiming that the facility is in good working order.

The estimated cost to house a detainee at the
Alligator Alcatraz immigration detention facility is approximately $245 per day"

Folks that is about 94k per year. Fl;orida's average is around 40k for their state prisoners. Here is a state by state breakdown of prison costs.

How much do states spend on housing prisoners? | USAFacts

States in the South spend the least per inmate and have some of the highest prison incarceration rates in the nation.

usafacts.org

Michie said:

Detention center in Florida has drawn protests over plans to house up to 5,000 illegal immigrants

The newly-opened Florida detention facility housing illegal immigrants known as “Alligator Alcatraz” has drawn both praise and protest.

President Donald Trump visited the detention center in the Florida Everglades on Tuesday, along with Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and other officials for a tour that officials hoped could spur other states to open similar facilities.

Built by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in just a matter of days, “Alligator Alcatraz” — named for its surrounding swamps teeming with alligators and pythons — received its first detainees this week, according to The Associated Press.

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Christians can 'love all people' and support 'Alligator Alcatraz,' Evangelical group says

The newly-opened Florida detention facility housing illegal immigrants known as Alligator Alcatraz has drawn both praise and protest

www.christianpost.com

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I don't know if it's fair to say Christians are actually 'supporting' the prison, by accepting that it exists to house people who broke the law in colossal ways. The Christians job can then be to love and to show compassion to the inmates.

Richard T said:

Here is a critical view of Alligator Alcatraz. Detainees at ‘Alligator Alcatraz’ facing ‘harrowing human right violations’, new report alleges.

Don't know what is true but I am pretty sure it might be hard to get a prisoner to a hospital if they needed it. I read some have been airlifted. I have to laugh at being able to handle just 115 MPH winds. So a low cat 3 can be handled by these tents? Hope I dont see that on the news.

As to the facility, it is subpar because of the lack of plumbing. All toilets are portable potties. To me that is unacceptable. I think American can do better especially at the price we are paying.


Alligator Alcatraz detention center are portable. Since the facility lacks permanent structures and plumbing, portable units are used for restrooms "and showers.

Details regarding the portable toilets:

• Sewage Removal: The waste from these portable toilets must be collected and trucked off-site, which has led to logistical challenges.
• Reported Issues: Detainees and former guards have reported that the portable toilets routinely back up, sometimes overflowing with fecal waste and contaminating the sleeping areas.
• Conflicting Reports: The Florida Division of Emergency Management has denied reports of issues with the portable toilets, claiming that the facility is in good working order.

The estimated cost to house a detainee at the
Alligator Alcatraz immigration detention facility is approximately $245 per day"

Folks that is about 94k per year. Fl;orida's average is around 40k for their state prisoners. Here is a state by state breakdown of prison costs.

How much do states spend on housing prisoners? | USAFacts

States in the South spend the least per inmate and have some of the highest prison incarceration rates in the nation.

usafacts.org

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Might they be intentionally perfecting a horrible plumbing concept, to be used as a deterrent itself?