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What really is "dividing the body of Christ"??

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Sooner or later, in many discussions, debates or arguments about Scripture, theology, or doctrine,- interpretation rears its head.

I think every denomination and probably every Christian has interpretations that they stand firmly by and believe to be the *true* interpretations.

Discussion or debate comes about when differing interpretations clash.

Division comes about when one (or neither) side is willing to admit that they are both arguing about interpretations.

As I heard in one lively debate of a Scriptural point where one side was remaining calm and the other side was getting VERY worked up and hostile.
The moderator asked the angry debater to clam down and thanked the other debater for maintaining a level head.
The calm debater said, "Thank you. You see, we are both really just arguing about a differing interpretation. But, only one of us willing to admit that."
Some of this comes down to what people believe about the Bible, with so many quickly trotting out 2 Peter 1:20-21 to try to insist that their understanding isn't an interpretation. A lot of unspoken Protestant theology about what the Bible is and how it is to be read makes discussions extremely difficult. Trying to talk about hermeneutics, text critical issues, translation issues, historical context, and on and on simply aren't on the table for a lot of believers because they've been taught all it takes is sitting in a closet with your English Bible and all questions will be answered. It can't be that they are interepreting it as they read, it has to be that their understanding is what the "plain" meaning of the text is.
 
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People use this phrase a lot when there are arguments but for the most part, it looks like people are using it incorrectly, so I thought I'd start off this discussion by expounding on what is, and isn't "dividing the body of Christ".

1. First, let's define the word "dividing".
Dividing means to separate. I mean, that's as plain as it can get lol. If you divide an apple in half, you are cutting into two pieces. It is no longer whole, it is divided.

2. Now, what is the body of Christ?
It's a metaphor used by Paul in 1 Corinthians 12 and Romans 12 to describe the Church as a whole. All believers in Jesus, united under one head of leadership. We can get more nuanced with this but let's just leave it as, anyone who follows Christ in faith. So regardless of denomination, race, or background.

3. Dividing the Body of Christ
So instead of unity (one body) all following Christ, you have division. Examples of this are:
  • A) Breaking unity over non-essentials like: "I follow Paul" or "I follow Apollos" (1 Corinthians 3:4).
  • B) Promoting False Doctrine (Galatians 5:7-10, Romans 16:17, 1 Corinthians 1:10)
  • Gossip or slander (Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 16:28, 2 Corinthians 12:20) But there is a difference between "quarreling" and debate. The motive for quarreling is often pride (James 4:1) and can be over arguments that are "foolish" in nature (Titus 3:9) because the outcome ruins "good hearers" (2 Timothy 2:14 and 2 Timothy 2:23). The Motive for a debate is restoration by correction which can have a fruitful outcome when someone is corrected.
4. So if promoting false doctrine is considered dividing the body, what is NOT dividing the body?

Rebuke: Correcting a person in error by holding them accountable, correcting behavior and correcting scripture. (Matthew 18:15, Luke 17:3, 2 Timothy 4:2, 1 Timothy 5:20, Titus 1:13)

If someone is preaching something false, that's already divided, but debating someone or even getting into a heated debate, isn't dividing, it's actually an attempt at becoming whole again where both people can agree. THAT is unity. So I think people need to be careful that just because 2 people are having an argument/debate, doesn't necessarily mean division, when scripturally speaking its a step towards unity (depending on context of course).

Denominations are already scripturally divided and we should duke it out more often so we can come together in unity of belief instead of attempting to pacify the debate with a chastisement of "dividing the body of Christ" which is only preventing us from actually being whole and keeping us divided with "you interpret it this way, I interpret it this way" and leaving it in that divided state. That's not helping, thats encouraging continued true division.

So within this context, can we stop throwing that phrase around and continue debating so we can become a unified front instead of a fractured one?

Now, within that spirit, feel free to debate me. :heart:

1Co 12:13 For by one spirit we are all immersed into one body.....

The universal blood bought body of Christ is not divided. It might have differing levels of maturity, but that is by design.
 
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Y'know, with the way the world is, one would think Christians would see the need to unite together for mutual support and encouragement rather than wrangle over certain points of the faith ad infinitum. But I guess I hope for too much.
No you don't hope too much. For God nothing is impossible and I believe He does not allow for His church to go for too long without a correction.

It will come and I think its beginning now. Just like in society we have witnessed some horrible and hateful stuff. As a response I think good Christians will reflect and be reproved and rise up. Its like every action will have an equal and opposite reaction.

But this won't be any human made rising up. This will be Gods spirit at work being poured out on the world.
 
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No you don't hope too much. For God nothing is impossible and I believe He does not allow for His church to go for too long without a correction.

It will come and I think its beginning now.

Do you mean that you see a movement toward unity in the church now? Or that you see God correcting the church now? Can you elaborate?
 
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Aside from the differences between Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants, things that divide the Protestant denominations seem not so egregious that I cant worship with them. I practically abhor calvinistic doctrine, but I do love and fellowship with the Calvinist friends I know. I am very dogmatic about most of my beliefs, but I still talk and can share a bible study with those whom I disagree.
The things that divide most denominations are trivial when compared to all the things they agree on.

The few things that divide us aren't worth the dividing of believers into separate denominations and buildings. Most people in my neighborhood wouldnt dare go to a neighbors church, sometimes even if its just another non denominational(!). So sad, all the other believers you may never get to know, simply because we are taught 'those others' believe differently, yet most persons in a denomination have little understanding of what it is they believe differently. Sometimes people in a denomination are taught to look down on think less of the other denomination. That is a real evil - the inability to reason over simple views of doctrine, and the idea that talking with another believer who has a different take on a verse is going to lead you into hell, or something.

That is the smokescreen of denominations, and it all comes from the hierarchical structure to keep you in your seat, and get your tithe. Rather believers should be able to reason thru their beliefs with others. bible study should give you a chance to show understanding, grace and self control as you and your friends wrestle through scripture together, and with someone who has a different understanding on something. Bible studies should be growing us all to be well versed in scripture - educating and building you up so you are confident in your beliefs, where you can learn to have a friendly debate instead of huddling in some group think cult...
 
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