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prodromos · Wednesday at 7:28 PM

reBoot said:
Yes, that's just one aspect of it (as a mockery of Christ).

How exactly is it a mockery of Christ?

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 9:45 PM

prodromos said:
How exactly is it a mockery of Christ?

I wouldn't call it a mockery more like a copying a bit like the LGBT who copied the rainbow for their logo.
It's Satan doing what he does best 'COPYING'.

Strong in Him · 2025-12-04T01:38:51-0600

reBoot said:
Yes, that's just one aspect of it (as a mockery of Christ).

Nonsense.
That doesn't mock Christ at all.

David Lamb · 2025-12-04T02:12:54-0600

Strong in Him said:
Nonsense.
That doesn't mock Christ at all.

Yes. It requires a huge stretch of the imagination to think that because there are 33 sectors on the UN symbol, and Jesus was 33 years old when He was crucified, that must somehow mean that the UN is mocking Christ.

Jerry N. · 2025-12-04T03:05:23-0600

David Lamb said:
Yes. It requires a huge stretch of the imagination to think that because there are 33 sectors on the UN symbol, and Jesus was 33 years old when He was crucified, that must somehow mean that the UN is mocking Christ.

I’m not into conspiracy theories, even if many turn out to be true. However, if you like such things, the 33 sectors would be most likely connected to the 33 degrees of the Scottish Rite of Freemasons.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-04T03:14:43-0600

David Lamb said:
Yes. It requires a huge stretch of the imagination to think that because there are 33 sectors on the UN symbol, and Jesus was 33 years old when He was crucified, that must somehow mean that the UN is mocking Christ.

Like I said it is not so much as mocking as copying.

Isaiah 14:12

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-04T03:19:18-0600

Jerry N. said:
However, if you like such things, the 33 sectors would be most likely connected to the 33 degrees of the Scottish Rite of Freemasons.

This is correct & it was Albert Pike who first introduced Lucifer into the mix.

Strong in Him · 2025-12-04T04:32:27-0600

Apple Sky said:
This is correct & it was Albert Pike who first introduced Lucifer into the mix.

It's incorrect, and who's Albert Pike?

David Lamb · 2025-12-04T04:37:06-0600

Apple Sky said:
Like I said it is not so much as mocking as copying.

Isaiah 14:12

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

It's only copying if whoever designed the UN logo thought to themselves, "Ah! Jesus was 33 years old when He was crucified, so I'll make 33 the number of segments on my logo." Surely you are not saying that the number 33 cannot be used because Jesus died when He was 33.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-04T05:50:35-0600

Strong in Him said:
It's incorrect, and who's Albert Pike?

A master 33 degree freemason who wrote a book called 'Morals & Dogma.

MORALS and DOGMA by ALBERT PIKE Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry , prepared for the Supreme Council of the Thirty Third Degree for the Southern Jurisdiction of the United States: Charleston, 1871.

MORALS and DOGMA by ALBERT PIKE SHORT BIOGRAPHY TITLES OF DEGREES 1º - Apprentice 2º - Fellow-craft 3º - Master 4º - Secret Master 5º - Perfect Master

LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls ? Doubt it not!

https://pdfcoffee.com/albert-pike-morals-and-dogma-5-pdf-free.html

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-04T06:48:34-0600

I wonder what will happen once the flat earthers discover that Flat Earth was created by the elite in order to discredit Christianity by making them look like fools.

Jerry N. · 2025-12-04T07:04:51-0600

Apple Sky said:
A master 33 degree freemason who wrote a book called 'Morals & Dogma.

MORALS and DOGMA by ALBERT PIKE Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry , prepared for the Supreme Council of the Thirty Third Degree for the Southern Jurisdiction of the United States: Charleston, 1871.

MORALS and DOGMA by ALBERT PIKE SHORT BIOGRAPHY TITLES OF DEGREES 1º - Apprentice 2º - Fellow-craft 3º - Master 4º - Secret Master 5º - Perfect Master

LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls ? Doubt it not!

https://pdfcoffee.com/albert-pike-morals-and-dogma-5-pdf-free.html

Pike certainly was not a good fellow. His ideas are mostly Gnostic and cabalistic. He probably did not worship Lucifer, but he did bring in all sorts of heretical teachings into Freemason doctrine. He didn’t think Lucifer was a real being. He thought of him as a personification of pride. If you want a conspiracy theory, you can’t get one more tangled than the influence of Freemasonry. In my opinion, there is little that is Christian in their teachings, except they sometimes help the poor and children. Low level Masons just enjoy a club, but high level masons are something else.

The reason that the 33 sectors of the map in the UN logo might be connected to Freemasons is the push for a One World Order.

David Lamb · 2025-12-04T07:16:44-0600

Jerry N. said:
The reason that the 33 sectors of the map in the UN logo might be connected to Freemasons is the push for a One World Order.

Just wondering - is it known whether the designer of the UN logo was a Freemason?

d taylor · 2025-12-04T07:29:53-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
I wonder what will happen once the flat earthers discover that Flat Earth was created by the elite in order to discredit Christianity by making them look like fools.

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90% of globe believing christianity is already doing this, by their false man made worked based gospels.

David Lamb · 2025-12-04T07:37:49-0600

d taylor said:
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90% of globe believing christianity is already doing this, by their false man made worked based gospels.

I believe that the earth is a globe, but I certainly don't believe in a works-based gospel (I assume that is what you meant, rather than "worked based.) The gospel says "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved." It doesn't say, "...and make sure you believe that the earth is a certain shape."

d taylor · 2025-12-04T07:48:01-0600

David Lamb said:
I believe that the earth is a globe, but I certainly don't believe in a works-based gospel (I assume that is what you meant, rather than "worked based.) The gospel says "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved." It doesn't say, "...and make sure you believe that the earth is a certain shape."

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You should quit reading into post what you think they are saying and actually follow what the post is addressing.

I never stated that a person must believe in a certain shape of earth.

Poster Aryeh Jay wrote
I wonder what will happen once the flat earthers discover that Flat Earth was created by the elite in order to discredit Christianity by making them look like fools.

So i stated
90% of globe believing christianity is already doing this, by their false man made worked based gospels.

My post was simply stating that most churches are preaching a worked based gospel.
That was the point of my post period, i just happened to include that 90% of these churches are also globe believing churches.

So church are already giving Christianity a bad name by preaching false gospels.

David Lamb · 2025-12-04T07:54:29-0600

d taylor said:
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You should quit reading into post what you think they are saying and actually follow what the post is addressing.

I never stated that a person must believe in a certain shape of earth.

Poster Aryeh Jay wrote
I wonder what will happen once the flat earthers discover that Flat Earth was created by the elite in order to discredit Christianity by making them look like fools.

So i stated
90% of globe believing christianity is already doing this, by their false man made worked based gospels.

My post was simply stating that most churches are preaching a worked based gospel.
That was the point of my post period, i just happened to include that 90% of these churches are also globe believing churches.

In that case I sincerely apologise for misunderstanding you. Sorry.

Strong in Him · 2025-12-04T07:55:22-0600

Apple Sky said:
A master 33 degree freemason who wrote a book called 'Morals & Dogma.

MORALS and DOGMA by ALBERT PIKE Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry , prepared for the Supreme Council of the Thirty Third Degree for the Southern Jurisdiction of the United States: Charleston, 1871.

MORALS and DOGMA by ALBERT PIKE SHORT BIOGRAPHY TITLES OF DEGREES 1º - Apprentice 2º - Fellow-craft 3º - Master 4º - Secret Master 5º - Perfect Master

LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls ? Doubt it not!

https://pdfcoffee.com/albert-pike-morals-and-dogma-5-pdf-free.html

Why are you listening to anything a Freemason says?
You often claim that astronauts/NASA are freemasons and imply that, for that reason, they cannot be trusted. I've seen you write, at least once; "freemasons, the lot of them."
But yet you quote from them when it suits you.

Although this, of course, has nothing to do with the U.N. logo which was designed in 1945 and changed in 1946.

Strong in Him · 2025-12-04T08:01:58-0600

Jerry N. said:
The reason that the 33 sectors of the map in the UN logo might be connected to Freemasons is the push for a One World Order.

I doubt it.

United Nations Logo, history, meaning, symbol, PNG

The UN logo is a sign of victory. The organization's focus is the oceans and continents; it surrounds the entire globe with care and attention.

logos-world.net

Apple Sky · 2025-12-04T08:54:37-0600

Strong in Him said:
Why are you listening to anything a Freemason says?

I'm not, you asked who was Albert Pike & I told you.

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