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At one t time, they were called "metrosexual." Meaning that they were men with feminine characteristics. But men nonetheless. Also, there was a time where the word "Tom-Boy" was used to describe a women with male characteristics. Everything was fine until trans ideology and pseudoscience plagued the culture like an infection. This has now become a social contagion.
By changing the names we call them? Calling a trans person a "Tom boy" is OK but calling that person just a "boy" somehow threatens the Republic??? I thought being trans was supposed to be a sin. But not if other people don't have to use words for it you don't like?
 
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Out of curiosity, how many transgender people did you speak to before coming to this conclusion?

-- A2SG, could take a guess, but let's see what you say....
What does that have to do with anything other than an attempt to appeal to stones?
 
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What does that have to do with anything other than an attempt to appeal to stones?
It has to do with whether your assessment is based on actual people or a fiction created about them.

So, which is it?

-- A2SG, care to detail from whence came your research?
 
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"Intersex" is somewhat of a misnomer. Human genome is XX or XY. And there are people who have genetic issues where they have XXY , (fragile X syndrome)
No that is Klinfelters syndrome, fragile X is when a there is a mutation in the FMR1-gene.
or XYY (Jacob's syndrome) - both these syndromes the child is considered and usually "assigned male" at birth. Also though portions of X or Y chromosomes can end up in places where they are not suppose to be; thus they produce birth defects of the genitalia. But truth remains that in human beings; you either have a Y chromosome or you don't. "Y" is "male".

Now there is a very small number of males who have a genetic defect where their bodies don't respond to testosterone. And so in utero; they do not develop male primary sex traits. And when that is the case the "default" development is "female". But these males don't have ovaries or a uterus either. And because their bodies do not respond to testosterone, they will not go through puberty either. But one would need a genetic test to know if this is the case. Thus what is generally done in these cases is the child is given estrogen at puberty; because... giving them testosterone isn't going to work anyways!
Yes, those with complete androgen insensitivity don't develop male primary or secondary sex characteristics. They are widely seen as women across the world. Even without estrogen replacement
Then there is an XX genome with a piece of a Y attached to it which produces a "female" with "male genitalia".
It is called translocation. If the SRY-gene (which determines most of the differentiating int to the male phenotype) gets translocated on to the X chromosome we can say that they are XX SRY+ (positive).
(She basically has ovaries, a uterus and a penis; but some of these girls also have a scrotum and their ovaries actually drop into the scrotum and thus they appear "male" at birth.
Eh, where have you read that most has ovaries and a uterus? That was not in textbooks from what I can remember. The normal presentation is phenotypically male with small testes, but with out producing sperm.
I don't know whether or not some of these girls can bear children; but some of them clearly can't.
Are you sure that it is common for them to have a uterus?
They do not produce testosterone though because they do not have a Y chromosome. (Their gonads are ovaries, not testicles; even if they are in a "scrotum" and they do produce estrogen because they are genetically coded XX.)
They do produce testosterone, but often at a lower level. They don't produce estrogen, normally.
Thus the estrogen will produce breasts and a "feminine" body.
What? The normal presentation is male.
A lot of these girls aren't recognized until puberty because they look like boys at birth and develop normally; (I.E. they don't usually have other health or developmental issues) thus, there's no reason to do a genetic test if no one suspects anything.
Many of them are not even found at puberty (contrary to what you have said here they go through male puberty normally), but in fertility investigations (they don't produce sperms). Some are never discovered.
This genetic defect (X chromosome with Y genetic material attached) comes from the father's production of sperm. In meiosis; some of the genetic material that would produce "Y sperm" ends up in "X sperm". This is not that common though.
Approximately 1 in 20000 boys.

There also exists individuals that are XY SRY-, with an external female phenotype (normally with an uterus and fallopian tubes but no functioning ovaries).

It was ten years I read about this so take my statements with a grain of salt, but I couldn't leave your post uncommented since there seems to be some misunderstandings in it. @BCP1928 I'm not sure that what was presented in the post I just quoted is entirely correct (I saw the informative reaction).
 
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By changing the names we call them? Calling a trans person a "Tom boy" is OK but calling that person just a "boy" somehow threatens the Republic??? I thought being trans was supposed to be a sin. But not if other people don't have to use words for it you don't like?
I dont know if you are deliberately being obtuse, or if you are asking a serious question.
 
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It has to do with whether your assessment is based on actual people or a fiction created about them.

So, which is it?

-- A2SG, care to detail from whence came your research?
I have spoken to at least 4. All of whom had mental health issues on top of their trans delusion. Now this is the part where you appeal to the stone.
 
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I have spoken to at least 4. All of whom had mental health issues on top of their trans delusion.
Cool. I'm curious, though; what was the nature of these conversations? Just wondering if you may have a skewed sample from which you drew your conclusions.

I ask because I know more than that number, one in particular very well, and none of them experienced what you describe.

Now this is the part where you appeal to the stone.
What stone is that?

-- A2SG, Mick or Keith?
 
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I dont know if you are deliberately being obtuse, or if you are asking a serious question.
Why is trans OK with you if you get to call a trans person a "Tomboy? instead of a "boy?" If being trans is a sin, it's a sin whether you call a trans person a tomboy or a boy. Could you also say "butch" or "dyke" without offending your religious sensibilities?
 
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Why is trans OK with you if you get to call a trans person a "Tomboy? instead of a "boy?" If being trans is a sin, it's a sin whether you call a trans person a tomboy or a boy. Could you also say "butch" or "dyke" without offending your religious sensibilities?
Look up the definition of a tom-boy and get back with me.
 
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Irrelevant to the conversation.
I explained why I felt it was relevant. A group therapy situation with people facing the same or similar issues would be more skewed toward one issue than four random individuals, for example.

Look it up.
I'll just go with Mick. Who knows how Keith would feel.

-- A2SG, assuming you could even understand him....
 
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Look up the definition of a tom-boy and get back with me.
I did before I posted. (checks again) Yep. Still the same:

"A girl or young woman who exhibits masculine traits through her activities, behaviors and style."
 
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By changing the names we call them? Calling a trans person a "Tom boy" is OK but calling that person just a "boy" somehow threatens the Republic??? I thought being trans was supposed to be a sin. But not if other people don't have to use words for it you don't like?
Tom Boys are not necessarily trans. Some are straight and some are gay
 
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Tom Boys are not necessarily trans. Some are straight and some are gay
That's right, and it doesn't really matter because the reason they want to present as men is none of our business.
 
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"A girl or young woman who exhibits masculine traits through her activities, behaviors and style."
Now, girls cannot be tom-boys without liberals grooming them into believing that they are boys trapped in a girl's body.
 
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Now, girls cannot be tom-boys without liberals grooming them into believing that they are boys trapped in a girl's body.
Ooh. What slander. You really are getting good.
 
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That's right, and it doesn't really matter because the reason they want to present as men is none of our business.
But the trans activist teachers seem inclined to make it their business as an opportunity to groom.
 
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Ooh. What slander. You really are getting good.
Well, are the teachers in the OP conservative or liberal? You know, the ones who are grooming and indoctinating trans ideology onto their students?
 
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Unless your intention is to appeal to stones it was not relevant.
Did I dismiss your claim by calling it ridiculous or absurd?

No.

I wonder, though, if you may be dealing with a skewed sample. Four individuals isn't exactly a statistically significant segment of the trans population.

-- A2SG, and, as I said, my research suggests otherwise....
 
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