The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

rjs330 · 2025-11-25T11:35:55-0600

rambot said:
They don't have dedicated gender clinics schools but they DO have health clinics and they do have a connection with teh Seattle Children's Gender Clinic.

Dr. Matt Logalbo, Medical Director at Country Doctor Community Health Centers said in a statement that his center operates the school-based centers. Logalbo said the health centers provide comprehensive medical and mental health care while promoting health and educational growth by increasing access to care at school at no cost.

The Centers services include immunizations, sports physicals, well-child visits, sick visits, dental evaluations and referrals, 'as well as gender affirming health care'.

rjs330 · 2025-11-25T11:48:41-0600

rambot said:
They don't have dedicated gender clinics schools but they DO have health clinics and they do have a connection with teh Seattle Children's Gender Clinic.

Emails obtained through records requests include:

While our School-based Health Centers have long offered a continuum of gender-affirming care services including supportive student counseling, promotion of social identity, and health education, this step will allow us to begin offering families access to important medical interventions including hormone treatments,” it states.

2PhiloVoid · 2025-11-25T11:56:45-0600

rambot said:
It's been my experience that DEI trainings don't ask us to show ideological compliance; they just ask us to treat people a certain way as a means of showing respect. I could still hate Gerald but I gotta treat him with respect....kinda thing. But to be fair, every job I've had has a high social component (ie...that's a huge part of being successful at the job) and so how others are treated is really about being successful at my job and not just "making a healthy work atmos".

I think it depends on the organization and who specifically and exactly is heading that organization. I don't just assume that all organizations, schools, companies etc. are clones of each other in their employment of DEI policies. Of course, some day in the future, if and when Democrats again gain the Presidency and Congress, the measure for exacting compliance might get pushed further than it has been th us far up until now. I know of places of employment where they have REQUIRED that you not only sit in on a 'development seminar' for being educated for DEI, but also that you belong to this or that club to show your alleged allegiance to the political ideology behind it.

rambot said:
Their argument is that they have the right to misgender people as a free speech issue.
NVM the hurt it causes trans people; that's their right.

rambot · 2025-11-25T12:03:41-0600

2PhiloVoid said:
I think it depends on the organization and who specifically and exactly is heading that organization. I don't just assume that all organizations, schools, companies etc. are clones of each other in their employment of DEI policies. Of course, some day in the future, if and when Democrats again gain the Presidency and Congress, the measure for exacting compliance might get pushed further than it has been th us far up until now. I know of places of employment where they have REQUIRED required that you not only sit in on a 'development seminar' for being educated for DEI, but also that you belong to this or that club to show your alleged allegiance to the political ideology behind it.

yeah....forcing joining clubs I'm not behind.

I've just never worked in a "traditional" office so I have NO idea what that would be like.

rambot · 2025-11-25T12:07:03-0600

rjs330 said:
Emails obtained through records requests include:

While our School-based Health Centers have long offered a continuum of gender-affirming care services including supportive student counseling, promotion of social identity, and health education, this step will allow us to begin offering families access to important medical interventions including hormone treatments,” it states.

Yes. It's a health a HEALTH CLINIC.

If the child gets a prescription for a hormone treatment from their doctor, then the health clinic and renew and refresh it.

I mean, the email you (apparently quote...though it's uncited) only refers to "this step"....and I can't say for certain what that means.

ARe you opposed to the convinience of it for these families?

rambot · 2025-11-25T12:08:28-0600

rjs330 said:
Dr. Matt Logalbo, Medical Director at Country Doctor Community Health Centers said in a statement that his center operates the school-based centers. Logalbo said the health centers provide comprehensive medical and mental health care while promoting health and educational growth by increasing access to care at school at no cost.

Ok. This sounds absolutely wonderful to me.

rjs330 said:
The Centers services include immunizations, sports physicals, well-child visits, sick visits, dental evaluations and referrals,

This is GREAT!

rjs330 said:
'as well as gender affirming health care'.

gender affirming health care has levelled interventions. And, as a standard of care, gender affirming health care IS the standard of care for those who wrestle with it.

rambot · 2025-11-25T12:14:58-0600

rjs330 said:
Empathy is what leads schools to allow gender clinics inside of schools.

Actually, you may find that it's folks who think those kids have a right to the care they want.

You claim it's "empathy" but it could just be people who want those kids treated like everyone else. Though I guess that could be empathy if you think that some people should not have the same rights to health care as you.

rjs330 said:
Empathy is what causes people to want to support affirmative care for kids.

1)It could. Empathy is what led me to handle my child the way i did through her "struggle".
2) I mean, you still havent' convinced anyone that affirmative care for kids is "harmful".....

rjs330 said:
Empathy is what can cause people to allow the homeless or drug addicts to do drugs on the streets creating unsafe environments for communities.

1) "Allow" is not the right word to use. "Preserving personal Rights" is closer to what youre talking about.
Forced treatment does not have good outcomes.

rjs330 said:
Empathy in and of itself is good. We need empathy. But we need to be wise with it and make sure our empathy is not allowing actions that are harmful to the person or society.

We also need to make sure we understand those harmful actions in their totality and, dare I say, listen to professionals when it comes to understanding those actions and how to deal with them.

BCP1928 · 2025-11-25T12:40:22-0600

rambot said:
yeah....forcing joining clubs I'm not behind.

I've just never worked in a "traditional" office so I have NO idea what that would be like.

One of the benefits of a blue collar job is that you can tell the prissy twits from HR who think up this kind of thing to stuff it.

RileyG · 2025-11-25T16:40:36-0600

rjs330 said:
This is true. There is no evidence tha people who transition are actually better off after a number of years. The Cass Review proved that.

Also a recent Oxford study showed those who undergo transition are more likely to have more mental health issues, not less.

It saddens me so much. I can only pray constantly for my niece and nephews and all the children in public schools. They don't need this ideology forced upon them. It's flat out abusive.

RileyG · 2025-11-25T16:40:59-0600

rjs330 said:
Ive seen a lot of it including curriculum from the schools. I've seen the books and whats in them. I've read the material. It does NOT belong in the schools. There is no reason for it except to expose children to indoctrination. Kids are not psychologically prepared to deal with that kind of sexual influences.

The left is so determined to introduce kids to this younger and younger. Its unconscionable.

It's pornography. Disgusting. No minor. needs to see it.

RileyG · 2025-11-25T16:42:15-0600

Larniavc said:
It’s not perversion. You are projecting your irrational fears onto harmless drag queens.

From his perspective, drag queens is perversion. There are no irrational fears. Men dressing up as women and acting provocatively? I say that's quite abnormal. It makes a mockery of women, imo.

RileyG · 2025-11-25T16:42:50-0600

A2SG said:
And vice versa, which is why conversion therapy doesn't work.

-- A2SG, no matter how much some people try to force it to.....

No one is saying otherwise. Behavior, is a choice. Sexual orientation and sexual behavior are two different things. That's the difference.

RileyG · 2025-11-25T16:44:56-0600

rjs330 said:
Gender affirming care is expansive. It does not mean that schools are performing surgeries or school nurses hand out hormones. Don't be silly. Affirming a kids gender is more than that.

In Oregon the Dept. Of Education has gender affirming care in their schools.
They have entire documents on how schools are supposed to provide gender affirming care for the students.

Minnesota does the same.

In Seattle the schools allow gender clinics in the schools which do provide hormones to the kids. Can you imagine if schools allowed churches inside the schools to operate all day and hold services during the school day?

Or perhaps a pro-life pregnancy caring center?

Extreme ideologies such as these don't belong in public schools. Impressionable minors don't need to be exposed to it. Let them live their lives. Boys are boys, and girls are girls. 15-20 years ago, we never heard of this! Now it's everywhere! What changed? ugh

The Righterzpen · 2025-11-25T19:28:31-0600

Larniavc said:
What am I look for exactly? I had a brief look but didn’t find anything beyond the normal surgery impacts.

Here's a (couple of) studies to start with: (There's all kinds of information in the Medicare data base!)

Transgender Medicare Beneficiaries and Chronic Conditions: Exploring Fee-for-Service Claims Data - PMC

Purpose: Data on the health and well-being of the transgender population are limited. However, using claims data we can identify transgender Medicare beneficiaries (TMBs) with high confidence. We seek to describe the TMB population and provide ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Disparities in Suicidality by Gender Identity Among Medicare Beneficiaries - PMC

Suicidality is higher for gender minorities than the general population, yet little is known about suicidality in disabled or older adult gender minorities. This study used 2009–2014 Medicare claims to identify people with gender identity–related ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Say it aint so · 2025-11-25T19:34:27-0600

rjs330 said:
Empathy is what leads schools to allow gender clinics inside of schools. Empathy is what causes people to want to support affirmative care for kids.

Empathy is what can cause people to allow the homeless or drug addicts to do drugs on the streets creating unsafe environments for communities.

Empathy in and of itself is good. We need empathy. But we need to be wise with it and make sure our empathy is not allowing actions that are harmful to the person or society.

Now suppose the implementation of those gender affirming actions reduce suicide rates.
If it does, is there more empathic value in that or just get rid of them regardless?

The Righterzpen · 2025-11-25T19:48:20-0600

Say it aint so said:
Now suppose the implementation of those gender affirming actions reduce suicide rates.
If it does, is there more empathic value in that or just get rid of them regardless?

"Gender affirming care" (According to Medicare data) increases suicide stats by double compared to "cis gender" population.
Another stat I saw cited that almost 20% of 10 year post op transgender individuals commit suicide. (40% attempt) I think that may be the HIGHEST suicide rate in any population. (At last it's the highest stat I've ever seen.)

Suicide rates general populations:
(Veterans = 14%)
(Police = .021%)
(Incarcerated in state or federal prisons = 8%)

Disparities in Suicidality by Gender Identity Among Medicare Beneficiaries - PMC

Suicidality is higher for gender minorities than the general population, yet little is known about suicidality in disabled or older adult gender minorities. This study used 2009–2014 Medicare claims to identify people with gender identity–related ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

RileyG · 2025-11-25T20:30:49-0600

Say it aint so said:
Now suppose the implementation of those gender affirming actions reduce suicide rates.
If it does, is there more empathic value in that or just get rid of them regardless?

There's been many cases of trans teens who committed suicide after receiving so-called gender affirming care or socially transitioning or had affirming parents. Something tells me it's not as helpful as some claim.

RileyG · 2025-11-25T20:32:05-0600

The Righterzpen said:
"Gender affirming care" (According to Medicare data) increases suicide stats by double compared to "cis gender" population.
Another stat I saw cited that almost 20% of 10 year post op transgender individuals commit suicide. (40% attempt) I think that may be the HIGHEST suicide rate in any population. (At last it's the highest stat I've ever seen.)

Suicide rates general populations:
(Veterans = 14%)
(Police = .021%)
(Incarcerated in state or federal prisons = 8%)

Disparities in Suicidality by Gender Identity Among Medicare Beneficiaries - PMC

Suicidality is higher for gender minorities than the general population, yet little is known about suicidality in disabled or older adult gender minorities. This study used 2009–2014 Medicare claims to identify people with gender identity–related ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is so sad.

Gender affirming care isn't care. It's mutilation. This is a mental health crisis that needs real answers.

RileyG · 2025-11-25T21:23:00-0600

Maria Billingsley said:
The question is ..... what would Jesus Christ of Nazareth do?

Here is helpful hint:

"For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved."

What did he tell the woman caught in adultery? “Neither do i condemn you, go, and sin no more.”

Compassion, yes. Kindness. Yes. Understanding. Yes. But no tolerance for their sin.

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