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SLOTKIN STUMPED! Senator Admits She's 'Not Aware' of Any 'Illegal' Orders From Trump to Military [WATCH]
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We're all armchair shrinks.
I was hoping Biden would get a competent fitness for duty examination. Kamala should have insisted on it. She might have been president today had she done so. You can hope Trump gets the same. I suspect that won't happen though. For 'reasons'.
Trump has long had a stream of consciousness erratic speech pattern where he flits about and picks up a new thought, then another, and maybe gets back to the first one. It's disjointed but I can almost follow it. Sometimes. If I really try. Different than the Biden thing but at least a standard deviation away from how a normal person converses.
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Out of a million and a half troops, it will probably happen more than once, like Terry Lakin and Michael New, who were two that reached national news. We probably won't even hear about them from official channels, only if they go to social media themselves.
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They were clever enough to precisely say only what is exactly taught to troops in Law of Armed Conflict training. They've got advisory lawyers, too. A charge for what they actually said would look silly to a court-martial.
"We know what you did, but we can't prove you did it."
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But worse: The military justice system takes "command influence" extremely seriously. When I say "extreme," I mean to the point of near absurdity. "Command influence" means nobody in the chain of command can do or say anything, however slight, that might influence the administration of military justice. Nobody, including the president, and they are gosh-darned serious about that. Military discipline depends on it, and military discipline is the only reason the military justice system exists.
Remarks by Obama actually caused military judges to severely restrict possible sentences in two courts-martial that were ongoing at the time he made his remarks. Obama said persons under such accusations should be dishonorably discharged, and as a direct result the judge ordered that they could not receive punitive discharges.
If Trump makes such statements, it would have the same effect in any subsequent courts-martial.
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Sen. Mark Kelly faces Pentagon investigation for making video on refusing ‘unlawful orders’
The Pentagon on Monday said that it was reviewing what it called “serious allegations of misconduct” against Sen. Mark Kelly of Arizona for making a video with five other Democratic lawmakers that urged members of the military to refuse to follow illegal orders.The Pentagon said Kelly, who is a retired U.S. Navy captain, might be recalled to active military duty and face a possible court-martial on the allegations.
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There's a lot of corruption within the military and intelligence services. You can't have people in there who would damage our country and/or pursue their own agendas.
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Cmon, the press office? All I know is Hegseth said it's a formal investigation. If you are that curious call up public relations at 703-571-3343 and let us know what they say.
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Sen. Mark Kelly:
"When I was 22 years old, I commissioned as an Ensign in the United States Navy and swore an oath to the Constitution. I upheld that oath through flight school, multiple deployments on the USS Midway, 39 combat missions in Operation Desert Storm, test pilot school, four space shuttle flights at NASA, and every day since I retired – which I did after my wife Gabby was shot in the head while serving her constituents.
In combat, I had a missile blow up next to my jet and flew through anti-aircraft fire to drop bombs on enemy targets.
At NASA, I launched on a rocket, commanded the space shuttle, and was part of the recovery mission that brought home the bodies of my astronaut classmates who died on Columbia. I did all of this in service to this country that I love and has given me so much.
Secretary Hegseth’s tweet is the first I heard of this. I also saw the President’s posts saying I should be arrested, hanged, and put to death.
If this is meant to intimidate me and other members of Congress from doing our jobs and holding this administration accountable, it won’t work. I’ve given too much to this country to be silenced by bullies who care more about their own power than protecting the Constitution."
"When I was 22 years old, I commissioned as an Ensign in the United States Navy and swore an oath to the Constitution. I upheld that oath through flight school, multiple deployments on the USS Midway, 39 combat missions in Operation Desert Storm, test pilot school, four space shuttle flights at NASA, and every day since I retired – which I did after my wife Gabby was shot in the head while serving her constituents.
In combat, I had a missile blow up next to my jet and flew through anti-aircraft fire to drop bombs on enemy targets.
At NASA, I launched on a rocket, commanded the space shuttle, and was part of the recovery mission that brought home the bodies of my astronaut classmates who died on Columbia. I did all of this in service to this country that I love and has given me so much.
Secretary Hegseth’s tweet is the first I heard of this. I also saw the President’s posts saying I should be arrested, hanged, and put to death.
If this is meant to intimidate me and other members of Congress from doing our jobs and holding this administration accountable, it won’t work. I’ve given too much to this country to be silenced by bullies who care more about their own power than protecting the Constitution."
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Millions of people have done their required duty, many of them highly decorated and honorable people who never attacked the chain of A military career does not give them the right to undermine the chain of command of the elected President of the United States. Sedition has serious consequences. If Mr. Kelly persists he will have his day before a court martial.
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During his first term, Trump had considered recalling retired Adm. William McRaven, the former head of U.S. Special Operations Command, and retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal, former commander of Joint Special Operations Command, back to active duty to face charges under the UCMJ for perceived slights.
Then-Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, talked the president out of it, Esper wrote in a 2022 book. Milley remains a target of the president’s ire and his security clearance and detail were stripped by Hegseth earlier this year.
Then-Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, talked the president out of it, Esper wrote in a 2022 book. Milley remains a target of the president’s ire and his security clearance and detail were stripped by Hegseth earlier this year.
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The POTUS could have responded, "well, of course. All members carry out my legal orders." Instead, he lashed out....
...suggested they committed sedition.....which is a lie.
Fox News Channel legal analyst Andy McCarthy promptly wrote: “There is no insurrection or sedition without the use of force. Disobeying a lawful order is insubordination, not insurrection or sedition. Disobeying an unlawful order is required. That is all.”
Don't get your hopes up.
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