The Lord's Wrath - How will it Happen

keras · Saturday at 1:23 AM

This much prophesied, still to come, Lords Day of vengeance and wrath – will happen at the same time as an attack against Israel. Psalms 7:12-16, Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12 People think there may be a nuclear exchange, but what is more certain is what the prophets say:
Jeremiah 50:25 The Lord opens His armoury and brings forth the weapons of His wrath, for this is His work to be done in the lands of the godless peoples. Deuteronomy 32:34-43
Isaiah 34:5 For My sword appears in heaven, it descends in judgement…….
Psalm 11:4-6 The Lord is in heaven, raining fiery coals onto the wicked. ……
Isaiah 66:15-16 See, the Lord is coming in fire, like a whirlwind. He will judge with fire, His sword will test mankind and many will be slain by Him.
Isaiah 33:10-12 Now I shall arise, says the Lord, I will exalt Myself. You will be as chaff and stubble, a wind like fire will consume you. Whole nations will be heaps of white ash, like thorns cut down and set on fire.
Psalm 144:5-6 Lord, part the heavens. Make lightning flashes far and wide.
Isaiah 30:30 Then the Lord will make His voice heard in majesty...descending in fierce anger with devouring flames of fire amid storms and hail.
Jeremiah 30:23-24 See what a scorching wind has gone out from God, a sweeping whirlwind which whirls around the heads of the wicked. The Lords fierce anger is not to be turned aside until He has fully accomplished His purposes. In Days to come you will understand.
Isaiah 29:5-6 Yet, the horde of Your enemies will crumble into dust, fly away like chaff. Suddenly in an instant punishment will come from the Lord, with storms, thunder, earthquakes and great noise and a flame of devouring fire. 2 Peter 3:7
Isaiah 9:19 The land is scorched by the Lord, the people are like fuel for the fire.
Isaiah 10:17 The Light of Israel will become a fire, its Holy One a flame, which, in one day will burn up and consume His thorns and briars.
Isaiah 30:26-30 On the Day that the Lord saves His people, the sun will shine with seven times its usual brightness and the moon will be as bright as the sun……
See; the Lord comes from afar, His anger blazing and His doom heavy. His lips are charged with wrath and His tongue is a devouring fire. His breath is like a torrent in spate. He sieves out the nations for destruction. Isaiah 63:1-6

What these (and many other) prophecies, seem to be describing is sunspot activity.
Maybe the sun is building up to a huge Coronal Mass Ejection, something we do experience with minor CME’s. They happen very suddenly and unexpectedly, reaching earth within hours and are capable of causing enormous damage and deaths worldwide.
All electrical and communications systems, industry, transport; our modern infrastructure could be destroyed, or at least severely damaged. Armies would be back to 1800’s technology.

A CME explosion of the suns surface, as described in Isaiah 30:26, by the sun flashing 7 times brighter, would be one of unprecedented magnitude and would literally cause all the graphically Prophesied effects. For example; the moon would shine bright red as it reflects this suns explosive flash, plus a thermoluminescent reaction between the metallic oxides of the moon with the superheated Hydrogen mass, also causing our satellites to crash to the earth, like ripe figs falling.

eleos1954 · Saturday at 11:16 AM

2 Thessalonians 2:8

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Freth · Saturday at 12:37 PM

Also, consuming fire:

Deuteronomy 4:24 For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

Deuteronomy 9:3 Understand therefore this day, that the Lord thy God is he which goeth over before thee; as a consuming fire he shall destroy them, and he shall bring them down before thy face: so shalt thou drive them out, and destroy them quickly, as the Lord hath said unto thee.

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

keras · Saturday at 12:44 PM

Freth said:
Also, consuming fire:

Deuteronomy 4:24 For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

Deuteronomy 9:3 Understand therefore this day, that the Lord thy God is he which goeth over before thee; as a consuming fire he shall destroy them, and he shall bring them down before thy face: so shalt thou drive them out, and destroy them quickly, as the Lord hath said unto thee.

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Be aware that the Lord does NOT Return in a consuming fire, but in glory, as described in 1Thess 4:16 and Revelation 19:11-14

He SENDS fire, Psalms 11:4-6, to destroy His enemies in the Holy Land, Zephaniah 1:14-18, and to commence the Prophesied end time events.

Freth · Saturday at 2:29 PM

keras said:
Be aware that the Lord does NOT Return in a consuming fire, but in glory, as described in 1Thess 4:16 and Revelation 19:11-14

He SENDS fire, Psalms 11:4-6, to destroy His enemies in the Holy Land, Zephaniah 1:14-18, and to commence the Prophesied end time events.

"Also, consuming fire." In addition to.

"For our God is a consuming fire." is referring to both His countenance (Exodus 24:17, Revelation 1:16, Revelation 19:11-16) and His wrath (Jeremiah 4:4, Revelation 6:15-17, Revelation 19:21). His countenance is like the sun. A CME isn't necessary. Fire and brimstone from heaven comes after the thousand year reign of Christ (2 Peter 3:7, Revelation 20:7-9).

keras · Sunday at 12:33 AM

Freth said:
"Also, consuming fire." In addition to.

"For our God is a consuming fire." is referring to both His countenance (Exodus 24:17, Revelation 1:16, Revelation 19:11-16) and His wrath (Jeremiah 4:4, Revelation 6:15-17, Revelation 19:21). His countenance is like the sun. A CME isn't necessary. Fire and brimstone from heaven comes after the thousand year reign of Christ (2 Peter 3:7, Revelation 20:7-9).

Isaiah 30:26, specifically mentions the sun as causing all the graphically Prophesied things. A CME is a one day event; the blast carries on into outer space.
The Lords terrible Day of wrath, must be a natural event, so as the ungodly people can continue in their rejection of God.

keras · Monday at 1:57 AM

The Sixth Seal judgement/punishment of the nations:
Revelation 6:12-17...The sun will be darkened and the moon blood red. The leaders of the nations and every person, rich or poor will try to hide themselves, they will call to the mountains and the earth: ‘Hide us from Almighty God and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great Day of their wrath has come and who can stand? Hosea 10:8

Luke 23:29-31 These times are bad, but the time is coming when people will say: ‘Happy are those without children to worry about’. At that time they will call to the mountains; Fall on us, and to the hills; cover us.

Isaiah 2:12-21 The Lord has a Day of doom in store, for all the proud and arrogant and all their idols. For all fortifications and military strength, for the leaders of the nations, all will be brought low and the Lord alone will be exalted on that Day.
When the Lord arises and strikes the world with terror, everyone will try to hide in caves and holes in the ground from the power of His judgement.

2 Peter 3:7 & 12 Look forward to the coming day of the Lord, that Day will set the sky ablaze and flames will envelope the earth.

Ezekiel 21:4-11 O man: Why do you groan so bitterly? Because of what I have heard, is about to take place. Everyone will be terrified, they will wet their pants in fear. The Lord draws His sword of slaughter, sharpened and ready, from its scabbard. The Destroyer will kill both the righteous and wicked alike in the [holy] Land.

Jeremiah 4:23-29 The earth is reeling and in chaos, the land is shaking, the hills rocking to and fro. The Land becomes empty, even the birds have gone and the cities are flattened and the Land desolated. The sky is darkened and to escape the approaching disaster, the people dive for cover and scramble for shelter in the mountains. The Lord’s plan is made known, He will not relent or change it.

Joel 1:15-20 The Day is near, the Day of the Lord – it comes as a mighty destruction from the Almighty. It is already before us, joy and gladness are gone, now the [holy] Land is burnt and desolated, for fire has consumed the towns and everything in the countryside.
Ref: REB. Some verses abridged.

Four times the prophets tell us that in the 24 hour period between the initial flash and the arrival of the superheated mass of the enormous Coronal Mass Ejection the Lord will use on His Day of Wrath, people will be terrified and will scramble for cover. Many other prophecies say how all will be shocked, frightened or paralyzed with fear.
The sky will be darkened because the sun will be obscured by the approaching mass and the moon will burn bright red from the thermoluminiscent reaction between the superheated hydrogen and the aluminium and other oxides of the moon dust. Joel 2:31

The result of this sunstrike will leave the entire Middle East burnt and desolate, Ezekiel 30:1-5, but most of the rest of the world will survive to establish a One World Government and as Isaiah 30:26 says: On the Day He takes action with a CME, that is the Day He will save His faithful Christian people. They will migrate in a great Exodus and live in all of the holy Land, as the Lord originally intended for His people.

BelieveItOarKnot · Monday at 4:58 AM

keras said:
What these (and many other) prophecies, seem to be describing is sunspot activity.

At least you added "seems" which "seems" to be you just guessing, as usual.

Your positions insist on ignoring the unseen aspects of scripture, meaning there is a veritable ARMY of players presented in the scriptures that NONE of us can see with our eyes.

Do you know who this ARMY consists of? Where their KINGDOM is?

Yet, these are invisible. It's on this unseen ground that you should cut your end time mustard and quit with the physical only guesswork.

Your positions have zero accounting for the real enemies of ALL, like the many who likewise guess.

BelieveItOarKnot · Monday at 4:59 AM

eleos1954 said:
2 Thessalonians 2:8

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

I think we can be reasonably assured that Jesus wasn't and isn't a SUNSPOT, don't you?

keras · Monday at 1:26 PM

BelieveItOarKnot said:
Do you know who this ARMY consists of? Where their KINGDOM is?

What is described is not an army of people, but a huge mass, which the Lord will send to literally fulfil all the graphically Prophesied things fo the Lords Day of vengeance and wrath.
2 Thess 2:8, refers to the death of the Anti-Christ 'beast', when Jesus returns.

BelieveItOarKnot · Tuesday at 4:43 AM

keras said:
What is described is not an army of people, but a huge mass, which the Lord will send to literally fulfil all the graphically Prophesied things fo the Lords Day of vengeance and wrath.
2 Thess 2:8, refers to the death of the Anti-Christ 'beast', when Jesus returns.

So the antiChrist is destroyed with a large mass of sunspot activity? Is this where you want to go?

eleos1954 · Tuesday at 12:46 PM

BelieveItOarKnot said:
I think we can be reasonably assured that Jesus wasn't and isn't a SUNSPOT, don't you?

well ... He did appear as a burning bush.

keras · Tuesday at 1:48 PM

BelieveItOarKnot said:
So the antiChrist is destroyed with a large mass of sunspot activity? Is this where you want to go?

I made it clear in #11, that the destruction of the AC, is done by Jesus at His Return.
The Lords Day of fiery wrath is years before the Return and it will depopulate the Middle East, also affecting all the world; setting the scene for a One World Government.

A Coronal Mass Ejection is the only natural event that can literally fulfil the many Prophesies describing that terrible Day.
Why deny it? Many scientists warn about a big CME, something which would dramatically change all the earth.

BelieveItOarKnot · 2025-11-19T04:30:24-0600

eleos1954 said:
well ... He did appear as a burning bush.

I'd suppose the bush was already there. Why not next to the bush I wonder?

Luke 6:44
For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

BelieveItOarKnot · 2025-11-19T04:32:15-0600

keras said:
I made it clear in #11, that the destruction of the AC, is done by Jesus at His Return.

And do you have a guess as to an identity of said AC?

keras said:
The Lords Day of fiery wrath is years before the Return and it will depopulate the Middle East, also affecting all the world; setting the scene for a One World Government.

Unlikely.

keras said:
A Coronal Mass Ejection is the only natural event that can literally fulfil the many Prophesies describing that terrible Day.
Why deny it? Many scientists warn about a big CME, something which would dramatically change all the earth.

The Lord is not a sun spot nor is a coronal mass ejection the Lords Day of wrath

Lost4words · 2025-11-19T04:54:02-0600

God doesnt need the sun to cause issues. He can just command these things to happen and they will.....

The extremely wide of the mark prophesies are because of bad interpretation of scripture..

keras · 2025-11-19T13:49:31-0600

BelieveItOarKnot said:
And do you have a guess as to an identity of said AC?

No. we will know soon enough.

BelieveItOarKnot said:
Unlikely.

As set out in Revelation 6:12-17, then many events, leading up to the glorious Return. in Rev 19:11.

BelieveItOarKnot said:
The Lord is not a sun spot nor is a coronal mass ejection the Lords Day of wrath

A knee jerk reply totally lacking in scriptural or scientific support.

Lost4words said:
God doesnt need the sun to cause issues. He can just command these things to happen and they will.....

God does that, He commands the sun to send out a consuming fire to judge the peoples. Psalms 50:1-6

Lost4words said:
The extremely wide of the mark prophesies are because of bad interpretation of scripture..

Your unintelligible comments and failure to prove what I point out from the Prophets- wrong, is your bad.

Lost4words · 2025-11-19T18:52:22-0600

keras said:
No. we will know soon enough.

As set out in Revelation 6:12-17, then many events, leading up to the glorious Return. in Rev 19:11.

A knee jerk reply totally lacking in scriptural or scientific support.

God does that, He commands the sun to send out a consuming fire to judge the peoples. Psalms 50:1-6

Your unintelligible comments and failure to prove what I point out from the Prophets- wrong, is your bad.

What you write is your very own bad interpretation of scripture. You read into it your own ideas Keras. And then, you dislike it when that is pointed out.

BelieveItOarKnot · 2025-11-20T05:16:39-0600

keras said:
No. we will know soon enough.

I was asking you if you think it's a PERSON, a human being.

keras said:
A knee jerk reply totally lacking in scriptural or scientific support.

But you are trying to make the "day of wrath" nothing more than a scientific calculable event, that being a wildly powerful sunspot or 2.

keras said:
God does that, He commands the sun to send out a consuming fire to judge the peoples. Psalms 50:1-6

Psalm 50:
1 The mighty God, even the Lord, hath spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof.
2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.

Tell me you are not trying to equate God to sunshine please.

keras said:
Your unintelligible comments and failure to prove what I point out from the Prophets- wrong, is your bad.

I merely point out that your depictions have a basic TWO FOLD problem, one being a complete lack of effort on your part to understand and address the unseen spiritual realm and instead focus on a strictly external literal set of fairy tales, followed by a nearly complete lack of understanding the enemies, unseen, the devil and his messengers and focusing just on people.

keras · 2025-11-20T12:25:40-0600

What WILL happen:

The enemies of the Lord gather - Micah 4:11-12, Ezekiel 36:2

They conspire to attack Israel - Psalms 83:1-8, Isaiah 21:2

They prepare their weapons - Psalms 7:12, Ezekiel 7:14

This is the situation today.

At the moment of attack, God will use His Creation, the sun to send fire - Deuteronomy 32:22 & 34-43, Isaiah 30:26 & 30, Psalms 11:4-6, Isaiah 66:15-17, 2 Peter 3:7, Amos 1:1-15 & 2:1-5 , Psalms 50:1-3, Zephaniah 3:8, Revelation 6:12-17

The sun will explode with an extremely bright flash and the moon will reflect bright red - Isaiah 30:26, Joel 2:31, Acts 2:20, Habakkuk 3:4-5

The Lord will make their weapons recoil upon themselves, the Electro-Magnetic Pulse hit will cause them to explode - Psalms 7:13-16, Joel 3:4, Obadiah 15

Then the sun, moon and stars will be obscured by the approaching Coronal Mass Ejection - Psalms 18:11-12, Isaiah 13:9-13, Ezekiel 32:7-8, Amos 8:9

A huge superhot mass of hydrogen plasma approaches the earth – Joel 1:15-20, Malachi 4:1, Zephaniah 1:14-18

Everyone on earth will be shocked and terrified - Jeremiah 6:24-26, Ezekiel 21:5-7a, Isaiah 13:6-8, Revelation 6:15-17

The atmosphere will be pushed aside – Revelation 6:14, 2 Peter 3:10, Isaiah 34:4

The whole earth will be enveloped by fire - Isaiah 66:15, Zeph. 3:8, 2 Peter 3:7

In the Holy Land, only a remnant will survive - Zechariah 13:8-9, Isaiah 6:11-13

He will punish His enemies, the attackers of Israel- Psalms 83, Isaiah 63:1-6, Habakkuk 3:12, Revelation 14 18-20, Isaiah 66:17, Isaiah 29:20-21, Hebrews 10:27

His enemies will become ashes - Malachi 4:3, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jeremiah 49:2, Matthew 3:12b

Millions will die around the world - Psalms 97:3-5, Jeremiah 25:33, Isaiah 13:12

The Lord will protect those who call to Him - Isaiah 43:2, Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21

But most people will take shelter until it passes. Isaiah 2:19, Revelation 6:15

The survivors will form a One World Govt. - Daniel 7:23-24, Revelation 17:12

The Holy Land will be regenerated - Ezekiel 36:8, Joel 2:21-24, Isaiah 35:1-10, Amos 9:13-15, Jeremiah 33:12-14

And the Lord's faithful Christian people will gather there. - Psalms 107, Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 66:18b-21, Revelation 7:9-14

They will become the new nation of Beulah - Isaiah 62:1-5, Ezekiel 36:3-38, Jeremiah 31

They will build a new Temple – Zechariah 6:15, Haggai 2:9, Ezekiel 40 to 48

The attack by a Northern army will be won by the Lord – Ezekiel 38:22, Joel 2:20

The leaders of Beulah will break the Covenant with the Lord and sign a 7 year peace treaty with the leader of the O.W.G. Daniel 9:27, Isaiah 28:14-15

At the midpoint he will break the treaty and conquer Beulah-Daniel 9:27, Zechariah 14:1-2

This commences the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls of the Great Tribulation - Rev 8:2 onward.

Those who kept their faith in God will be taken to a safe place on earth. Daniel 11:32b, Revelation 12:14

3.5 years later, Jesus will Return in His glory, for His Millennial reign - Revelation 19:11-21, Matthew 24:30-31, Zechariah 14:3-4

The Lord has told us His plans and He will not relent or change them - Jeremiah 4:28

There are plenty more prophecies and scriptures to prove this scenario.

Believe it or not it’s up to everyone to decide! Psalms 19:11-12, Isaiah 48:6

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